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06-20-2008, 08:40 AM
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Reported on NHL.com that St. Louis has traded Mayers to the Leafs for the Leafs 2008 3rd round pick, 70th overall.

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06-20-2008, 08:43 AM
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I can think of 3 reasons why not...like I said I like the player but maybe he was not the fit here...

1-they already have Begin Lapierre Kotsopoulos Chipchura and Stewart in that mold so why trade a pick for a slight upgrade on Lappy and Chips.
Mayers is better than any of these guys.

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06-20-2008, 08:46 AM
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Mayers is better than any of these guys.
Yeah, but he is not a ton better than guys like Lappy and Chips. If they wanted a crash banging 3rd line then he'd fit.

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06-20-2008, 08:47 AM
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Mayers is better than any of these guys.
Lapierre and Chipchura can be measured differently, I guess as they're in a different place on thye dev. curve, but Mayers is a better fit on a certain type of line than Begin,Kots., imo.

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06-20-2008, 09:14 AM
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he would have looked great on Habs' 3rd line, exactly what the Habs needed IMO

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06-20-2008, 09:20 AM
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He's a career minus-78. Even on a bad team, that's pretty bad.

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06-20-2008, 09:24 AM
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Honestly, why wouldn't Bob have made a move for this guy?

Looking at the two playoff series we played this was exactly the type of player we could have used.

Please Bob, be more aggressive!
Bob acquires people like Begin, Kostopolous for free.. that's why

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06-20-2008, 09:25 AM
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Agreed, I always liked Mayers. He has a bit of my user name's game in him.
Man, the Habs could use players in the Mike McPhee, Brian Skrudland mold right now.

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06-20-2008, 09:38 AM
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Strange trade for a team needing to rebuild. I think he would have been a good fit on the Habs though, he can play center or wing and is not afraid to get his nose dirty...a bit more skilled version of Kotsopoulos.
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06-20-2008, 10:02 AM
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Good pickup by the Leafs. We could have really used a player like Mayers in the playoffs last year. Hell, we could use players like him at any time.. c'mon BG.. don't ice a team that gets pushed around again.

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06-20-2008, 10:12 AM
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Good pickup by the Leafs. We could have really used a player like Mayers in the playoffs last year. Hell, we could use players like him at any time.. c'mon BG.. don't ice a team that gets pushed around again.
I think we over play the pushed around thing, but it might be nice to do some pushing.

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06-20-2008, 10:13 AM
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HAHAHAHA.....good way to start the re-building process....trade for a 33 year old, 3rd-4th line player who has done basically nothing in the NHL.....LOL.

GO LEAFS GO......HAHAHAHAHAHA

Does it ever feel good to be a Habs fan and not a Leafs fan!!!!

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06-20-2008, 10:41 AM
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And so its started, Toronto giving away (again) draft choices and making sure they stay far far away from the Cup...
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06-20-2008, 10:43 AM
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i don't get this. I seriously don't. 3 rounders are not that valuable, but they are still more valuable that old guys that are a dime a dozen and that can't really contribute to a team that is going nowhere.

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06-20-2008, 10:59 AM
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Sneaking into 7th or 8th place to make the playoffs won't fix the huge problems that franchise has. As long as they don't stop trading away draft picks and drafting poorly they will continue to be an NHL doormat.
Sneaking into 7th or 8th is a good start, though. Trading away 3rd round picks for effective NHLers is only going to help them.
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They have to take a step back to take 2 forward, that also includes buying out or trading a few fat cat veterans and letting Sundin walk...though he may walk anyways, from what I hear he is not keen on coming back or taking a home town discount. They need to ADD early picks, not trade them away.
I guess that's just a populist theory that I don't subscribe to. Now granted, I think the upper management in Toronto is mixed up enough that they'll probably manage to mess things up there, perhaps almost perpetually. However, I don't think that's a generalizable situation. They don't have to buy out or deep-six good players or rebuild exclusively through the draft in order to be a top NHL franchise. There are many options at the disposal of teams these days. And picking 7th this year, they really ought to land a top-notch talent. That plus smarts in other areas would be fine, without any need for a scorched-earth style rebuild. But fortunately they've shown little aptitude for being capable of demonstrating the requisite smarts in any approach, be it a mixed bag or scorched earth. Tanking and rebuilding from the ground up with draft picks is only more painful and prone to epic failure when the smarts aren't there. Sneaking into 7th or 8th could seem like nirvana in comparison.

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06-20-2008, 11:11 AM
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Sneaking into 7th or 8th is a good start, though. Trading away 3rd round picks for effective NHLers is only going to help them.

I guess that's just a populist theory that I don't subscribe to. Now granted, I think the upper management in Toronto is mixed up enough that they'll probably manage to mess things up there, perhaps almost perpetually. However, I don't think that's a generalizable situation. They don't have to buy out or deep-six good players or rebuild exclusively through the draft in order to be a top NHL franchise. There are many options at the disposal of teams these days. And picking 7th this year, they really ought to land a top-notch talent. That plus smarts in other areas would be fine, without any need for a scorched-earth style rebuild. But fortunately they've shown little aptitude for being capable of demonstrating the requisite smarts in any approach, be it a mixed bag or scorched earth. Tanking and rebuilding from the ground up with draft picks is only more painful and prone to epic failure when the smarts aren't there. Sneaking into 7th or 8th could seem like nirvana in comparison.
There are other ways to add players like UFA's, but you are not going to build a team just with UFA's especially when you are a bottom feeding team because you'll have to pay for UFA's as they usually have 5-6 teams after them.

Their organisation is one of the worst in terms of 25 and under talent in the NHL, until they fix that they are going nowhere.

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06-20-2008, 11:20 AM
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There are other ways to add players like UFA's, but you are not going to build a team just with UFA's especially when you are a bottom feeding team because you'll have to pay for UFA's as they usually have 5-6 teams after them.

Their organisation is one of the worst in terms of 25 and under talent in the NHL, until they fix that they are going nowhere.
We agree to disagree.

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Their organisation is one of the worst in terms of 25 and under talent in the NHL, until they fix that they are going nowhere.
Right. The more players you can get from your farm, the more you can afford to overpay for the right UFA when the time comes.

The Habs had how many players under 23 on their active roster? And they finished 1st in the East? They can now afford a superstar to take them over the hump.

The Leafs are now in the "pre-Savard/Timmins Habs" years. We'll see if their drafting gets them out of the basement, or keeps them hovering at mediocrity.

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06-20-2008, 11:32 AM
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It just doesn't make sense. They should be getting younger.

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06-20-2008, 11:38 AM
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It just doesn't make sense. They should be getting younger.
Shhh! Don't give them any ideas! Besides, 33 is very young. Compared to Fletcher.

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06-20-2008, 01:33 PM
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OT: What's up in Toronto?
First they bring back Cliff Fletcher and now Cito Gaston?

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give more picks away cliff,

that is cliff's way

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OT: What's up in Toronto?
First they bring back Cliff Fletcher and now Cito Gaston?
Come on Isiah Thomas, we're waiting.

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So...4th liner Chad Kilger gets traded because he can fetch a 3rd round draft pick because the Leafs need to accumulate draft picks because the Leafs are rebuilding...but the Leafs need a 4th liner now so they trade their extra pick.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I've decided to apply for the position of GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs. My qualifications are that I know how to work a phone.

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