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05-15-2008, 10:54 AM
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best all time ranger left wing

i was just looking at a thread in the history of hockey forum about all time frachise line-ups. got me to thinking. for all positions, the rangers have multiple undeniable greats who spent a significant portion of their career in new york:

center - mess, ratelle ...
right wing - bill cook, gilbert, bathgate ...
defence - leetch, park, howell ...
goalie - richter, giacomin ...

but when i think of left wing, i think of really good players (hadfield, graves, maloney, bun cook, camille henry) but no real greats.

am i missing someone? who's the greatest left winger in ranger history?

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05-15-2008, 11:01 AM
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Vickers and Maloney deserve a mention

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05-15-2008, 11:09 AM
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As far as goalies, the Gump was second only to Richter. Proved his greatness when traded to Montreal for Jacques Plante and won four Cups. He was Henke before Hank arrived

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but really hadfield...

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Hadfield or Vickers.

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Not that I ever saw him play with the Rangers but Dean Prentice probably deserves a mention also.

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i was just looking at a thread in the history of hockey forum about all time frachise line-ups. got me to thinking. for all positions, the rangers have multiple undeniable greats who spent a significant portion of their career in new york:

center - mess, ratelle ...
right wing - bill cook, gilbert, bathgate ...
defence - leetch, park, howell ...
goalie - richter, giacomin ...

but when i think of left wing, i think of really good players (hadfield, graves, maloney, bun cook, camille henry) but no real greats.

am i missing someone? who's the greatest left winger in ranger history?
I appreciate the old timers too, but how do you not have Jagr at RW? Multiple Records = shattered

As for Left wing - Don Maloney always a fave also Pat Hickey

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I appreciate the old timers too, but how do you not have Jagr at RW? Multiple Records = shattered
Come on, you really want to say that Jagr has been a better Ranger than Gilbert?

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Jagr has been here since 04'
I think he has to be included.

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looking at the HHOF page, it appears that the only left wingers to make it to the hall of fame after playing the majority of their career with the rangers were bun cook and joseph patrick.

funny for an original 6 team to have such a dearth of elite talent at one position - all due respect to don maloney or vic hadfield, but their not exactly messier or gilbert

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Come on, you really want to say that Jagr has been a better Ranger than Gilbert?

If he spent more time here I would...but unfortunately he came here later in his career.

Back the LW...Graves is my choice.

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I posted in that thread with this lineup:

Hextall-Messier-Gilbert
Leeth-Park
Richter

IMO, Hetall is the greatest LW of all time for the Rangers. Hadfield and Graves are a bit behind.

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05-15-2008, 03:46 PM
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Hadfield is easily the best I've ever seen.

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Hadfield is easily the best I've ever seen.
Hadfield scores number 50!

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i was just looking at a thread in the history of hockey forum about all time frachise line-ups. got me to thinking. for all positions, the rangers have multiple undeniable greats who spent a significant portion of their career in new york:

center - mess, ratelle ...
right wing - bill cook, gilbert, bathgate ...
defence - leetch, park, howell ...
goalie - richter, giacomin ...

but when i think of left wing, i think of really good players (hadfield, graves, maloney, bun cook, camille henry) but no real greats.

am i missing someone? who's the greatest left winger in ranger history?
Walt Tkaczuk has to be added to the list of centers. Rangers 6th all time points.

Vickers (586 pts) and Hadfield (572 pts) are right there together as greatest Rangers left wingers.

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Honestly, it is a crime that Ratelle, Howell, Greschner, Cook, Bathgate, Tkaczuk, Hadfield, Vickers don't have their numbers retired or honored in some way with a banner.

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Wait, we're talking about the Kitchener Rangers, right?

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Come on, you really want to say that Jagr has been a better Ranger than Gilbert?
Hey Rod is a legend and has been and still is a fixture at the garden and a tremendous ambassador of sorts between the old timers and the present day fans. And he was a great Hockey player. But Jaromir Jagr is one of the greatest to ever play the game period. And he owns some impressive records as a RW for the NY Rangers.


If you were the coach, who would you put on the 1st line?

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Hey Rod is a legend and has been and still is a fixture at the garden and a tremendous ambassador of sorts between the old timers and the present day fans. And he was a great Hockey player. But Jaromir Jagr is one of the greatest to ever play the game period. And he owns some impressive records as a RW for the NY Rangers.


If you were the coach, who would you put on the 1st line?
The Gilbert of the Rangers vs. the Jagr of the Rangers? Gilbert.

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Since nobody said it yet.

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The Gilbert of the Rangers vs. the Jagr of the Rangers? Gilbert.
Because of age at the time?

What if it was simply Rods best year vs Jagr '06?

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Because of age at the time?

What if it was simply Rods best year vs Jagr '06?
Age and the fact that Rod was a better Ranger. Jagr is a better player. Gilbert is the Ranger better Ranger.

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Gilbert is the greatest Rangers forward ever, period.

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Gilbert is the greatest Rangers forward ever, period.
In terms of career, yes.

In terms of short term, no.

Jagr, Gretzky and Messier were all better Rangers forwards short term. Ratelle was Gilbert's equal for the time he was here. I'd actually place him a notch higher than Gilbert.

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