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05-24-2008, 11:36 AM
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He needs a new agent

If I was representing him, I'd drop subtle hints that there's a strong possibility of him going back to Russia everywhere I could, even if totally fake, just to increase the pressure on Gainey to make a deal

You know, like Hull, Shanahan and Briere used Montreal to get more money

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05-24-2008, 11:58 AM
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This is great news.

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05-24-2008, 01:41 PM
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good stuff, thanks for the link.

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05-24-2008, 02:03 PM
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Saying he doesn't want to leave Montreal is not saying he won't leave Montreal.

Right now, it's still a very real possibility that he will leave Montreal.

Of course it's possible but it looks improbable. Are you nervous?

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05-24-2008, 02:09 PM
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Good news but I'll hold off on celebrating until he actually puts his name on a new contract with the Habs. Money talks, he's no different from anyone else...so we'll see.

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05-24-2008, 02:49 PM
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Never say never.

Until he has signed on the dotted line I will still be nervous.

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05-24-2008, 03:35 PM
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Of course it's possible but it looks improbable. Are you nervous?
For me personally I'm not nervous. But I know I'll feel better when his signature is on a new contract.

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05-24-2008, 04:23 PM
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Andrei had too much going for him to leave, he's not Alexander Perezhogin.

Next year i call atleast 30 goals for him, finally a star within the system!

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05-24-2008, 04:37 PM
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He and Sergei will bleed the Hab colors.

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05-24-2008, 05:00 PM
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That is really great for us. Good break. I was scared of an outrageous offer not so much from the Russian league but another NHL team trying to steal him from us ie. Penner.

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05-24-2008, 05:04 PM
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Of course it's possible but it looks improbable. Are you nervous?
Definitely. I think it's a very real possibility.

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05-24-2008, 05:12 PM
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Definitely. I think it's a very real possibility.
Chill out jeez. Even if he gets an offer sheet this summer: 1) He has to sign it, leaving his brother and his teammates behind . 2) Gainey can match the offer sheet.

And even if he receives an offer from a KHL team (Which is nearly impossible 'cause the 4M offer rumour from AK bars was denied by the russian team. Moreover, each KHL teams have a 20M cap and the highest salary is around 2M.), I highly doubt he leaves his brother and the team after all he's been through in NA.

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05-24-2008, 05:29 PM
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Chill out jeez. Even if he gets an offer sheet this summer: 1) He has to sign it, leaving his brother and his teammates behind . 2) Gainey can match the offer sheet.

And even if he receives an offer from a KHL team (Which is nearly impossible 'cause the 4M offer rumour from AK bars was denied by the russian team. Moreover, each KHL teams have a 20M cap and the highest salary is around 2M.), I highly doubt he leaves his brother and the team after all he's been through in NA.
You need to check your information.

The highest salary in the Russian League is $2 million?

Uh, no.

The Russian League can offer him a tax-free $4 million a season without blinking an eye.

And that, my friend, Bob Gainey can't even come close to matching. And he's exactly the kind of player they should be targeting, and they can make an offer that the NHL quite simply can't compete with.

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05-24-2008, 05:40 PM
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The Russian League can offer him a tax-free $4 million a season without blinking an eye.
I doubt a player that never did anything in the league would get the same salary as Morozov. Perezhogin was a lot more proven than Kostitsyn and he got less than two millions.

It's possible, but I have my doubts about this threat.

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05-24-2008, 05:43 PM
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Sooooooooooooo, what will the Habs pay him?

Should they offer him a long term deal, say, $4.5 mill over six seasons or do they make a two or three year deal at $3 mill to $3.5 mill?

That said, he, Plekanec, Koivu, Komi, Higgins, Streit & Kovalev are due for raises, some huge over the next two seasons. Other are Gorges, O'Bryne, Halak, Latendresse, Grabber, Tommy Kop, Chipchura & Lapierre, also Bouillon & Begin become UFAs next summer.

So there is some consideration to be made if planning on signing any UFAs to long term deals.


That said, what is Komi worth???

I'm thinking Gainey should get that deal done this summer as well as an extension & I'm expecting something in the range of $5 mill per over five to seven seasons.

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05-24-2008, 05:48 PM
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You need to check your information.

The highest salary in the Russian League is $2 million?

Uh, no.

The Russian League can offer him a tax-free $4 million a season without blinking an eye.

And that, my friend, Bob Gainey can't even come close to matching. And he's exactly the kind of player they should be targeting, and they can make an offer that the NHL quite simply can't compete with.
I didn't say the maximum salary, but the highest, READ carefully before commenting.

Sure they can offer the tax-free 4M, but why would they offer it to Kostitsyn who never proved himself in the RSL or even in the NHL yet. Hell Morozov makes around 2.5M and he's the best player in the KHL.

Have fun. http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/KHL

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05-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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this is great news
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05-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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I didn't say the maximum salary, but the highest, READ carefully before commenting.

Sure they can offer the tax-free 4M, but why would they offer it to Kostitsyn who never proved himself in the RSL or even in the NHL yet. Hell Morozov makes around 2.5M and he's the best player in the KHL.

Have fun. http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/KHL
Uh, read what *I* wrote. I said highest, not maximum.

If you're gonna get self-important and start correcting me, at least be correct.

As for Morozov, he signed over there after a rather mediocre stint in the NHL. If you don't think the CHL will start targeting players - particularly guys at the stage of their career that Andrei is at - then you're crazy. Why would they care that he hadn't proven himself in the RSL (I assume you mean the CHL?) The league has made it clearly the fully intend to poach players from the NHL. Andrei would be a prime target for that.

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05-24-2008, 06:22 PM
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Uh, read what *I* wrote. I said highest, not maximum.

If you're gonna get self-important and start correcting me, at least be correct.
The pocket depth of some of these guys makes me a bit worried until he's actually signed here. They can announce whatever cap they want, they also can offer whatever they want. It depends on how serious they are about a structured level playing field league.

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05-24-2008, 06:27 PM
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Nice to hear, knock on wood the contract gets signed soon and for 5 years.

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05-24-2008, 06:41 PM
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I didn't say the maximum salary, but the highest, READ carefully before commenting.

Sure they can offer the tax-free 4M, but why would they offer it to Kostitsyn who never proved himself in the RSL or even in the NHL yet. Hell Morozov makes around 2.5M and he's the best player in the KHL.

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I read Morozov is getting 4 million.

http://beanballinc.blogspot.com/2007...er-league.html

Morozov didn't do very much in the NHL neither.

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It's not just about money, the NHL is the best league in the world, and it's 100 times safer in Montreal than in Kazan, Russia. The mafia is very strong in russia right now, so being there with a big contract makes you either a member or a target.

is that really the case in that part of Russia? Is there any basis for this or just another cultural misconception?

If it really is the case, I don't know why anyone would want to play there other than the money.

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Now the only thing we need is for Hossa to come



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I agree 100,000,000%. If not Hossa, another top offensive forward, and a decent center would be nice as well.

BTW, AK wanting to stay in Montreal is ssssssssoooooooooooooooooo cool

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He also is Belurussian so playing in Russia wouldnt be playing at home.

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You need to check your information.

The highest salary in the Russian League is $2 million?

Uh, no.

The Russian League can offer him a tax-free $4 million a season without blinking an eye.

And that, my friend, Bob Gainey can't even come close to matching. And he's exactly the kind of player they should be targeting, and they can make an offer that the NHL quite simply can't compete with.
There are no taxes in Russia?

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