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05-08-2008, 06:06 PM
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If bonus are not reach at the end of the season, they are not counting I believe.
I think they are counted no matter what, but even in your scenario where they get knocked off once they are impossible the important thing is that they count in October.... if you don't get that cap space back till after the trade deadline, it doesn't do you much good.

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05-08-2008, 06:09 PM
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Habs showed Montreal to Shanahan ----> He goes to NY
Habs showed Montreal to Briere ----> He goes to Philly
Habs showed Montreal to Brunstrom ----> He goes Dallas

There is a subtle pattern here people....

Either we are being used to jack up the money in the negociations,
Either Montreal is a very very unattractive and dull town,
Either tha Habs should stop biddin on any free player...

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05-08-2008, 06:13 PM
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I think they are counted no matter what, but even in your scenario where they get knocked off once they are impossible the important thing is that they count in October.... if you don't get that cap space back till after the trade deadline, it doesn't do you much good.
Indeed, they count in October, that's a sure fact.

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Habs showed Montreal to Shanahan ----> He goes to NY
Habs showed Montreal to Briere ----> He goes to Philly
Habs showed Montreal to Brunstrom ----> He goes Dallas

There is a subtle pattern here people....

Either we are being used to jack up the money in the negociations,
Either Montreal is a very very unattractive and dull town,
Either tha Habs should stop biddin on any free player...
You forgot about Elias.

What about... players prefer 20% taxes over 48.5%.


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05-08-2008, 06:14 PM
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Habs showed Montreal to Shanahan ----> He goes to NY
Habs showed Montreal to Briere ----> He goes to Philly
Habs showed Montreal to Brunstrom ----> He goes Dallas

There is a subtle pattern here people....

Either we are being used to jack up the money in the negociations,
Either Montreal is a very very unattractive and dull town,
Either tha Habs should stop biddin on any free player...
First, Shanny's wife decided that he would play with NYR.

Secondly, Briere chose to play for a better team than Montreal. He was wrong (even if Philly won the series).

Thirdly, Montreal couldn't garanty a spot in the top 6. I mean, Gainey prefers to go get a big UFA ala Hossa instead of signing a guy that could bust. If a big UFA is coming, Brunnstrom would have no place in the top 6. More, I prefer to have S.Kost than Brunnstrom on the 2nd line.

So, you cannot say that Montreal is unattractive. I think that Gainey won points with the season he had. I'm sure a good UFA will coming!

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05-08-2008, 06:21 PM
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Chipchura, Stewart, Lapierre etc
funny you mention 3rd liners AT BEST...

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05-08-2008, 06:25 PM
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Hey, atleast they've played on an NHL team, Fabian?

Fabian is said to have tailed off quite a bit in the second half of the season...in a league where they hardly hit.


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OH MY GOD!!!!

We're not the chosen one??? How surprising!!!!!

Did we come close second.....
The Habs are like the Anti-Matrix.

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05-08-2008, 06:37 PM
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Fabian is said to have tailed off quite a bit in the second half of the season...in a league where they hardly hit.
Swedish Brian Savage???

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05-08-2008, 06:47 PM
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We have 7 players that could play in our top 6, no place for him

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good luck to him in Dallas, glad he is going west...

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05-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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What about Gainey???

By the way, your Flyers will be placed back where they belong? Underachivers like allways!

Canadiens 24 Stanley cups!!!!!!
I lost a bet and have to support this pain until the Flyers are eliminated.
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First, Shanny's wife decided that he would play with NYR.

Secondly, Briere chose to play for a better team than Montreal. He was wrong (even if Philly won the series).

Thirdly, Montreal couldn't garanty a spot in the top 6. I mean, Gainey prefers to go get a big UFA ala Hossa instead of signing a guy that could bust. If a big UFA is coming, Brunnstrom would have no place in the top 6. More, I prefer to have S.Kost than Brunnstrom on the 2nd line.

So, you cannot say that Montreal is unattractive. I think that Gainey won points with the season he had. I'm sure a good UFA will coming!
Brunnstrom didn't like Chez Parée and he doesn't like Poutine

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05-08-2008, 07:41 PM
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ohh well. Too bad they couldn't land him. I'm not really sold on this kid anyway. Good luck to him in dallAS anyway

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05-08-2008, 07:42 PM
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now lets just wait both him and Ribeiro suck next year..

Hicks screwing again Georges Gillett..


Liverpool, Ribeiro and now Brunnstrom

I am getting used to it..

I guess the priority of gainey to go get a forward this offseason will transform into.. ''Ben Maxwell is ready for the NHL.''?

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05-08-2008, 08:07 PM
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Brunnstrom didn't like Chez Parée and he doesn't like Poutine


He will be boo'ed when he plays here, then.

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05-08-2008, 08:13 PM
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As i said at the very start of this thread.... front runner is montreal = he is going somehwere else

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05-08-2008, 11:23 PM
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What about... players prefer 20% taxes over 48.5%.
Point and match.

Seriously, the naivety here is absurd. I'm sorry, but if my option is (as Briere) an annual take-home, post taxes of $4,120,000 or $6,400,000 you can definitely forget who the hell I cheered for as a fan.

I love Montreal as much as the next fan, but 2 freaking million dollars love them? I think not.

I make life decisions with regards to my own life that hinge on a much smaller percentage of my total pay and I am sure to anyone I explained it to, they would see it exactly as I do. Throw in the emotion of a hockey team and suddenly it becomes inexplicable to people.

If I was an elite NHLer, I would definitely sign in Dallas, Florida or some low tax state. Anyone who doesn't can only justify it as a better specific opportunity that will lead to future earnings.

Money isn't everything, but frankly, neither is playing for your childhood favorite team.

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05-08-2008, 11:27 PM
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I hoped we signed him although he seems to be a bust in the making... seriously, even his youtubes are pretty cheezy.

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I hoped we signed him although he seems to be a bust in the making... seriously, even his youtubes are pretty cheezy.
Bah, people are absurd on this too.

First he's the next Alfie because the media said so sight unseen.

Now he's a bust in the waiting, because the media said so sight unseen.

People need to stop making vast pronunciations sight unseen and either see them themselves or not make assumptions until they have. It's the same as when people make these wild assumptions about our junior/AHL prospects when odds are they have never even seen them play.

Dare I say, remember Price? I saw him once before the draft, that U18 game he lost and was pissed and mad at the time he was picked. I freaked.

I also learned a lesson.

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05-08-2008, 11:41 PM
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with all that noise around Brunnstrom i m asking my self why no team have interest for Tony Martensson !

Martensson : 2007-08 Linkoping HC SEL 55 17 50 67 36
Brunnstrom : 2007-08 Farjestads SEL 54 9 28 37 16

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with all that noise around Brunnstrom i m asking my self why no team have interest for Tony Martensson !

Martensson : 2007-08 Linkoping HC SEL 55 17 50 67 36
Brunnstrom : 2007-08 Farjestads SEL 54 9 28 37 16
He's 28 years old and small with no likely improvement (based solely on age, admittedly)? Scouts look at more than stats.

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6' 195 pound he s bigger than Koivu and many other .

he was the leader in Elitserien Most Points 07/08 i heard that he sign with Ak Bars Kazan

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Point and match.

Seriously, the naivety here is absurd. I'm sorry, but if my option is (as Briere) an annual take-home, post taxes of $4,120,000 or $6,400,000 you can definitely forget who the hell I cheered for as a fan.

I love Montreal as much as the next fan, but 2 freaking million dollars love them? I think not.

I make life decisions with regards to my own life that hinge on a much smaller percentage of my total pay and I am sure to anyone I explained it to, they would see it exactly as I do. Throw in the emotion of a hockey team and suddenly it becomes inexplicable to people.

If I was an elite NHLer, I would definitely sign in Dallas, Florida or some low tax state. Anyone who doesn't can only justify it as a better specific opportunity that will lead to future earnings.

Money isn't everything, but frankly, neither is playing for your childhood favorite team.
Play for the Habs for 4 million or some other team for 6 million? God, I wouldn't even think twice: Habs! If I can't be happy with 4 million dollars, I aint gonna be happy with 6 million. After a certain point the amount of money you have ceases to matter. In fact there are "quality of life" studies suggesting that beyond a certain income that money does not significantly influence well-being/happiness (i.e., those who earned over 100,000 a year did not report being any happier than those who earned 50,000 a year). So give me 4 million to play for the Habs or even 8 million to play elsewhere and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind who I play for. I mean, how could you pass that up?

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Habs showed Montreal to Shanahan ----> He goes to NY
Habs showed Montreal to Briere ----> He goes to Philly
Habs showed Montreal to Brunstrom ----> He goes Dallas

There is a subtle pattern here people....

Either we are being used to jack up the money in the negociations,
Either Montreal is a very very unattractive and dull town,
Either tha Habs should stop biddin on any free player...
I think the problem is Bob doesn't show them a good time, we should get SexyChick87 to take the players drinking on rooftops. Who wouldn't sign here?

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Bah, people are absurd on this too.

First he's the next Alfie because the media said so sight unseen.

Now he's a bust in the waiting, because the media said so sight unseen.

People need to stop making vast pronunciations sight unseen and either see them themselves or not make assumptions until they have. It's the same as when people make these wild assumptions about our junior/AHL prospects when odds are they have never even seen them play.

Dare I say, remember Price? I saw him once before the draft, that U18 game he lost and was pissed and mad at the time he was picked. I freaked.

I also learned a lesson.
Please find one single post myslef that said he'd be either a star or a bust before this one.....

From what I've seen, this guy has average skill for a guy who's already older than most of our graduated prospects.

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Play for the Habs for 4 million or some other team for 6 million? God, I wouldn't even think twice: Habs! If I can't be happy with 4 million dollars, I aint gonna be happy with 6 million. After a certain point the amount of money you have ceases to matter. In fact there are "quality of life" studies suggesting that beyond a certain income that money does not significantly influence well-being/happiness (i.e., those who earned over 100,000 a year did not report being any happier than those who earned 50,000 a year). So give me 4 million to play for the Habs or even 8 million to play elsewhere and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind who I play for. I mean, how could you pass that up?
Frankly, I call BS

That's easy to say as a fan on a message board.

NHL careers last only so many years and he will never make this kind of money again in his life. Those studies you're talking about are people who make that predictably over their entire career. Pro sports is a 5-10 year sprint, after which your earnings go down significantly and never adjust for inflation over your life.

Anyone here can say what they want, but there are only three reasons any real person faced with this situations will consider: family concerns (geography), income and effect on career.

Montreal will always lose income.

Thus, our only hope is effect on career and occasionally geography.

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Please find one single post myslef that said he'd be either a star or a bust before this one.....

From what I've seen, this guy has average skill for a guy who's already older than most of our graduated prospects.
I was talking in a generality, I admit, but seriously, what have you seen? If you're a frequent watcher of the SEL, I apologize and retract everything I said. If not, you're only proving my point.

Your post admits a couple YouTubes, thus my comment. You cannot judge a player based on a YouTube clip or even a single game.

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