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05-15-2008, 08:47 AM
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Who are the biggest Under-Achiever's?

In your opinion, which players have been the biggest under-achiever's for the NY Rangers in recent history (last 15 years or so)

I'm talking stud Free Agents, High Draft picks, Big named trades.. players we thought SHOULD and WILL light it up...players you expected to do very very well but just failed.

Kovalev is one for me, I always thought he never really made it here even though he played out of his skin during the 94' Cup run.

From this season I really thought Prucha was going to bounce back and score 25-30 goals but thats not really being a stud now is it.

Anybody else?

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I'll get Jessiman out of the way off the bat.

Although to his credit, he is making strides to become better.

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Valeri Kamensky immediatley springs to mind. Actually, looking at the past 10 years theres probably a laundry list full of names that could fit....

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Quintal
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I picked those two because their play magically improved when they left.

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Lundmark, and Brendl

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I picked those two because their play magically improved when they left.
I don't think you thought they were going to be studs though?

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Going back more than 15 years, the easy answer is Bobby Carpenter. We couldve gotten such a better asset for what we traded away.

Nedved sucked for as long as he was here, sans one month where the 'czech line' had a few points.

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Agree with a lot of the names thrown out already, especially Kovalev.

Here's another: Nicklas Sundstrom. I had such high hopes for him, and he just never reached the level that I thought he would.

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I don't think you thought they were going to be studs though?
Not studs, but decent (if overpaid) players is what I expected.

I thought both played like the way I expected them to play when they moved on to Montreal and Dallas (as I remember it). I'd look it up on hockeydb but I don't think either of them deserve the effort.

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Come to think of it it was really the entire Rangers organization from 97-2004.

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DING! DING! DING! We have a WINNAH!

I'll add Savard while he was with us, too.

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DING! DING! DING! We have a WINNAH!

I'll add Savard while he was with us, too.
He was 23 when we traded him.

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He was 23 when we traded him.
True, but if I remember correctly, he was pretty well hyped.

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True, but if I remember correctly, he was pretty well hyped.
And rightfully so from what we know now. But I see your point.

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I always like Savard as a NYR, but from what I remember the knock on him was his size and maybe his cocky attitude?

Pretty sure he was traded before the new rules which I'm sure have helped his game quite a bit.

So had we held on to him, maybe no Gomez?? Meh, hindsight is 20/20.

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I picked those two because their play magically improved when they left.
improved? not by much!

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True, but if I remember correctly, he was pretty well hyped.
Yeah and he wasnt a bust at all, he put up some points while playing a secondary role at age 23, not even close to being an underachiever at that age, especially when you consider the team we had then.

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Yeah and he wasnt a bust at all, he put up some points while playing a secondary role at age 23, not even close to being an underachiever at that age, especially when you consider the team we had then.
Yes, I don't think its fair to hold that against Savard. that was all management.

Eric Lindros anyone? I don't know about most of you guys but I really thought from what I was fed by the media that he was over his concussions and would be the Lindros of old when he dominated the league... did anyone else feel this way?

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Yes, I don't think its fair to hold that against Savard. that was all management.

Eric Lindros anyone? I don't know about most of you guys but I really thought from what I was fed by the media that he was over his concussions and would be the Lindros of old when he dominated the league... did anyone else feel this way?
Who complimented Lindros on this team? Leetch as he was aging? Headcase Fleury? Mike York?

I'm not a huge Lindros fan while he was here but he did try, with little or no help around him.

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Come to think of it it was really the entire Rangers organization from 97-2004.
sometimes I go back and look at those lineups, holy **** were they god awful, can't believe that went on for so long. lol.

you know whats fun, go back and look at the very last pages on the board, its def. entertaining. anybody else do this?

but anyway, Mike York for me.

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sometimes I go back and look at those lineups, holy **** were they god awful, can't believe that went on for so long. lol.

you know whats fun, go back and look at the very last pages on the board, its def. entertaining. anybody else do this?
but anyway, Mike York for me.
i do this and it is kind of entertaining, it is also kind of sad though as I remember how god awful we were.

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Who complimented Lindros on this team? Leetch as he was aging? Headcase Fleury? Mike York?

I'm not a huge Lindros fan while he was here but he did try, with little or no help around him.
You also never get over concussions.

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You also never get over concussions.
Well, thats the issue I take with Sather for going after him in the first place.

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Fleury was a horrible signing!

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Well, thats the issue I take with Sather for going after him in the first place.
Slats was a great admirer of Lindros..you can see this back to the Canada cup days when both of them were involved (not with each other). It was a reclamation project that Slats though just might work.....it didn't.
I had the DVD of that and they both being interviewed and its a mutual admiration society.

Ditto on Fleury.

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