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Is Pacioretty Expendable?

View Poll Results: Is Pacioretty Expendable?
Yes 9 6.62%
For a superstar only 61 44.85%
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06-19-2008, 08:21 PM
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True, but we are a lot closer to being a contender. Then we are to being considered still in the rebuilding mode.
I thought the philosophy was returning to the old Habs dynasties days where we build through the draft and trade the older established talent to make room for younger, cheaper talent and keep that constant flow?

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06-19-2008, 08:26 PM
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I thought the philosophy was returning to the old Habs dynasties days where we build through the draft and trade the older established talent to make room for younger, cheaper talent and keep that constant flow?
Well considering that Gainey and other Habs management has been talking for the last couple of seasons about obtaining that one big star player. They may be looking to bend that philosophy just a little bit.

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I thought the philosophy was returning to the old Habs dynasties days where we build through the draft and trade the older established talent to make room for younger, cheaper talent and keep that constant flow?
Make this man the assistant GM to Bob Gainey..........

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Make this man the assistant GM to Bob Gainey..........
lol..don't give WTK that kind of power. The first thing he'd do would be to try and fire Carbo.

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lol..don't give WTK that kind of power. The first thing he'd do would be to try and fire Carbo.
Haha, that's true.

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lol..don't give WTK that kind of power. The first thing he'd do would be to try and fire Carbo.
And rename the team "The Montreal CanadiAns"

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06-19-2008, 08:37 PM
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And rename the team "The Montreal CanadiAns"
We both know you mean that. Even though it's founded in false claims that you can not back up.

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Don't trade him he's the next Erik Cole!

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06-19-2008, 09:13 PM
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lol..don't give WTK that kind of power. The first thing he'd do would be to try and fire Carbo.
Ok no power to WTK...........but it sure is nice to hear this instead of the nonsense talk about trading our top prospects for more prospects..........that talk is nonsense to me.

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So, Higgins+Pacioretty+1st for Gaborik/Jokinen = ?

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06-19-2008, 09:19 PM
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So, Higgins+Pacioretty+1st for Gaborik/Jokinen = ?
Does to me

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I said for a superstar only. He hasn't proven anything yet, except he's a good NCAA player. I want him to be a good NHL player before I say no trade! I think Pacioretty will turn out well however. I'd like to be getting a player similar to him back if we did deal him: tough, and goes to the net. It's not exactly something the habs have an abundance of.

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06-19-2008, 09:26 PM
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You don't see teams trading their best prospect very often.

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06-19-2008, 09:28 PM
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You don't see teams trading their best prospect very often.
True, the only one I can think of off hand was Dallas trading Iginla to Calgary.

Edit: Or Carolina trading Jack Johnson to LA. Different situation, but Johnson was considered the Canes top prospect at the time.


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Ok no power to WTK...........but it sure is nice to hear this instead of the nonsense talk about trading our top prospects for more prospects..........that talk is nonsense to me.
Yeah that does bother me too. I'm more interested in the Habs going forward, than making a sideways move.

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You don't see teams trading their best prospect very often.
Jarome Iginla #12 Right Wing Calgary Flames
Height: 6-1 Weight: 205
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Born: Jul 1, 1977 - Edmonton, Alberta
Draft: 1995 - 1st round (11th overall) by the Dallas Stars

96-97 season, Jarome played for Calgary. It wasn't long after that Bob won the cup with Dallas. All im saying is that if Bob thinks he can make the big push and wants to put all his chips in, would you guys be upset to see him leave? It seems like a pretty tight poll, about half/half. Alot of mixed feelings about letting him leave.

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Jarome Iginla #12 Right Wing Calgary Flames
Height: 6-1 Weight: 205
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Born: Jul 1, 1977 - Edmonton, Alberta
Draft: 1995 - 1st round (11th overall) by the Dallas Stars

96-97 season, Jarome played for Calgary. It wasn't long after that Bob won the cup with Dallas. All im saying is that if Bob thinks he can make the big push and wants to put all his chips in, would you guys be upset to see him leave? It seems like a pretty tight poll, about half/half. Alot of mixed feelings about letting him leave.
Yes I think we are all aware that Iginla was traded, that's why I said very often.

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True, the only one I can think of off hand was Dallas trading Iginla to Calgary.
Just happens to be our very own GM who did it. Joe Nieuwendyk had to have abit more than a PPG playing for Calgary before the trade, maybe some similarities to Gaborik perhaps?

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Just happens to be our very own GM who did it. Joe Nieuwendyk had to have abit more than a PPG playing for Calgary before the trade, maybe some similarities to Gaborik perhaps?
Yes that proves that Gainey will pull the trigger and give up a top prospect if he feels his team is in a position to challenge. It would be sad to see MaxPac go, but if the situation turns out the way it did for Dallas. I could live with that.

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Not yet... We need to wait till he wins the Jack Adams.
He is not good enough.

After that he can only go down... Unless he is like Bowman and Gainey is Pollock.

BTW, do you know that Bowman is still in the Wings organization.
lol..it doesn't matter what award is given to Carbo, WTK would still try to fire him if he was incharge. Personally I think he's doing a good job, and he's gotten a lot better. Which is all you can hope for in a young coach.

Yeah he is, as a consultant I believe, I'm not sure what his official title is off hand.

Edit: Oh by the way, the picture in your avatar makes me want to go on vacation.

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Bob says he's aiming short term. This isn't a long term project anymore. He feels we're a couple of players away from winning it all. What if another GM wants our top prospect, who I personally feel is Pacioretty. Big, skilled, tough- just like Bob didn't hesitate to trade Iginla for final pieces, would he trade away Pacioretty? (Don't assume I think Pacioretty=Iginla...)

So how do you guys feel about Max; is he expendable or do we stay away from anything that involves him going the other way?

Edit: Realize when I say superstar only, you have to take into account exactly what 'superstars' are being shopped. Example, Jokinen? Gaborik?
Latendresse, Lapierre, Chipchura and some others before MacPac.

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I'd hold on to him. Hate to risk trading such a promising prospect.

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Latendresse, Lapierre, Chipchura and some others before MacPac.
Teams don't want second/third round prospects for a superstar. This isn't NHL 08; and for Bob this year I think its go big or go home.

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He has been a contender to the Jack Adams. A legit one.

BTW, I am a consultant.
Have been for >20 years.
>10 years independant consultant (less politics).
So basically, I am a mercenary but I choose my Pimp!

Oh I agree, getting a nomination for the Jack Adams has definitely helped to legitimize Carbo's credentials.

lol...being an independant consultant would be much better. Kind of like me running my own business. You still work very hard, but you can definitely choose your own pimp.

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Keep the youg guys, I don't want to live the 90 again. Ok 93 was good but after that it was a mess.

Max Pac will be a treat every night, don't trade him please.

But you can trade Bulis V2.

And the only award i want the habs to win is the Stanley Cup, more then once!


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