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What can the 27th and 29th picks get you?

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05-28-2004, 10:05 AM
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What can the 27th and 29th picks get you?

How far up in the draft could the Caps go if they packaged the 27th and 29th picks together?

What team's could be interested in a 2 for 1 swap?

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Ottawa will put in a bid at #23...

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I would likely trade Colorado's #21 for those two picks.

Nothing really stands out for the Avalanche except for Kyle Chipchura and possibly Roman Voloshenko, so moving down wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

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How far up in the draft could the Caps go if they packaged the 27th and 29th picks together?

What team's could be interested in a 2 for 1 swap?
You could probably get up to around 13.

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You could probably get up to around 13.
Buffalo needs two lesser prospects rather than one better one? I can see Colorado willing to move down but teams that are on the outside looking in would be looking to obtain the best talent they can at the draft IMO.

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I'd swap Montreal's 18th overall for the 27th and 29th picks any day.

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I would likely trade Colorado's #21 for those two picks.

Nothing really stands out for the Avalanche except for Kyle Chipchura and possibly Roman Voloshenko, so moving down wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
No teams going to give up two top 30 picks for the #21.

Especially not in a draft like this.

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No teams going to give up two top 30 picks for the #21.

Especially not in a draft like this.

I agree, from what I have read 1 & 2 stand head and shoulders above, then a group of perhaps players 3-8, then a next group that lasts until maybe 15, and after that this draft really thins, through the second round, so that all the players are pretty much indistinguishable . . .so if I am sitting at 27 & 29 why would I jump up to 18 at the cost of one of those picks unless someone really dropped?

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You could probably get up to around 13.
I can't see the Caps trading up unless they can get somewhere around the 13th spot.

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Buffalo needs two lesser prospects rather than one better one? I can see Colorado willing to move down but teams that are on the outside looking in would be looking to obtain the best talent they can at the draft IMO.
I didn't mean a particular team. I just said around that pick. Just a number I threw out, not a team


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No teams going to give up two top 30 picks for the #21.

Especially not in a draft like this.
Not necessarily. A team might be really, really high on someone they know will be taken before their first pick, and might be willing to part ways with two lower first round picks. It's not likely in a draft like this, but it's certainly possible.

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I can't see the Caps trading up unless they can get somewhere around the 13th spot.
It's going to take more than the 26/27th, and 29th overall to get a top 10 pick, where I'd think McPhee would want to go for a defenseman.

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It's going to take more than the 26/27th, and 29th overall to get a top 10 pick, where I'd think McPhee would want to go for a defenseman.
You never know.

The Caps traded a 26th pick in 2002, with a 2nd and a 6th and moved up to the 13 overall.

I would think another first would be better than a 2nd and a 6th, wouldn't it?

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You never know.

The Caps traded a 26th pick in 2002, with a 2nd and a 6th and moved up to the 13 overall.

I would think another first would be better than a 2nd and a 6th, wouldn't it?
Hey, you're right. I've just been given the impression that the teams w/top ten picks (where Barker and Thelen are expected to fall off the board), are most hard pressed for quality, and are less apt to trade.

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I didn't mean a particular team. I just said around that pick. Just a number I threw out, not a team
But draft picks are no longer just numbers, they are associated with teams.

As a rule I'd think that playoff-calibre teams would be willing to swap their 1st rounder for two lower 1st rounder, whereas the 14+ teams wouldn't.

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i wouldnt expect you to get higher than about 15th.

But a team may trade a good already drafted prospect for that.

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I'd swap Montreal's 18th overall for the 27th and 29th picks any day.
Why would you do that? Habs have very good prospect depth already, I rather go for quality rather than quantity at this point.

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Why would you do that? Habs have very good prospect depth already, I rather go for quality rather than quantity at this point.
I prefer quantity (for this draft)

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You can have the 12th if (list prospects) aren't there...

 
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Why would you do that? Habs have very good prospect depth already, I rather go for quality rather than quantity at this point.
Yup, in drafts that tend to be average, quantity is much better.

There's a great chance that the best player after the top 10 in the first round will probably go later on, maybe even around 25 or 30.

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Why would you do that? Habs have very good prospect depth already, I rather go for quality rather than quantity at this point.
Well, unless Chipchura or maybe Korpikoski are still around, I would do the flip. Montreal has no 2nd rounder this year. In this draft, I would rather have 2 late 1st rounders rather than one so-so 1st and no 2nd.

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How far up in the draft could the Caps go if they packaged the 27th and 29th picks together?

What team's could be interested in a 2 for 1 swap?
The Oilers at #14 may consider that - that would give them 3 late first round picks (they have Philly's first rounder in addition to their own at #14).

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Saint Louis might do it at 17. Unless they have their eye one someone. Kekalain... err Jarmo might like having two picks to jumpstart his tenure.

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