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05-20-2008, 01:30 PM
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There are only two teams I can see Pandolfo leaving the Devils for. Unfortunately for New Jersey, the Rangers are one of those two.

I don't see it happening, though. Pandolfo is going to be kind of expensive to be a fourth-line winger on Betts' wing.

What do you think he's looking to get?

Hollweg is cheap but he's just void of any offensive threat and he's nowhere near the defensive talent of Pandolfo. Not even close to the same universe. Pandolfo is probably a better fighter too.

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Jay Pandolfo = 07/08 Compensation: $836,000.00

He had an off year because he struggled with a groin injury. Came back too soon because NJD desperately needed him. But he's been an iron horse player the last few years. Too bad in a contract year...Sounds ripe for some GM to grab a Selke quality Defensive specialist

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05-20-2008, 01:57 PM
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I'll pass we don't need another former Devil who is looking for a good pay day that Devils were to cheap to give. Let him suffer in obsurity in the hood of newark.

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05-20-2008, 02:00 PM
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It was actually a pelvic injury, not a groin injury (link):

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Left wing Jay Pandolfo remained off the ice again today as he tries to work his way back from an injury to a ligament attached to his pubic bone which has kept him out of the last 12 games.

Friday will make it a full month since Pandolfo was injured when he slammed back-first into the boards in the third period of a Nov. 28 win over Dallas. "It's definitely a freak thing," he said. "They compare it to kind of a car crash."
He actually had a great start to the season before he got injured, Sutter let him and Madden be a little more offensive and they were both putting up higher than usual offensive numbers. That injury broke his streak of 307 consecutive games played.

If I had to guess at what he'll get next year, I'd say $1.5 million or more.

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If I had to guess at what he'll get next year, I'd say $1.5 million or more.
Then I believe that would take the Rangers out of it.

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dime a dozen player. those kinds of guys you fill from within.
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If Pandolfo asks for more than 1.5, that will kind of worry me. He's great at what he does, but he's not worth much more than that.

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LOL

Glad to see most of your peers here disagree.
Seriously just getting him off of Jagrs ass is worth the extra $$$.

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There are only two teams I can see Pandolfo leaving the Devils for. Unfortunately for New Jersey, the Rangers are one of those two.

I don't see it happening, though. Pandolfo is going to be kind of expensive to be a fourth-line winger on Betts' wing.
why do you think the rangers are one of those teams? as im typing this i am realizing because he was good friends with gomez but i dont think pando would do that.

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It was actually a pelvic injury, not a groin injury (link):


He actually had a great start to the season before he got injured, Sutter let him and Madden be a little more offensive and they were both putting up higher than usual offensive numbers. That injury broke his streak of 307 consecutive games played.

If I had to guess at what he'll get next year, I'd say $1.5 million or more.
no, i wouls say at most 1.5. and only because the cap is going up. there is no way he gets over 2

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05-20-2008, 02:58 PM
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LOL

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thats fine, they dont have to agree with me, this board would be incredibly boring if everyone thought the exact same thing.
He averages 10 goals and 13 assists a season while playing solid defense. Great. We have plenty of players who could provide his level of offensive production, or his level of defensive prowess. Maybe not to the levels he does (just yet), but enough so that making him a target of our would be useless. Maybe hes not a dime a dozen player, but hes nothing special. This team has that "kind" of player in spades. what we dont have, and what we need, are players who are game changers. who can score goals at will, who can force the other teams to do things they arent used to. We have enough indians, now we need another chief or 2.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Sather at least inquired about Pandolfo. He's a longtime Devil player that's UFA.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Sather at least inquired about Pandolfo. He's a longtime Devil player that's UFA.
Solid player who is a UFA coming off a understandably "off" season? I think Pando will be on many GMs radar looking for a good deal.

I know he's not the sexy sniper all the Ranger fans are looking for on July 1st, but he is a very solid defensive specialist well worth the investment.

How close is he to Gomez?

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05-20-2008, 03:13 PM
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Solid player who is a UFA coming off a understandably "off" season? I think Pando will be on many GMs radar looking for a good deal.

I know he's not the sexy sniper all the Ranger fans are looking for on July 1st, but he is a very solid defensive specialist well worth the investment.

How close is he to Gomez?
i dont think he was coming off an offseason. he was injured for a while but still had 24 points in 54 games. thats a good season for jay

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If it's for less than 1.25 mil or so for 2-3 years, I would do it. It would make the PK that much better, as well as providing the Rangers with a complete shutdown line in Pandolfo-Betts-Sjostrom. Pandolfo, Betts, and Drury are 3 of the best PKers in the league.

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If we could get him for under 1.5 I'd be in favor of it..but with being so close to the cap and needing to find a way to get a scoring winger and/or help on defense, I don't think he should be a priority. Our fourth line is already pretty good - especially if Hollweg isn't on it.

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1.5 mil for pandolfo, means a kid in hartford who is ready (korpedo, byers, moore) is stunted for another year, AND we just spend 0.5-1 million dollars unnecessarily on an already cap effed team.

I cant believe anyone would seriously consider signing him when we have so many monumentally bigger holes to fill and such a small amount of cap space to fill it with.

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1.5 mil for pandolfo, means a kid in hartford who is ready (korpedo, byers, moore) is stunted for another year, AND we just spend 0.5-1 million dollars unnecessarily on an already cap effed team.

I cant believe anyone would seriously consider signing him when we have so many monumentally bigger holes to fill and such a small amount of cap space to fill it with.
Exactly. This is not so much about Pandolfo--it's about what holes the Rangers have to fill and how much they have to spend. Spending 1.5 mil on a 32 year old wing to play 3rd/4th line when kids in Hartford are ready to move up just doesn't make sense. You have to set priorities and take care of them first. 1) Scoring winger--hopefully Jagr for 2 years or less 2) Avery--who can fill in lines 1-3 and has a lot of intangibles 3) puck moving d-man 4) if there is still money available and there may not be enough crease clearing defensive minded d-man. We don't need 3rd and 4th line UFA's--we have kids progressing nicely in Hartford this year some of whom should be able to take over those kinds of responsibilities.

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I can see Pandolfo staying in New Jersey for between $1M-$1.8M/season. Higher than that and I'd let him walk. Anywhere else is largely dependent on demand, but I can see him ending up on another team for contracts ranging from $1.4M-$2.4M/season.

That breaks the Rangers' budget for 3rd and 4th line players, and you guys really don't need him. My best guess is he'll be back in NJ for something along the lines of a 3 year deal at $1.3M with a NTC.

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No need to sign more vets on this team. A lot of us thought about signing Mike Peca last offseason and the best thing that happened was that we didn't sign him and let Brandon Dubinsky play. Next year guys like Dane Byers and Lauri Korpikoski will be ready to join the Rangers and I don't want their progress hindered by a defensive forward. Defensive play from our forwards wasn't the Rangers problem this year it was the weakness on the blue line and our inability to score on the power play. If we had just one more decent defenseman who could play 20-25 minutes a night and a better PP % we probably would still be playing.

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I cant believe anyone would seriously consider signing him when we have so many monumentally bigger holes to fill and such a small amount of cap space to fill it with.
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1.5 mil for pandolfo, means a kid in hartford who is ready (korpedo, byers, moore) is stunted for another year
korpikoski would probably better off playing in Hartford than being Betts' wingman, and I don't think they should be making personnel decisions based on Moore or Byers

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korpikoski would probably better off playing in Hartford than being Betts' wingman, and I don't think they should be making personnel decisions based on Moore or Byers
i dont agree with that. imho playing with betts is literally the perfect place to start korpedo. it gives him time to catch up with the speed and the pace of the game w/o any scoring pressure or any real expectations on performance. i dont think he has much if anything to learn in the minors that he cant do here. hes already got the defensive game, and the speed and head to play at this level. all he needs is to develop his offensive game. i personally feel hes at the stage where he can do it on the fly on the 4th line, and still help the team with the other aspects of his game.

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i dont agree with that. imho playing with betts is literally the perfect place to start korpedo. it gives him time to catch up with the speed and the pace of the game w/o any scoring pressure or any real expectations on performance. i dont think he has much if anything to learn in the minors that he cant do here. hes already got the defensive game, and the speed and head to play at this level. all he needs is to develop his offensive game. i personally feel hes at the stage where he can do it on the fly on the 4th line, and still help the team with the other aspects of his game.
I agree with everything you said, but the bolded part seems out of place. I agree he can contribute to the Rangers now, but it would be easier for him to develop his offensive game playing lots in HFD, rather than alongside Betts in NY.

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I agree with everything you said, but the bolded part seems out of place. I agree he can contribute to the Rangers now, but it would be easier for him to develop his offensive game playing lots in HFD, rather than alongside Betts in NY.
yeah, thats the exact same argument i used about Dubinsky before last season.

I was definitely proven wrong there, and its made me a believer that you can develop your offensive game with the big club just as well.

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yeah, thats the exact same argument i used about Dubinsky before last season.

I was definitely proven wrong there, and its made me a believer that you can develop your offensive game with the big club just as well.
I don't doubt you can develop your offensive game in the NHL, I think it's easier to develop your offensive game playing 18 minutes in the AHL than playing PK and 5 ES minutes with Betts an Orr. totally different from Dubinsky's situation.

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