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06-03-2008, 01:14 AM
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The hiring of Coach Wilson says only one thing to me: Fletcher appears to be staying for next season

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06-03-2008, 01:22 AM
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Ron Wilson lead the Capitals to the Cup finals one year before they slipped back into obscurity.

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06-03-2008, 10:27 AM
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i think wilson will get it

imo fletcher will remain GM for this season, with a "supporting cabinet"
did they not hire someone else already to help him? they wanted to talk to Nieuwendyk and they talked to nonis, but i dont think he wants to be part of a team.

im predicting they get gilmour on next to help fletcher also! lol

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06-03-2008, 10:44 AM
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Dysfunctional does not begin to explain the situation in Leafs land and I for one am not about to complain.

I heard various reports this weekend that included Tannebaum, Peddie, Kirke, Fletcher in various discussion with candidates. The Leafs are a toy for the Tannebaums, Lastmans and other board member and they are a cash cow for the Teachers Pension. No single vision, no one ultimately responsible. That is the problem in Toronto and unless they fix the ownership situation, this joke of an organization will continue to sputter. They remind me of a minor hockey team where parents are running the asylum.

Hiring Burke will not necessarily change things. In the current structure, all decisions are at the board level and there has been no discussion or rumors of this changing. You need to hire a strong hockey GM/President and give him carte blanche. Mr. Gillett understood this and I personally thank him for what he has done to turn our franchise around.

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06-03-2008, 01:18 PM
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The Leafs are basement-bound for the next 3-4 yrs. The *previous* management really screwed up their picks/prospect pool.

Rask and Boyes are just 2 of the gems they let go for garbage.

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06-03-2008, 01:32 PM
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Rask and Boyes are just 2 of the gems they let go for garbage.
Rask hasn't proven anything yet ...

And who are the other gems the Leafs let go? Ric Jackman? Mikael Tellqvist?

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06-03-2008, 01:40 PM
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Rask hasn't proven anything yet ...

And who are the other gems the Leafs let go? Ric Jackman? Mikael Tellqvist?
Jason Smith, Steve Sullivan are the only two I can think of.

They're not exactly drafting machines over there.

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06-03-2008, 01:44 PM
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How many picks have they traded over the years for old vets like Nieuwendyk? A lot. It got them nowhere.

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Jason Smith, Steve Sullivan are the only two I can think of.

They're not exactly drafting machines over there.
Not until recently at least ... Since 2003, the drafting has been above average pulling out gems like Stralman, Ruegsegger, DiDomenico, Pogge, Vorobiev in late rounds while only rarely keeping 1st round picks.

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Not until recently at least ... Since 2003, the drafting has been above average pulling out gems like Stralman, Ruegsegger, DiDomenico, Pogge, Vorobiev in late rounds while only rarely keeping 1st round picks.
Sorry, like Rask they have proven nothing.

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06-03-2008, 02:01 PM
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Sorry, like Rask they have proven nothing.
They haven't, except for Stralman who is already in the NHL. Like Rask, however, the rest have progressed well since being drafted.

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06-03-2008, 02:03 PM
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Not until recently at least ... Since 2003, the drafting has been above average pulling out gems like Stralman, Ruegsegger, DiDomenico, Pogge, Vorobiev in late rounds while only rarely keeping 1st round picks.
Those guys have a combined what? 20 NHL games? All from Stralman.

That's like calling JT Wyman a gem for Montreal.

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06-03-2008, 02:15 PM
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Those guys have a combined what? 20 NHL games? All from Stralman.

That's like calling JT Wyman a gem for Montreal.
Wyman struggled in his short stink with the Bulldogs this year as a 22 year old, something the prospects I mentioned have yet to do.

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Wyman struggled in his short stink with the Bulldogs this year as a 22 year old, something the prospects I mentioned have yet to do.
If the bar for a good draft pick is "not struggling in the AHL yet" then the bar is not very high.

I'm not saying those guys are bad picks, but it's way too soon to call any of them good picks (besides Stralman who looks like a good snag).

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06-03-2008, 02:59 PM
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If the bar for a good draft pick is "not struggling in the AHL yet" then the bar is not very high.
Well, the bar is demonstrating the potential to play a valuable role in the NHL due to their development since being selected late in the draft.

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06-03-2008, 03:00 PM
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Well, the bar is demonstrating the potential to play a valuable role in the NHL due to their development since being selected late in the draft.
Fair enough, but really, no draft pick has "failed" who was taken last year. Few from the year before, so most teams by that logic had successful drafts the last couple years.

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06-03-2008, 05:59 PM
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Smells like.. sniff sniff.. trolling.

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06-03-2008, 06:02 PM
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Wilson is gonna love Simmons and Cox.

Not to mention that little weasel Howard Berger.

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06-04-2008, 09:33 AM
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Are they still going to wait for Burke until 2009? Then what? If he doesn't like Wilson and wants to bring his own man..?

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Are they still going to wait for Burke until 2009? Then what? If he doesn't like Wilson and wants to bring his own man..?
Wilson and Burke played together for Providence with Burke being the captain and Wilson the assistant. Burke also got Wilson his first coaching job with Milwaukee.

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06-04-2008, 09:52 AM
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Are they still going to wait for Burke until 2009? Then what? If he doesn't like Wilson and wants to bring his own man..?
What if Burke gets a fat contract extension?
I'm desperately hoping for that, just so it will get interesting.

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