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05-19-2008, 04:12 PM
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Canucks/Thrashers proposal

Canucks get: Erik Christensen
Thrashers get: Lukas Krajicek

Thrashers seem to have some depth amongst their centers, with Little, White, Esposito in the works.

Krajicek gives you guys a top 4 dman, who is a great skater and an offensive dman with a good outlet pass and a puck carrier. He is signed for 1 more year at 1.1 million.

If necessary we can add a mid-round pick and take back Ken Klee's salary.

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I don't think the Thrashers are going to move Christensen. He was just developing some chemistry with Kozlov before he got injured, and I'd much rather move White or Slater.

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Canucks get: Erik Christensen
Thrashers get: Lukas Krajicek

Thrashers seem to have some depth amongst their centers, with Little, White, Esposito in the works.

Krajicek gives you guys a top 4 dman, who is a great skater and an offensive dman with a good outlet pass and a puck carrier. He is signed for 1 more year at 1.1 million.

If necessary we can add a mid-round pick and take back Ken Klee's salary.
I don't think he has quite proven that yet... And Christensen is sadly our best rostered C at the moment (And Waddell obviously thinks highly of him). Agree with btn though, Slater or White is certainly a possibility.

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Thrashers seem to have some depth amongst their centers
I really, really wish that were true.

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Canucks get: Erik Christensen
Thrashers get: Lukas Krajicek

Thrashers seem to have some depth amongst their centers, with Little, White, Esposito in the works.

Krajicek gives you guys a top 4 dman, who is a great skater and an offensive dman with a good outlet pass and a puck carrier. He is signed for 1 more year at 1.1 million.

If necessary we can add a mid-round pick and take back Ken Klee's salary.
Krajicek wasn't a top 4 on a non-playoff Canucks squad last season. In fact, it appears he ranked 6th on the coach's depth chart.

TOI per game
1 23:46 Ohlund
2 23:38 Salo
3 23:23 Bieksa
4 23:11 Mitchell
5 21:20 Edler
6 18:10 Krajicek

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Not a chance in hell.

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Krajicek wasn't a top 4 on a non-playoff Canucks squad last season. In fact, it appears he ranked 6th on the coach's depth chart.

TOI per game
1 23:46 Ohlund
2 23:38 Salo
3 23:23 Bieksa
4 23:11 Mitchell
5 21:20 Edler
6 18:10 Krajicek
considering he was injured most of the year because of tripping on a curb, I wouldn't put to much stock on that chart.

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considering he was injured most of the year because of tripping on a curb, I wouldn't put to much stock on that chart.
Bieksa was injured for much longer.

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considering he was injured most of the year because of tripping on a curb, I wouldn't put to much stock on that chart.
I think you have your logic backwards. The Canucks D corps was never completely healthy the whole year--under those circumstances you'd expect Kraijek to receive more minutes NOT less.

Even with his curb-related injuries he played half a season--and in that half a season he ranked 6th in ice time among Canuck's defensemen.

Sorry if you don't like it, but that's what the data shows.

Updated with Games Played listed after each player's name.

2007-08
TOI per game
1 23:46 Ohlund 53
2 23:38 Salo 63
3 23:23 Bieksa 34
4 23:11 Mitchell 72
5 21:20 Edler 75
6 18:10 Krajicek 39
7 17:20 Miller 57
8 14:01 Weaver 55
9 12:52 Bourdon 27


Guess what, if we go back another season and look at 2006-07 Krajicek ranks--you guessed it--6th again.

1 24:47 Ohlund 77
2 24:16 Bieksa 81
3 22:12 Mitchell 62
4 21:27 Salo 67
5 20:15 Sopel 64
6 18:30 Krajicek 78
7 14:05 R. Fitzpatrick 58

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Bieksa was injured for much longer.
Bieksa played 5 less games


39/34

and he had a legit injury......lol

Krajicek slipped on a curb while going for dinner.



edit:..i see the poster above me just put the games played up

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Because of the depth of the Canucks defense, even despite their injuries, he was a
5th dman. Edler was listed as 6-7 dman before the season but ended up playing more because of injuries. Krajicek had two injury stints a twisted ankle 8-10 games and then a seperated shoulder 30+ that kept him out. On the Thrashers roster he would easily be a top 4 dman, offensively only Enstrom would be better and he is easily the best skater of all the Thrashers dman, he isn't the strongest or most physical defender, thus he needs to play with someone like Exelby.

The big reason the Canucks were not a playoff team is due to injuries on defense and lack of scoring up front.

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Because of the depth of the Canucks defense, even despite their injuries, he was a
5th dman. Edler was listed as 6-7 dman before the season but ended up playing more because of injuries. Krajicek had two injury stints a twisted ankle 8-10 games and then a seperated shoulder 30+ that kept him out. On the Thrashers roster he would easily be a top 4 dman, offensively only Enstrom would be better and he is easily the best skater of all the Thrashers dman, he isn't the strongest or most physical defender, thus he needs to play with someone like Exelby.

The big reason the Canucks were not a playoff team is due to injuries on defense and lack of scoring up front.
Um...

Enstrom played with Havelid, not Exelby.

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Um...

Enstrom played with Havelid, not Exelby.
Pretty sure he was talking about who Krajicek could play with if he was a Thrasher...

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Pretty sure he was talking about who Krajicek could play with if he was a Thrasher...
Well, to be honest, most of us are hoping that Exelby isn't a Thrasher next season.

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Because of the depth of the Canucks defense, even despite their injuries, he was a
5th dman. Edler was listed as 6-7 dman before the season but ended up playing more because of injuries. Krajicek had two injury stints a twisted ankle 8-10 games and then a seperated shoulder 30+ that kept him out. On the Thrashers roster he would easily be a top 4 dman, offensively only Enstrom would be better and he is easily the best skater of all the Thrashers dman, he isn't the strongest or most physical defender, thus he needs to play with someone like Exelby.

The big reason the Canucks were not a playoff team is due to injuries on defense and lack of scoring up front.
Krajicek didn't receive even 5th D minutes in either of the last two seasons. Coaches tend to play their most effective guys more. Edler got more time this year because-->he's good.

Would Krajicek be an effective defender without Luongo is another unanswered question.

Exelby is really a 3rd pairing defenseman on a playoff team so putting Krajicek with him on the third pairing would make sense. But I'm not willing to give up on E. Christenson's potential until we see him for a full season. 3rd paring defensemen can be obtained through free agency pretty readily.

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Krajicek played as a 5th d-man due to the Canucks' stacked defense. This should not be debatable. He would be a top-4 on most teams.

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Only Vancouver does this deal, because it covers a weakness.

Center isn't an area of strenght for the Thrashers (White is not a 2nd line center, Espo isn't ready IMO) and therefore I don't like this prosposal.

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