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Round 4, pick #111 - Rangers select RW Dale Weise (Swift Current, WHL)

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06-21-2008, 12:00 PM
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That's more than I can say about any of these kids. I hope you're right! (After all I do root for the team.)

I just look at the numbers, see the age and at least on paper am not convinced.
Yeah, but numbers are not everything.

Ryan Hillier had very mediocre numbers and he's impressed everyone every year.

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Oh god I always hear that. Next years draft is deeper. Then on draft day everyone says its crap and the next years is deeper. Please, all drafts are the same, they are all crapshoots.

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06-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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Oh god I always hear that. Next years draft is deeper. Then on draft day everyone says its crap and the next years is deeper. Please, all drafts are the same, they are all crapshoots.
that's a good point..

although i think last years draft was supposed to be the weakest in sometime..i'm curious if the rangers have anything of good beyond Cherepanov....

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06-21-2008, 08:44 PM
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The kid's almost 20 and not exactly dominating his league. Puzzled by this move more than any other so far.
maybe he will be signed and will end up in hartford this year.

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06-21-2008, 09:15 PM
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I like this little tidbit from NHL.com:

4 111 NYR
(from NYR)
DALE WEISE Aug 5, 1988 WINNIPEG, MB CA 6' 2" 206 WHL SWIFT CURRENT RW

We made a trade with ourselves

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Oh god I always hear that. Next years draft is deeper. Then on draft day everyone says its crap and the next years is deeper. Please, all drafts are the same, they are all crapshoots.
I don't know if next year is to be deeper overall but I know there is expected to be alot of top end talent (1st round). There are more franchise type players highlighted by Taveres....the next Crosby.

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06-21-2008, 10:03 PM
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http://www.scbroncos.com/players.php...irectory_id=16


well we did get owen wilsons twin

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hahaha thats so true, except this guys nose isnt as messed up

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that's a good point..

although i think last years draft was supposed to be the weakest in sometime..i'm curious if the rangers have anything of good beyond Cherepanov....
Hagelin is the only player I really thought had a strong (rookie) season at UMich. Hope he continues to improve.

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'Weasel' isn't a Center, he's a RW

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hoping jonathan is right here as i have liked all the picks so far in this draft up to here....im sure the scouts saw somethng that isnt reflective in his numbers...although one thing he does add to the organization is size....(anyone see a pattern?)....im at least glad sather is moving around....at least makes it seem like he has done his homework and has a gameplan

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Not a huge fan of this pick.

He seems like an AHL depth player to me.

I've watched him for a few years and he's a pretty average WHL player, let alone anything higher.

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06-22-2008, 08:51 PM
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Not a huge fan of this pick.

He seems like an AHL depth player to me.

I've watched him for a few years and he's a pretty average WHL player, let alone anything higher.
I've been wondering why the team game up any assests to draft him. It seems like he's the kind've player who could've just been signed as a FA after finishing his CHL career.

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Just gotta shake my head at some of these picks.

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From the NHL Draft Notes blog:

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Dale Weise: Another '88 with a breakthrough season. Scouts like to see players pick up their game in the playoffs, and Weise definitely did that. Good combination of size, ruggedness, and goal scoring. Another wild card that was little talked about. Could go anywhere after the 3rd round.

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Reserving my judgment on this pick. Sounds like a low-risk / high reward asset and could fill a hole on this team if he comes around.

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Not a huge fan of this pick.

He seems like an AHL depth player to me.

I've watched him for a few years and he's a pretty average WHL player, let alone anything higher.
I disagree, Edge. He improved his game a lot over the year. He's never going to be a top 2 line player. But I definitely see Weise in the NHL as a bottom 6-er. He's got enough talent, but the drive in him will bring him there.

To me, he looks as determined as Dale Purinton was when he first came up. Yeah, you can all laugh at that, but anyone who saw him play his first few games or in the minors knows how tough he worked to get there.

Granted, after that it didn't seem like he cared much anymore.

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I disagree, Edge. He improved his game a lot over the year. He's never going to be a top 2 line player. But I definitely see Weise in the NHL as a bottom 6-er. He's got enough talent, but the drive in him will bring him there.

To me, he looks as determined as Dale Purinton was when he first came up. Yeah, you can all laugh at that, but anyone who saw him play his first few games or in the minors knows how tough he worked to get there.

Granted, after that it didn't seem like he cared much anymore.
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I disagree, Edge. He improved his game a lot over the year. He's never going to be a top 2 line player. But I definitely see Weise in the NHL as a bottom 6-er. He's got enough talent, but the drive in him will bring him there.

To me, he looks as determined as Dale Purinton was when he first came up. Yeah, you can all laugh at that, but anyone who saw him play his first few games or in the minors knows how tough he worked to get there.

Granted, after that it didn't seem like he cared much anymore.
The thing is Dale was also a guy who got there because he was a crazy, nasty SOB.

I just don't see that here. I don't really see his offense being enough, I don't think he's going to cut it as a fighter/agitator/checker type and I just really don't see that one element that says "NHLer".

Even the guys who worked their tails off to make it had at least one thing that they could do at the NHL level. I just don't see that here.

Most NHL fourth liners fall into one of two categories - they are either fighters or they guys who were pretty good junior players.

Weise to me was pretty average and looked like countless other guys I've seen in juniors.

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From Keen's Korner:

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Dale Wiese - 4th round, 111th overall, NY Rangers

The Swift Current Broncos saw their best power forward on the team selected by the New York Rangers Saturday.

The Rangers had to trade up to get the pick so they could take Wiese.

They wasted no time in getting Dale to New York, he flew out the next day for a prospects camp and fitness testing.

I spoke to Rangers Chief Scout Jim Hammett on their 4th round pick. Here's some of his comments.

" We liked his improvement over last year. He figured out how to use that big frame and our hopes is that he turns into a power forward and keeps his snarl and ends up being a tough physical guy for us.

We're going to bring him into our development camp and assess him there. It will be up to him whether he goes back to the Swift Current Broncos our joins our organization next year.

As an organization we like him, and when you like a player you go after him and that's what we did (trading up in the 4th round)"


I got a hold of Dale Wiese in his New York hotel yesterday after a grueling day of fitness testing and two hour on-ice session. He was thrilled to be a part of it all.

" I talked to probably 15 teams and I didn't know the interest of the Rangers. I got the call thinking it was my agent to tell my not to worry that I would get my chance eventually here... as soon as I picked up the phone I saw my name come up... it was a shock.

(laughs) They called me 12:30 Saturday when I got drafted and told me I had to be on a plane the next morning at 7am. I flew from Winnipeg to St. Paul and then onto New York. I got picked up from the airport and went right to their training facility. It's unbelievable, probably the nicest facility in the NHL. We did some fitness testing in the morning, and then we skated for a two hours. We have the same schedule all week it looks like.

I would love to play in the American League this year but whatever the Rangers feel is best for me, if I go back to junior and play in Swift Current it would be another great opportunity, it's been the best three years of my life. Hopefully though I get a chance to play in the Rangers system and make the most of it."
FWIW, in the same blog, Dean Chynworth, the Swift GM, doesn't expect Dale to return to the Current. If this kid has any chance, getting in with org right away will be key.


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Here's an interview from The Prospect Park the Swift Current's play by play guy Jon Keen (Keen's Korner).

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Ranger fans will get excited about Dale Wiese because he will play any way you want him to. You want up and down game with skill, you want a physical grinding game in the corners, a physical affair he will play it. You want to drop the gloves so will Dale, it is a very rare player who can play any way you want to play the game.

That is a skill that so few player have and if you want to get excited about a player there is Dale Wiese. He is a player who can play straight up or go any way you want to go.

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Kid is sounding more and more like Ryan Malone.

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Kid is sounding more and more like Ryan Malone.
Just wait, by August he'll be comparable to a young Shanahan

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Just wait, by August he'll be comparable to a young Shanahan
just wait, by friday jorts will be calling for him to start on the 4th line over hollweeg...

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Just wait, by August he'll be comparable to a young Shanahan
Oh no, now you've jinxed him. I'm trying to keep my expectations low here.

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just wait, by friday jorts will be calling for him to start on the 4th line over hollweeg...


Almost a sure thing.

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