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06-17-2008, 04:57 PM
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Fuhr is of mixed ancestry, which in his case is black and native. He was adopted and raised by a white family.
Yep, he was raised by my great aunt's family.

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isnt Inuit considered native?
No. Their history is different.

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isnt Inuit considered native?
No it is not, because Tootoo is the FIRST INUIT to play in the NHL, where as his bro Terrance, was the first Inuit to play PRO hockey.
So "technically" Tootoo shouldn't be apart of this discussion.

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Fred Sasakamoose - 8 games with Chi (1953-54), George Armstrong - Leaf HHOF,
Kimbi Daniels, Alex Burrows amongst others.
You sure about that?

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Jonathan Cheechoo, has he been mentioned?

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Jonathan Cheechoo, has he been mentioned?
Jonathan Cheechoo..the Indian with the attitude

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06-17-2008, 11:43 PM
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No it is not, because Tootoo is the FIRST INUIT to play in the NHL, where as his bro Terrance, was the first Inuit to play PRO hockey.
So "technically" Tootoo shouldn't be apart of this discussion.
but, that just asserts that he is Inuit. Are Inuit's considered native? Or is While Inuit refers to a large group of people belonging to smaller sub-groups (much like Arab) wouldn't they still be native?

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06-17-2008, 11:54 PM
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No. Their history is different.
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No it is not, because Tootoo is the FIRST INUIT to play in the NHL, where as his bro Terrance, was the first Inuit to play PRO hockey.
So "technically" Tootoo shouldn't be apart of this discussion.
Then nativehockey.com is wrong?

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06-18-2008, 12:05 AM
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Um no, Scott is of Mexican dissent, most Mexicans are Native Americans just because they speak the Spanish doesn't make them not Native Americans.
i think the word is Latino.

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Then nativehockey.com is wrong?
the best I can find so far (the past 10 minutes)


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"American Indians," "Native Americans," and "First Nations people" are synonyms. They all refer to the same people. "Indigenous people" is a broader term that refers to any culture that lived in a place first. So Native Americans are all indigenous people, but not all indigenous people are Native Americans. For example, native African cultures are also indigenous.


Q: Are Inuit/Eskimos Native American? What about Hawaiians? What about the Metis?
A: No. Like the Native Americans, these three groups are indigenous peoples of Canada and the United States. However, they have unique histories and cultures and consider themselves distinct from Native Americans. The Inuit are polar people who live in the far north of Canada, Alaska, and Greenland. (The word "Eskimo" is considered rude by many Inuit.) The Hawaiians are Polynesian people who are considered indigenous Americans for political reasons (the Hawaiian islands are very far from the North American mainland, but were annexed by the United States). The Metis are mixed-race people whose ancestors were primarily Cree Indians and French Canadians. They have developed a unique culture from these two influences.

The Native Americans, Metis, Inuit, and Hawaiians all face similar problems for their languages and cultures, but they consider themselves distinct peoples.
http://www.native-languages.org/kidfaq.htm#2

It comes down to when they were settled in the area I guess.

If you asked Jordin Tootoo a question about being a "native-american" I don't think he'd go Robidas on you, but it's not the PC terminology.

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http://www.nativehockey.com/players/nhl/

Included in this list are players in the National Hockey League whom have acknowledged Native heritage. Whether full-blooded status Indians, Metis or other Indigenous heritage, these players are usually active in Native communities across North America.*

Aaron Asham
Rene Bourque
Jonathan Cheechoo
Vernon Fiddler
D.J. King
Cody McCormick
Carey Price
Wade Redden
Chris Simon
Sheldon Souray
Jordin Tootoo

*Darcy Tucker also recognizes Native heritage, having an aboriginal grandmother

http://www.nativehockey.com/players/past.html

Blair Atcheynum
George Armstrong (Ojibway)
Henry Boucha
John Chabot
Kimbi Daniels
Scott Daniels
Ron Delorme (Metis)
Dan Frawley (Ojibwa)
Grant Fuhr
Ted Hodgeson (Cree)
Stan Jonathan (Mohawk)
Wayne King (Ojibwa)
Reggie Leach
Sandy McCarthy
Dale McCourt
Vic Mercredi
Jim Neilson
Ted Nolan (Ojibwa)
Gino Odjick (Algonkin)
Mike Peluso
Rich Pilon
Everett Sanipass (Micmac)
Gary Sargent
Fred Sasakamoose (Sandy Lake Cree)
Bobby Simpson (Mohawk)
Frank St. Marseille (Metis - Ojibwa)
Bryan Trottier (Metis)

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06-18-2008, 12:12 AM
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http://www.nativehockey.com/players/minors.html

AHL

Kyle Chipchura (Metis) - Hamilton Bulldogs
Jon Mirasty - Syracuse Crunch
Darren Reid (Metis) - Philadelphia Phantoms
Wacey Rabbit - Providence Bruins

ECHL

Jason Bone (Keeseekowenin First Nation) - Jacksonville Barracudas
Trent Campbell (English River Dene) - South Carolina Stingrays
Chad Denny (Miqmac) - Gwinnett Gladiators
Gary Gladue (Metis) - Victoria Salmon Kings
Lance Monych (Metis) - Mississippi Sea Wolves
Ryan Person (Ebb and Flow Ojibway) - Jacksonville Barracudas

CHL

Robin Big Snake (Siksika) - Rio Grande Valley Killer Bees
Corey Courchene (Saulteaux) - Larado Bucks
Colt King - Rocky Mountain Rage
Alan Nolan - Laredo Bucks
Clay Plume (Kainai) - Rocky Mountain Rage


SPHL

Adam Courchaine -Pensacola Ice Pilots
Craig Stahl (Metis) - Columbus Cottonmouths


LNAH

Darcy Johnson (Saulteaux) - Thetford Mines Pro Lab

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Then nativehockey.com is wrong?
Ironically, yes haha

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http://www.nativehockey.com/players/minors.html

AHL

Kyle Chipchura (Metis) - Hamilton Bulldogs
Jon Mirasty - Syracuse Crunch
Darren Reid (Metis) - Philadelphia Phantoms
Wacey Rabbit - Providence Bruins

ECHL

Jason Bone (Keeseekowenin First Nation) - Jacksonville Barracudas
Trent Campbell (English River Dene) - South Carolina Stingrays
Chad Denny (Miqmac) - Gwinnett Gladiators
Gary Gladue (Metis) - Victoria Salmon Kings
Lance Monych (Metis) - Mississippi Sea Wolves
Ryan Person (Ebb and Flow Ojibway) - Jacksonville Barracudas

CHL

Robin Big Snake (Siksika) - Rio Grande Valley Killer Bees
Corey Courchene (Saulteaux) - Larado Bucks
Colt King - Rocky Mountain Rage
Alan Nolan - Laredo Bucks
Clay Plume (Kainai) - Rocky Mountain Rage


SPHL

Adam Courchaine -Pensacola Ice Pilots
Craig Stahl (Metis) - Columbus Cottonmouths


LNAH

Darcy Johnson (Saulteaux) - Thetford Mines Pro Lab

Hahaha now that is AWESOME.

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06-23-2008, 07:10 PM
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Jonathan Cheechoo
Blair Atcheynum
Sheldon Souray
Casey Pierro-Zabotel
Chris Simon
Jordin Tootoo
Jamie McLennan
Shane Peacock
Wade Redden
Jamie Rivers
Chad Denny
Kyle Chipchura
Carey Price
Theoren Fleury
Darcy Tucker
Cody McCormick
Vernon Fiddler
K.C. Timmons
Rich Pilon
Brandon Smith
Arron Asham
D.J. King
Wacey Rabbit
Colton Yellowhorn
Robin Big Snake
Rene Bourque
Darren Reid
Jon Mirasty
Lance Monych
Brandon Nolan
Rocky Thompson
Scott Ferguson
Brad Leeb
Greg Leeb
Mike Lalonde
Reggie Leach
Gino Odjick
Joey Tetarenko
Mike Peluso
T.J. Oshie
Henry Boucha
Gary Sargent
Sandy McCarthy
Denny Lambert
Dody Wood
Everett Sanipass
Adam Courchaine


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06-23-2008, 07:35 PM
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How many are there? Or how many in the history of the NHL?

As far as my research tells me, the few Native American players that suited up for the NHL were Jonathan Cheechoo (50goal scorer), Chris Simon, Stan Jonathan and Reggie Leach (50goal scorer). Am I correct? Am I missing anyone?
What exactly is a native American? Is there a minimum number of generations - or perhaps years - that one's ancestors must have been here in America for one to qualify as a native American?

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What exactly is a native American? Is there a minimum number of generations - or perhaps years - that one's ancestors must have been here in America for one to qualify as a native American?
I was about to ask that same question. Does somebody count if they are one quarter native? Apparently Darcy Tucker is.

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For those who may be interested, here's wikipedia's explanation:

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The Inuit Circumpolar Council, a United Nations-recognised non-governmental organization (NGO), defines its constituency to include Canada's Inuit and Inuvialuit, Greenland's Kalaallit Inuit, Alaska's Inupiat and Yup'ik people, and the Siberian Yupik people of Russia.[5] However, the Yupik of Alaska and Siberia are not Inuit, and the Yupik languages are linguistically distinct from the Inuit languages.[4] Yupik people are not considered to be Inuit either by themselves or by ethnographers, and prefer to be called Yupik or Eskimo.

Canadian Inuit do not consider themselves, and are not usually considered by others, to be one of the First Nations, a term which normally applies to other indigenous peoples in Canada.[6] However, Inuit (and the Métis) are collectively recognised by the Constitution Act, 1982 as Aboriginal peoples in Canada.

The Inuit should not be confused with the Innu, a distinct First Nations people who live in northeastern Quebec and Labrador.

Some of the Inuit dialects were recorded in the 18th century, but until the latter half of the 20th century, most were not able to read and write in their own language. In the 1760s, Moravian missionaries arrived in Greenland, where they contributed to the development of a written system of language called Qaliujaaqpait, based on the Latin alphabet. The missionaries later brought this system to Labrador, from which it eventually spread as far as Alaska.

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I know that Sheldon Souray is a candian native.

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Any updates to this thread?


Dan Hinote - Cherokee on his father's side. Name was changed from Highnote to Hinote to appear more European.

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And his son Jordan Nolan of the Los Angeles Kings. Here's Jordan with mom and dad.


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If anyone is interested in this sort of thing, I'd highly recommend a book called "They Call Me Chief", by Don Marks, about many of the famous NHLers who are Native or half Native. The book comes with a DVD that serves as an interesting bio for some major Native players (Trottier, Johnathan, Neilson, Saskamoose and Nolan are the main focus). The book goes into greater detail than the DVD does on some of the players.

Off the top of my head: Johnathan Cheechoo, Jordin Tootoo, Jordan Nolan, Ted Nolan, Reggie Leach, George Armstrong, Jim Neilson, Stan Johnathan, Bryan Trottier, Fred Saskamoose (who was the first Native to ever play the game, for the Blackhawks, ironically), Theo Fleuy and Henry Boucha (who wore a native headband when he played, being a full Blood Ojibwe, and is also related to T.J. Oshie - they are second cousins.)

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true enough, just easier as African-American
Just Canadian is even easier, people don't even know how racist they are.

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