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05-07-2008, 06:34 PM
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Do you think we could go after a UFA or a young D- man in our system which could replace him. Like Emelin if we could actually sign him. (spelling?)

I think if we had that bullet shot with lots of body's in front of the net for the playoffs it would be ideal but no one is left on the market.
Well there is Mathieu Carle but he's not ready yet. I think Gorges could step up and go on if he worked on his passing/shooting in the summer, let Markov take the one timer. Nothing wrong with Hamrlik either. I'm just not willing to pay Streit more than $1.5-2.0 which he probably will get in the open market.

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Streit doesn't deserve 5 millions/year. 3 millions maximum. His playoff play was horrible. I think he is overatted. If a team offers 5 millions, let him go take the picks

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I guess Eklund and I are the only two people who think Streit won't be returning. Btw this actually proves Eklund is full of crap, he chooses 3 teams, two of which are the most obvious teams for overpayment in the NHL, honestly I doubt Montreal re-signs streit for the amount of $ he will want unless he takes a pay cut to be here.

I doubt he will though. I don't see why we would re-sign him, he performed horribly in the playoffs causing turnovers in the offensive zone by practically shooting the puck directly into the guy infront of hims skates ON PURPOSE hahahah.(obviously not on purpose but come on, how many times did he do it? as many times as Markov made defensive zone turn overs? Just about I'd say)

No way in hell we should sign this guy, he'll want 4-5m cause thats what other teams are going to be willing to overpay to get him. I say, let them take him a la Souray.

In Gainey We Trust!

Gainey gave an often injured and pretty 'ordinary' Bouillon 2M$ a year when he was up for UFA. Don't be surprised to se a 4m$ Streit near you.

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05-07-2008, 06:54 PM
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Streit doesn't deserve 5 millions/year. 3 millions maximum. His playoff play was horrible. I think he is overatted. If a team offers 5 millions, let him go take the picks
You realize that he is an UFA, right?

On July 1st, a team can sign him without giving us any compensation. That said, I agree on the 3M$ maximum.

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05-08-2008, 08:06 AM
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You realize that he is an UFA, right?

On July 1st, a team can sign him without giving us any compensation. That said, I agree on the 3M$ maximum.
Oh sorry I tought he was a RFA

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If I'm Gainey, I offer Streit a contract right after the draft. I would like to see Gainey makes the same thing than with Souray last season. Give him a contract (take it or leave it) and if he wants more, let him go somewhere else and spend the money on another D. My offer would be 12M$ for 4 years.

I was thinking about that. With Hamrlik on the 2nd pairing and the great group on prospects on D, I wouldn't mind seeing Streit on D next season. If he wants to be paid like a top 4 d-man, let him play as a top 4 d-man. He's not the best in his own zone but I think that he wouldn't be so bad with Hammer.

So the question is: Do we keep O'Byrne or we trade him considering our depth and the love for him in a lot of teams of the league? I don't want to trade him just for the fun of it. I'm asking if you would put him in a package to bring something we need?

I was thinking about something around O'Byrne, Latendresse and ??? for Simon Gagné. Gagné is injury prone but let's not forget the fact that when healthy, he's a true goalscorer and a good all-around player. For the Flyers, they're one of the team that is high on O'B. He would help their D now, and especially be a good asset for the future. As for Latendresse, he's only 21 years old and with icetime, he can hit the 20 goals as soon as next season. He's still a project but he has the potential to be great. Gagné is making 5,2M$ so the Flyers could use the money to lock Jeff Carter to a long-term deal. Of course, we would have to add pick(s) or/and prospect(s) to this deal but what do you think?

Streit could have his place on D and it wouldn't be so bad since guys like Valentenko, Carle and McDonagh are coming in the next few years. I'm not sure about Fischer, and Subban is a project for me despite the fact that he had a good season this year. We could also add Weber to the list of the potential D of the future.

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I've said numerous times that I don't think Streit will be back and it's not so much that we don't want to sign, it's that he won't want to sign here. A couple of reasons:

1) He has stated several times that he wants and prefers to play defense and not forward. There is no way that Gainey is going to guarantee him a full time job on the blueline for next season (and rightfully so because he is terrible at playing defenseman in regular situations).

2) He will undoubtedly be offered more money some where else. I see Gainey offereing him a small raise but someone is sure to offer him more.

All that being said, I don't really care if he is back or not. He scored a lot of points this season but so did Souray playing with Markov on the point on the PP. He is terribly soft so he's no good playing defense and is an average defensive forward. If he decides to stay and accept being a PP specialist and 4th liner then fine but if he decides to go elsewhere then he can be replaced.
Pretty much my feeling as well. I just don't think Streit is a good fit on the Habs D. It could well be that he will fit in fine as a top 6 defenceman and PP specialist on another team. Maybe it's a question of defensive systems, pairings, or just overall chemistry. But between the top 3 of Markov, Hamrlik, and Komisarek, and the bottom 3 of Bouillon, Gorges, O'Byrne (probably), I just don't see Streit at a UFA salary fitting anywhere. And I think it's out of the question to pay him a UFA salary to be a checking line forward/PP QB/7th defenceman.

Apart from salary, the other issue with re-signing Streit is the term. I think he will want to (and he should) try to cash in now to set up himself up for life. He won't (or shouldn't) settle for a 1 or 2 year deal. But that's pretty much the window for the Habs. Within a year or two, I think it's a safe bet that at least one or two of McDonagh, Fischer, Carle, Valentenko, Subban, Weber will challenge for a job. With the top 3 set, and with O'Byrne slightly ahead of that group, I think roster and cap flexibility will be important.

That's especially because Streit has only shown himself to be a marginally adequate top 6 defenceman at regular strength. That's exactly a spot on the team that you want to keep always up for grabs, or even semi-vacant so that you can go out and get a discount role player like Brisebois to fill a particular need or two in a platoon capacity.

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Streit loves Habs + Habs love Streit = no problem.

He is a multidimensional player and has some negatives. He knows it, everybody knows it. He played for 600'000 until now. He will get more. everybody knows it.

how much more is the question. let's not be influenced by some medias that look for sensation to sell their paper.

Gainey, Carbo and Streit are reasonable and will find the level to satisfy everybody.

at the end Habs are an ascending team. That is good for Streit too.

in Gainey, in Carbo and in Streit we trust.

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05-08-2008, 11:16 AM
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A.K-Saku-S.K
Jagr-Brunnstrom-Kovy
Higgins-Plec-Lats
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Markov-Komi
Hammer-Streit
Mcdonnaugh,Yemlin,or O'Byrne-Streit

That would be a dream team and a half.

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05-08-2008, 11:31 AM
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A.K-Saku-S.K
Jagr-Brunnstrom-Kovy
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Begin-Laps-Tommy.K

Markov-Komi
Hammer-Streit
Mcdonnaugh,Yemlin,or O'Byrne-Streit

That would be a dream team and a half.
Where is Chipchura?

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Markov-Komi
Hammer-Streit
Mcdonnaugh,Yemlin,or O'Byrne-Streit

That would be a dream team and a half.
Arrgh Streit on Defence?? and doubleshifted... ouch.

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Well there is Mathieu Carle but he's not ready yet. I think Gorges could step up and go on if he worked on his passing/shooting in the summer, let Markov take the one timer. Nothing wrong with Hamrlik either. I'm just not willing to pay Streit more than $1.5-2.0 which he probably will get in the open market.
I totally agree, If we pay him that much money we should expect more out of him as a stable d man but I don't think he can do that. It looks like we should have some Cap space to get a UFA. But I would like to get top 6 forward instead of a defencemen.

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