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06-10-2008, 12:45 PM
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agreed on Chris Clark in DC. It was a steal when he signed it. Let's hope he can get healthy now.
Wait a minute before he end up in DC playing with Mr.Ovechkin he was 3rd line player career 10 goals per season 25 somethign points at best. He still is. Look at Zubrus with Ovechkin 1st line player over 20 goals with out Ovechkin 13 goals

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06-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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If I remember correctly from his book (sorry, don't have it handy) his reasoning was twofold: 1) that winning is the most important thing to him, and with the salary cap being instituted him taking a bit less would allow the team to spend that money on other good players, and 2) that the deal would make him a bit underpaid in the short term, but it would be evened out by being potentially overpaid as he gets close to forty.
And that is why he is the man and the one of the first people I would grab to start a franchise with...

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Brodeur is signed for $5.2
He was getting $8 million before the cap was imposed...

In reguard to Elias, I remember the rumors that he was offered $7.5+ from the rags...now that is a discount.

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06-10-2008, 01:27 PM
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Lidstrom has never had the max. He signed a $10M/yr deal in '02 and that's the last time he ever got a raise. He's won 3 (soon to be 4) Norris trophies since then and no raise. His contract for the next two seasons actually shave $200K off the top.

2 year $10M/yr deal signed in '02.
2 year $10M/yr deal signed in '04. The lockout killed one year and it dropped to $7.6M w/ the rollback.
2 year $7.6M/yr deal signed in '06. Max was around $9M/yr.
2 year $7.4M/yr deal signed in '08. Max will be around $11M/yr.

If there is a max contract worthy player out there, it's Lidstrom. Since the lockout he's left at least $5M+ on the table that he could have demanded and received.
Ahh, no the $7.6m deal was an extension signed before the new cap was finalized, Lidstrom never reached free agency and therefore couldn't sign for more then $7.6. Could he have waited and got more money? Almost definitely. But when he signed his contract he got the most that could be offered.

His latest deal is certainly below the max, but even though he is still the best defenseman in the league, I'm not sure exactly how much he is leaving on the table due to his age. Certainly some, and I wouldn't argue that he is a bargain at just about any price. But he isn't an example of a player in his prime, with leverage, leaving multiple millions of dollars on the table.

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06-10-2008, 01:53 PM
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How about Shane Doan. He signed a five year contract worth 4.5 M per. For the tyoe of player he is you would think he would get a lot more.

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06-10-2008, 02:11 PM
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How about Shane Doan. He signed a five year contract worth 4.5 M per. For the type of player he is you would think he would get a lot more.

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06-10-2008, 02:56 PM
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Wait a minute before he end up in DC playing with Mr.Ovechkin he was 3rd line player career 10 goals per season 25 somethign points at best. He still is. Look at Zubrus with Ovechkin 1st line player over 20 goals with out Ovechkin 13 goals
Take out his goal totals. He's team captain, plays PP and PK, and only makes $2.63m.

There's only 2 full-time captains in the league that make less than him, Ethan Moreau and Jamie Langenbrunner.

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06-10-2008, 02:57 PM
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Take out his goal totals. He's team captain, plays PP and PK, and only makes $2.63m.

There's only 2 full-time captains in the league that make less than him, Ethan Moreau and Jamie Langenbrunner.
One. Langenbrunner makes $2.8M

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Like someone has already mentionned, I don't think Brodeur fits into that category. Yes he has a discount, but he can afford this discount because he has no agent to pay since he negociated with the GM all by himself. Yes it does affect the cap favorably for the Devils, but it's like a circumvention that one can do when they are very very close to the organisation.

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06-10-2008, 03:38 PM
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Completely shocked no one has mentioned Kaberle yet. $4.25 Million per year is close to $3 mill less than he'd get on the market

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06-10-2008, 03:42 PM
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Completely shocked no one has mentioned Kaberle yet. $4.25 Million per year is close to $3 mill less than he'd get on the market
Good point, he is a bargain for sure.

What makes it even more surprising (that he hadn't been mentioned yet) is that he is a Leaf, should their fans not be out in droves proclaiming him the best bargain in the history of organizied sports?????

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06-10-2008, 03:57 PM
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Thornton took a massive discount to allow San Jose to re-sign Patrick Marleau. He could easily have gotten $9M on the free agent market, especially in a year that Chris Drury got over $7M, but he signed a 3 year deal worth $21M over that time span, and says he wants to continue to sign three year deals with San Jose for the rest of his career.

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Markov could have gotten more on the open market.
Habs - 5.75
He signed for more then what everyone on here expected. Not really at a discount.

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Ahh, no the $7.6m deal was an extension signed before the new cap was finalized, Lidstrom never reached free agency and therefore couldn't sign for more then $7.6. Could he have waited and got more money? Almost definitely. But when he signed his contract he got the most that could be offered.
Actually his extension was signed after the new cap was finalized, but the day before it went into effect.

June 27th 2006 - League announces $44mil cap for the 06-07 season
June 30th 2006 - Lidstrom resigns for $7.6mil
July 1st 2006 - new league year begins and $44mil cap goes into effect.

So yes, technically it was signed before the new cap went into place, but Lidstrom and the team knew what the new cap limit was and could have waited 24 hours to sign a larger contract if wanted.

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06-10-2008, 05:36 PM
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Not a home town discount but Kariya signing in colorado for one year at I think it was 1.6 to stay with Selanne and take a shot at the cup was a pretty high discount all things considered. He saved the Aves 4 mil easy.

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06-10-2008, 05:47 PM
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Not a home town discount but Kariya signing in colorado for one year at I think it was 1.6 to stay with Selanne and take a shot at the cup was a pretty high discount all things considered. He saved the Aves 4 mil easy.
By signing a 1 year deal at less then league average it also accelerated his eligibility to UFA status. So while he took a discount, it served him in getting a better pay check in the long run.

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If I remember correctly from his book (sorry, don't have it handy) his reasoning was twofold: 1) that winning is the most important thing to him, and with the salary cap being instituted him taking a bit less would allow the team to spend that money on other good players, and 2) that the deal would make him a bit underpaid in the short term, but it would be evened out by being potentially overpaid as he gets close to forty.
I remember something about that part that even if he wasnt good by age 40, he still gets paid the same

Either way, its a team player move that is worthy of

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Jokinen took less money to stay a Panther!

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Dipietro, the length sucks but if he did hit the open market he could of got at least over 5 million.

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Like someone has already mentionned, I don't think Brodeur fits into that category. Yes he has a discount, but he can afford this discount because he has no agent to pay since he negociated with the GM all by himself. Yes it does affect the cap favorably for the Devils, but it's like a circumvention that one can do when they are very very close to the organisation.
Brodeur not only fits into the category, but he's probably the best example. He took a significant discount - a lot more than just the amount he saved by not using an agent. I'm not sure how much agents take, but if it's 5% that would be just $350K out of a $7M contract - and I think it's fair to say Marty could be making millions more. He also had to have a lawyer involved with the contract, so it's not like he got 100% of that money anyway.

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Pavel Datsyuk took a home town discount 7 years at 6.7 is a steal for Datsyuk who is a top 5 player in the NHL in my opinion.

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Markov at 4.75 is very good.

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5 million for Kubina isnt a discount its and overpayment by the Leafs... It seems they do that quite often.

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With all this frenzied talk of players in Pittsburgh taking hometown discounts, I would like to find out who has taken hometown discounts since the lockout.

This could be highly debated, as not everyone agrees as to what a home-town discount is. But lets make a list of every player since the lockout to take a discount for one reason or another:

Ps: when I say took a discount, I mean at the time of signing. My example is Darcy Tucker, 31, 4 year extension @ $3 million a year. At the time, it seemed like he could have gotten $1 million a year more.

Who are your examples?
Martin Brodeur is only making 5.2 mil, and he's the best, could easily be making 7 mil and up if he wanted too.

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06-17-2008, 03:19 AM
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Jokinen took less money to stay a Panther!

And Luongo bailed . I still believe to this day that Jokinen or his agent said to Luongo and co. "we'll sign for a discount long term if you re-up in the summer". Lupien/Luongo and Keenan had it out...Keenan wins...we all lose.

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