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05-31-2008, 04:01 AM
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I will only participate in this project if you are the copy editor, Paul.
haha no its bad enough that i type poorly becuase of the nerve damage in my right hand and I certaily cant overlook everyone elses work.

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apply and tell me who you are

I wont approve anyoen for 6 hrs though

so you wont se the work I have started for the future draft

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Eh, that things trying to map network drives and I'd prefer not to do that for security reasons.

You can just email me the relevent info or PM it to me.

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One thing I mentioned to LL for this was that a book of this nature would take a different approach than how we've drafted in the past. I don't think it's out of the question that instead of us each having a team, we all collaborate and make a decision on who a team would pick in a particular position. I think a book would look kind of silly if a team was picking crappy players too early. Also, it would be interesting to write down the "war room" discussion as GMs debate the merits of a handful of players on their list for their next selection.

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On this front, it's very, very difficult to get published, and I hope you guys know what you're getting into. I have talked to many writers over the years (fiction, mostly), who spent a lot of time trying to get their work published. They went to many publishers, and were turned down. Then when their work was accepted, they went through several drafts before finally getting the final version published. It is not an easy path. You have to be patient, persistent and resilient.

There are some outlets out there now that have made publishing easier (I don't know if Instabook is still around or not). But those are usually for low-production books. You won't make a dime off of something like Instabook.

I think it's a great idea. I don't know if I'd be a part of it. If I did, it would be for mostly selfish reasons, ie: to get my name on a published book. But be aware of what you're getting yourself into.

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Can we have co-gm's?

EDIT: And how much would it cost each of us?

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On this front, it's very, very difficult to get published, and I hope you guys know what you're getting into. I have talked to many writers over the years (fiction, mostly), who spent a lot of time trying to get their work published. They went to many publishers, and were turned down. Then when their work was accepted, they went through several drafts before finally getting the final version published. It is not an easy path. You have to be patient, persistent and resilient.

There are some outlets out there now that have made publishing easier (I don't know if Instabook is still around or not). But those are usually for low-production books. You won't make a dime off of something like Instabook.

I think it's a great idea. I don't know if I'd be a part of it. If I did, it would be for mostly selfish reasons, ie: to get my name on a published book. But be aware of what you're getting yourself into.

We will find the publsiher when we are ready.

It is a long journey and we will explore the various avenues to get it published. If we make money great and if we don't I am sure the losses will be just lost time and we all loose time anyways here on the web

Offcourse we would like to have you as a key contributer

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05-31-2008, 03:01 PM
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Can we have co-gm's?

EDIT: And how much would it cost each of us?
ok but you would have to count as one gm.

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ok but you would have to count as one gm.
no problem, and how much would it cost us?

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no problem, and how much would it cost us?
Thats unknown for now.I would assume under a 1000 dollars easily as a whole.

Once we have disucssed it with publishers we will have a clearer idea.

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http://groups.msn.com/AllTimeHockeyDraft

there are more details on the group site

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We will find the publsiher when we are ready.

It is a long journey and we will explore the various avenues to get it published. If we make money great and if we don't I am sure the losses will be just lost time and we all loose time anyways here on the web

Offcourse we would like to have you as a key contributer
It's not just finding one when you are ready. It's a lot of hard work to find a publisher. It takes time. You have to have a manuscript ready, you have to have a cover letter. These publishing companies get thousands of book requests each year from people who think they have a great story idea. Few get beyond the cover letter stage. Even fewer get printed.

And it's not just time invested into writing a book. Comparing the process of writing a book to spending time on-line, or even time participating in an ATD, is nonsense. When you write a book, you're investing yourself into it. You're putting all sorts of emotion into it.

I don't want to sound too harsh on the idea, because I think there are some merits to it. But before I sign up and say "let's do it," I want to make sure you guys know what you're getting yourself into. If you don't, I don't want to be a part of it.

Incidentally, here's the Instabook website: http://www.instabook.net

I believe Gare Joyce is now a poster here. He wrote the magnificent When the Lights Went Out - a look back on the epic Punch-Up at Piestany - the Canada/USSR brawl of 87. You might want to PM him and ask him for advice.

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I think the passion unites us all


and thats a given

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and thats a given
lol reading that post as it sits next to your avatar was sweet.

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lol reading that post as it sits next to your avatar was sweet.
Nice too see the classic Leaf Lander avatar back.

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just keep in mind that to understand what we are doing or to give feedback you must join the msn group cause im not at liverty to discuss it on a open forum like this one.

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stop discussing the book here

go to the msn group;

I don't want the ideas to get out to any other writers.


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stop discussing the book here

go to themsn group;

I dotn want the ideas to get out to any other writers.
sorry leaflander...

i deleted my post (and will post it in the group later).

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sorry leaflander...

i deleted my post (and will post it in the group later).
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I really don't think that's a risk

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I'd like to be involved but like I said before MSN groups like to map network drives and otherwise do all kinds of stupid crap that they shouldn't (kinda like AOL does) which simply isn't gonna happen. I've been a network admin in the past and I know when I'm creating a security hole the size of the Persian Gulf. If you guys have any other way to communicate/discuss this then I'd love to join. Perhaps a private, invite-only HFBoards Social Group?

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doing that fff gives hf intellectual property rights

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