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05-19-2008, 07:43 PM
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I dont know about you guys, but Gaborik looks pretty good on a Rangers jersey. Sanguinetti or Anisimov, Dawes, 1st. You HAVE to make this move. Gomez-Gaborik line would be magical.

Here is my lineup with Gaborik:

Straka-Dubinsky-Jagr
Avery-Gomez-Gaborik
Callahan-Drury-Korpikoski
Byers-Betts-Orr/Hollweg

Staal-Rozsival
Tyutin-Orpik
Girardi-Backman

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Valiquette

This team could go far.


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05-19-2008, 07:45 PM
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Rolston - Dubinsky - Jagr
Avery - Gomez - Hossa
Korpikoski - Drury - Afinogenov
Callahan - Betts - Byers/Orr

Staal - Orpik
Liles - Girardi
Tyutin - Mara

Lundqvist

Is something like that feasible? Without going over the cap, and without giving up Cherepanov, Anisimov, and Sanguinetti?

Rolston, Jagr, and Afinogenov could potentially only be under contract for one year.

Only Avery, Hossa, Orpik and Liles signed longer term...

?

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05-19-2008, 07:51 PM
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I dont know about you guys, but Gaborik looks pretty good on a Rangers jersey. Sanguinetti or Anisimov, Dawes, 1st. You HAVE to make this move. Gomez-Gaborik line would be magical.
Would Minny do it?

Gomez - Gaborik would be unreal.

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Rolston - Dubinsky - Jagr
Avery - Gomez - Hossa
Korpikoski - Drury - Afinogenov
Callahan - Betts - Byers/Orr

Staal - Orpik
Liles - Girardi
Tyutin - Mara

Lundqvist

Is something like that feasible? Without going over the cap, and without giving up Cherepanov, Anisimov, and Sanguinetti?

Rolston, Jagr, and Afinogenov could potentially only be under contract for one year.

Only Avery, Hossa, Orpik and Liles signed longer term...

?
That looks near impossible cap wise.

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05-19-2008, 07:54 PM
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That looks near impossible cap wise.
Everything to me seems near impossible cap wise.

Those Gomez/Drury contracts are really handcuffing us right now.

Sather is going to have to get real creative WITHOUT giving up Cherepanov, Anisimov, and Sanguinetti.

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Would Minny do it?

Gomez - Gaborik would be unreal.
I really dont know. This is an Eklund rumor so odds are its wrong, but I was just saying that this is a deal you cant pass up.


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I really dont know. This is an Eklund rumor so odds are its wrong, but I was just saying that this is a deal you can pass up.
I don't think anyone would pass it up.

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But, if i had a choice, i would rather trade for Kovalchuk.

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But, if i had a choice, i would rather trade for Kovalchuk.
Yes, but you will have to give up a ton more for Kovalchuk, for obvious reasons.

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Yes, but you will have to give up a ton more for Kovalchuk, for obvious reasons.
Of course.

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05-19-2008, 08:31 PM
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I dont know about you guys, but Gaborik looks pretty good on a Rangers jersey. Sanguinetti or Anisimov, Dawes, 1st. You HAVE to make this move. Gomez-Gaborik line would be magical.

Here is my lineup with Gaborik:

Straka-Dubinsky-Jagr
Avery-Gomez-Gaborik
Callahan-Drury-Korpikoski
Byers-Betts-Orr/Hollweg

Staal-Rozsival
Tyutin-Orpik
Girardi-Backman

Lundqvist
Valiquette

This team could go far.
If we trade for Gaborik, you can bet your ass Staal or Dubinsky is going back the other way. They aren't trading their franchise winger for a bunch of "could / possibly / maybes."

A side note, everyone said a Gomez - Jagr line would be magical as well. We see how that turned out.

Gaborik would be a great player to have, but we're going to give up a lot to get him. I think we might be able to dig up some scoring elsewhere.

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Everything to me seems near impossible cap wise.

Those Gomez/Drury contracts are really handcuffing us right now.

Sather is going to have to get real creative WITHOUT giving up Cherepanov, Anisimov, and Sanguinetti.
True, we could use the extra 4 mil in cap we'd have if Gomez and Drury were assigned to appropriate contracts. But committing cap space to Jagr as well isn't helping things, IMO.

Here's to hoping Slats can pull something out of thin air.

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05-19-2008, 08:49 PM
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A third line of:

Korpikoski - Drury - Afinogenov

Would be pretty unreal.

Thats the kind of scoring depth and speed that would be great to have.

Again, if Afinogenov came relatively cheep, why not?

Only thing is they would expect a lot for him. I'm not sure i would be prepared to trade away who it would take to get him.

I'm not trading Cherepanov or Anisimov for ANYONE... EXCEPT Kovalchuk, the second best goal scorer in the league (behind only Ovechkin). And that is it.

Callahan, Prucha, 2008 3rd? I don't know. I wouldn't give any of our top prospects.
Are you serious? Theres probably about 50 players Id trade either one of them for.

Also, Callahan, Prucha, and a pick would net you absolutely nothing of value.

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05-19-2008, 09:12 PM
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hows this for a rumor fix

keep the Pru----Dubi---JJ line(since JJ looks like he'll stay 1 more yr)
Find 1 UFA winger to play w/ Gomez and Dawes
korpedo----drury-----Sjostrom(solid playoff 3rd line showing)
byers-------Betts----Callahan

Staal----Redden(for 2yrs @ 5.8 mill per
Tyutin---Girardi
Orpik/commodore-----Potter/M.Sauer

Package Hollwegg and Backman for a 2nd rounder and get another sleeper

Resign Avery only if its a 1 or 2 yr deal at his prev asking price of 2.9 mill(*a 1 mill raise for a 3rd liner who couldn't score w/o Jagr)


I think the team has a little bit of youth...a little bit of size and little bit of new faces w/ blazing speed.

for alternates...you still have Orr, anisimov and G.Moore

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Are you serious? Theres probably about 50 players Id trade either one of them for.

Also, Callahan, Prucha, and a pick would net you absolutely nothing of value.
Yeah, I'm serious.

I don't trade my top offensive prospects for anyone other then an elite offensive player.

How many 50 goal scorers do you think are in the league?

Iginla, Kovalchuk, and Ovechkin...and typically Heatley.

And guess what? The only one that hits free agency any time soon is Kovalchuk.

Also... since when is Afinogenov so valuable? There is a reason Buffalo is rumored to be shopping him by the draft.

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I'm intrigued by Afinogenov. How would he fit next to Gomez? I'm not really worried if he plays defense because Renney can get anyone to play defense. What would the sabres be looking to get for him in a trade. He is only making 3.3 milnext year so if he doesnt work out we can trade him for whatever at the trading deadline or just let him walk.

Would Backman+3rd rounder get it done?

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05-19-2008, 09:28 PM
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well....if dubinsky is what it takes to get gaborik, i dont think the rangers can sign jagr........without dubinsky jagr doesnt have a center to play with which would turn out badly, i would rather try to sign hossa possibly or spend on defence.....

dubinsky, bourret, callahan, 1st 08
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is this lineup possible at all?


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well....if dubinsky is what it takes to get gaborik, i dont think the rangers can sign jagr........without dubinsky jagr doesnt have a center to play with which would turn out badly, i would rather try to sign hossa possibly or spend on defence.....

dubinsky, bourret, callahan, 1st 08
gaborik

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is this lineup possible at all?
No...... you've traded Dubi and then put him on the 2nd line

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No...... you've traded Dubi and then put him on the 2nd line
thanx...fixed it

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rather have cally than afinagonov
Seconded. I don't want Afinigenov anywhere near a Ranger sweater unless the Sabres are in town.

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Seconded. I don't want Afinigenov anywhere near a Ranger sweater unless the Sabres are in town.
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Callahan will never score as much as Afinogenov.

Afinogenov may have his issues, but Callahan will never be close to his talent level.

Callahan is vastly overrated by Rangers fans.

I like him too, he is a nice fringe 3rd line player. He REALLY is a 4th line player on a championship team.

He doesn't produce nearly enough to even be a third line player.

But he does fore check hard, and he can kill penalties...

Sounds an awful lot like a 4th line player.

Afinogenov is good for at least 20 goals per season on average, although he is inconsistent. Sounds an awful lot like a 3rd line player.

So if you trade Cally for Afinogenov, you are trading a good 4th liner for a good third liner, whose contract won't hand cuff you.

Sounds like a good deal for us.

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Callahan will never score as much as Afinogenov.

Afinogenov may have his issues, but Callahan will never be close to his talent level.

Callahan is vastly overrated by Rangers fans.

I like him too, he is a nice fringe 3rd line player. He REALLY is a 4th line player on a championship team.

He doesn't produce nearly enough to even be a third line player.

But he does fore check hard, and he can kill penalties...

Sounds an awful lot like a 4th line player.

Afinogenov is good for at least 20 goals per season on average, although he is inconsistent. Sounds an awful lot like a 3rd line player.

So if you trade Cally for Afinogenov, you are trading a good 4th liner for a good third liner, whose contract won't hand cuff you.

Sounds like a good deal for us.

callahan for afenigenov wouldnt happen....not enough....and i still wouldnt do it because cally is a TEAM PLAYER and max isnt

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Callahan will never score as much as Afinogenov.

Afinogenov may have his issues, but Callahan will never be close to his talent level.

Callahan is vastly overrated by Rangers fans.

I like him too, he is a nice fringe 3rd line player. He REALLY is a 4th line player on a championship team.

He doesn't produce nearly enough to even be a third line player.

But he does fore check hard, and he can kill penalties...

Sounds an awful lot like a 4th line player.

Afinogenov is good for at least 20 goals per season on average, although he is inconsistent. Sounds an awful lot like a 3rd line player.

So if you trade Cally for Afinogenov, you are trading a good 4th liner for a good third liner, whose contract won't hand cuff you.

Sounds like a good deal for us.
We have plenty of third liners, we don't need any more let alone one that will be making 3M+.

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callahan for afenigenov wouldnt happen....not enough....and i still wouldnt do it because cally is a TEAM PLAYER and max isnt
It could happen because of the sdalary going one way, but count me out on the principle. I think Callahan has a fairly high ceiling and could really blossom.

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well....if dubinsky is what it takes to get gaborik, i dont think the rangers can sign jagr........without dubinsky jagr doesnt have a center to play with which would turn out badly, i would rather try to sign hossa possibly or spend on defence.....

dubinsky, bourret, callahan, 1st 08
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is this lineup possible at all?
No. You have 20 mil+ tied up in the first line alone. Not to mention we need one of Stuart/Orpik, not both. That leaves 25 mil at the most to put up two more lines, our entire defensive corps and our 6.8mil goalie plus his backup.

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