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05-04-2008, 03:40 AM
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I'm not sure where I stand as far as defense goes. I want to see Brisebois retire (On a good note with such a solid 10 games.. and so I can get some respect as a poster back lol).. but I see him staying.

Maybe moving Bouillon (after such a good year and good playoffs) would be smart. He's on the final year of his contract.. and could probably fetch us something of use if we combined him with some talent. Maybe Bouillon + Prospect for a very good third line centre.

Brisebois as the #7 is fine.. for 700 K.. he doesn't hurt things.. and we know he's a class act professional that's a good leader for the kids.

Next year, I want to see;

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - O'Byrne
Gorges - Valentenko

I just think that Bouillon needs to be moved because he's the most expendable. Gorges has quickly become one of our defenseman for the future and Valentenko & O'Byrne need to play.

If Bouillon is fine with being the #7 (which I doubt he would be), then keep him.
Habs had no drive in the playoffs, it's a team that had courage problems all year and we trade somebody like Bouillon that has it in spade? Bouillion can drop the gloves and can carry the puck. If we have to have a replacement for him I want a serious upgrade, not Gorges.

With Brisebois I don't want to see him but something I noticed in the playoffs of the good plays he did offensively was that we need is an offensive D on the right. I know it's a stretch but someone in the style of Mike Green with the Caps. A real offensive D. We have Streit who's a great powerplay specialist but can hardly play a regular shift on the ice and we have Brisebois who is old and always had those nervous streak in his own zone. I want a genuine offensive D that can support Markov and who in fact is not an embarassement on the ice.

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05-04-2008, 05:34 AM
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Habs had no drive in the playoffs, it's a team that had courage problems all year and we trade somebody like Bouillon that has it in spade? Bouillion can drop the gloves and can carry the puck. If we have to have a replacement for him I want a serious upgrade, not Gorges.

With Brisebois I don't want to see him but something I noticed in the playoffs of the good plays he did offensively was that we need is an offensive D on the right. I know it's a stretch but someone in the style of Mike Green with the Caps. A real offensive D. We have Streit who's a great powerplay specialist but can hardly play a regular shift on the ice and we have Brisebois who is old and always had those nervous streak in his own zone. I want a genuine offensive D that can support Markov and who in fact is not an embarassement on the ice.
Serious upgrade ? really... the guy's a 5th/6th D, who do you want on our bottom pair, Pronger ? Lidstrom ? Phaneuf ? Nieds maybe ?

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05-04-2008, 09:10 AM
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Leaving the free agent talk out of the equation for now, I think the only thing we need Breezer for is the PP. Unfortunately, I think we have limited options there.

Valentenko- play the point for the 'Dogs and will presumably do so in Montreal *eventually*. Even if he does make the team next season (I think he'll do what O'Byrne did this year, start in Hamilton and get called up at some point), I'm not sure Carbo will want a rookie playing the point on the PP. He also shoots L, although the one time I saw the 'Dogs play, IIRC he was playing the right point.

Komi- if we put him on the point, there absolutely has to be someone (Gui?) who will go to the net and try for rebounds, because Komi tends to either shoot at the goalie's crest or else miss the net by a good foot. I noticed there were times this season when Carbo was putting him on for the last :30 or so of power plays, so I wouldn't be shocked to see him on the second unit at some point.

Hamrlik- he shoots left, so not ideal for the right point, but not out of the question I suppose.

Kovalev- I think he's more effective down low

S. Kostitsyn- the usual drawbacks of having a forward, and a 21-year-old forward at that, play the point

Between Valentenko, Subban, and possibly McDonagh, I think we're going to be set on point men for awhile if we can get through the next season or two. Brisebois, or anyone else we signed in free agency, would just be a stopgap measure.

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05-04-2008, 09:16 AM
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I'd be very, very disapointed if Brisebois was back for another year, but I'm fear that the Carbo connection we'll see him back in town.

Dandenault and Grabovski seem like obvious candidates.

As much as I'd rather not see him back, I think his versatility and the fact that he stepped up his game (playing much closer to what was expected of him all year) in the post season will mean that Smolinski will at least be offered another 1 year deal, though at less than 2million... I think he accepts unless someone else blows him away with a better offer, which is unlikely.

and of course, Ryder is definitely history.

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05-04-2008, 09:53 AM
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UFA
Ryder --- Out --- I think he is back for some reason...
Smolinski --- Out
Brisebois --- back for 1 more year - out
Streit ---Back

RFA
Andrei Kostistysn --- i think he'll sign with russia - nope he is back
Grabovski --- resigned - probably going to russia or to another NHL team
Lapierre --- resigned
Gorges --- resigned
O'byrne --- resigned
Halak --- resigned

My view.

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05-04-2008, 11:34 AM
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I'd be very, very disapointed if Brisebois was back for another year, but I'm fear that the Carbo connection we'll see him back in town.
Is there really a problem with him sticking around as the #7 D-Man if he doesn't play much?

If he's as good with the kids as everyone seems to think he is.. it's not a bad thing having him around.

Personally, I think he should retire after having such a great return to the Canadiens (played okay with a good playoffs and earned a lot of respect back from Habs fans).. And like I've said numerous times, the quicker Breezer goes, the more people will like me around here lol.

But if he's good with the kids.. maybe they are slowly easing him into a coaching position. And as the #7 defenseman, they can watch him in a leadership role to see if he can be a good addition to the staff.

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05-04-2008, 11:42 AM
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Smolinski, Brisebois, and probably Dandenault. Maybe Streit, too.

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05-04-2008, 11:49 AM
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UFA
Ryder --- Out
Smolinski --- Out
Brisebois --- back for 1 more year
Streit ---Back

RFA
Andrei Kostistysn --- i think he'll sign with russia
Grabovski --- resigned
Lapierre --- resigned
Gorges --- resigned
O'byrne --- resigned
Halak --- resigned
Andrei will stay.

Grabovski is the one who will sign with a team in Russia.

Halak might be attracted by Russian $$$ too and playing time.

As for Brisebois, he is certainly no worse than Niinimaa, and way cheaper !

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05-04-2008, 11:53 AM
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Ryder, Streit, Smolinski, Dandenault, and Breisbois.

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Well Ryder for sure. Streit is a toss up at this point. I think Gainey would like to have him back, but he's got to set a limit as Streit was obviously less than impressive this off-season.

I doubt that Smolinski and Dandeneault will be back.

A few months ago i would have said no chance that Brisebois will be back, but now you never know. I could see him coming back for one more season.

For the RFA's, i think Grabovski is most likely to bolt back to Russia this summer.

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05-04-2008, 12:08 PM
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These playoffs showed me how useless Streit is. Sure he was good on the PP during the year, but other than that he deserves no raise or anything, he can go elsewhere.

Hopefully Dandenault is gone, and maybe Bouillon, I'd rather give the time to a young defenceman.

Ryder is as good as gone, so is Smoke.
I so agree, his time is up here. Dandy/SMo/Breezeby/ have to go
Boullion maybe as a 7th dman...we need a big tough 6th dman. Hate to see Ryder go but looks like Carbo sealed that decision by not dressing him after any of these 4 straight losses.

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05-04-2008, 12:15 PM
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Goes the other way too, why should we give him 3M$ based on his season and completly forget about his crappy playoff.
Because its his first POs and he's not the only one that played like crap. He also had a back injury.

This goes wayyy beyond just 12 POs games. Can you name me 1 other player in the league that is as versatile as Streit is, and still nets 60+ pts??..The man can play D, F, great on the Point on PP(half of his pts are from there), and can also play on PK.
Name one player that can be compared to him and then i'll see if he's not worth 3M.

Having a poor FIRST playoff experience happens to a lot of players, it certainly doesn't take 1-2M off their value.

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05-04-2008, 12:23 PM
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I have the impression that either Higgins or Latendresse is gonna get traded this summer. In the future, the organisation can't keep those two in the same line-up, as Latendresse is not a 3rd line/4th line player. He needs quality ice time to develop.

Higgins has maybe played his future with the Habs in the last playoffs.

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05-04-2008, 12:37 PM
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Even though I'm a huge Higgins fan, I sometimes feel like this team doesn't have too much space for his talent... it's there (even if it's not at its maximum potential), but does it fit in with the team they're trying to build? Who knows. I feel like he'll be traded, but I'll be really sorry to see him go because I feel like he's still a little raw and can be moulded into a Hab4life.

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05-04-2008, 12:38 PM
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I have the impression that either Higgins or Latendresse is gonna get traded this summer. In the future, the organisation can't keep those two in the same line-up, as Latendresse is not a 3rd line/4th line player. He needs quality ice time to develop.

Higgins has maybe played his future with the Habs in the last playoffs.
Higgins can play on the third line and chip in 50-55 points, Latendresse needs to play on the second line as when he was given the chance to play with a real center like Koivu he was able to produce.

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If we lose both Streit and Brisebois. we have no one to play the right point on our two power play units. While he can hopefully fill one spot with a UFA or via a trade, who would play on the second unit? So I think only one of Streit and Brisebois will be gone.

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05-04-2008, 12:49 PM
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I have the impression that either Higgins or Latendresse is gonna get traded this summer. In the future, the organisation can't keep those two in the same line-up, as Latendresse is not a 3rd line/4th line player. He needs quality ice time to develop.

Higgins has maybe played his future with the Habs in the lastplayoffs.
I think Higgins would be perfect with Chipchura on a 3rd line. He's not a first liner.
Latendresse has great potential and is only 20. A Powerfoward takes a lot more time to develop than any regular foward.
The guy has been in and out of the lineup throughout the year, jumps from one line to the next, gets very limited ice time, and still manages to score 16Goals. There's no way Gainey is letting either player go, unless its for a really big name player but i strongly doubt it.

Latendresse will become very dominant over the next years. Having him and Pacioretty will be very beneficial to us.

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Andrei Kost isnt going to sign in russia

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UFA's I expect will be gone:Ryder, Smolinski,

UFA they might sign: (but I wish they would not) Brisebois - carbo seems to like him.

UFA they should sign (for a reasonable $) Streit

RFA's they have to sign: A Kost, Halak, Gorges

RFA's they should sign (for reasonable $) O'Byrne, Laps, Grabovski

RFA's I really do not care if they sign: Locke

I think Ryder and Smoke are gone for sure. maybe Breezer. maybe Locke too to make room

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Ryder, Dandenault, Brisebois, Smolinski are all goners if you ask me.

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to answer to the OP, i would like to compose a little chant

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Streit was HORRIBLE in the playoffs, he made costly mistakes even during powerplays. I wouldnt care seeing him going somewhere else.

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05-04-2008, 04:39 PM
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The question was not whom SHOULD we trade, sign, etc. but whom do we BELIEVE has played his last game as a Hab?

I think the following players have played their last game as a Hab:
Smolinski
Streit
Ryder
Grabovski
Dandenault
Locke
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Ferland
Milroy
Perezhogin
Newsy Lalonde

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05-04-2008, 04:41 PM
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Hopefully, Ryder, Streit, Dandenault, Brisebois, Higgins or Plekanics (can't have two disappointments) have played their last game for the Habs.
Management love Streit and Plekanics , so they will likely remain.

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