Alright here are our prospects going into the 07/08 season. What I will do as the season goes along is update how each prospect performs on a month to month bases.
Bingo Prospects
Josh Hennessy, C http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=61462
Will be the Sens first call up if any injuries happen to the forwards, may break camp on the Sens fourth line. If he plays in Bingo for a substantial amount of time will lead the team in scoring.
Nick Foligno, W http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00080212
I think he breaks camp on the Sens fourth line. Brings a very physical game and has some offensive talent, stepped up huge this past season in the OHL playoffs. If he does not make the Sens out of camp will be looked upon as a call up, I think the second choice behind Hennessy.
Shawn Weller, LW http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00078678
Should spend the entire season in Bingo for developmental purposes. A future third liner of the Sens, is a few years away.
Kaspars Daugavins, LW http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00095372
Has a chance to play in the AHL as a 19 year old, already signed his entry level contract. If he plays in the AHL will have a chance to play a role on a offensive line. A good developing season in Bingo could pave the way to a call up in the 08/09 season.
Alexander Nikulin, C http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00078680
Nikulin has signed his entry level contract and will be coming to NA this season. If he plays for Bingo will play on a second/third line and play PK minutes. Is a few years away from cracking the Sens but when he does will be a solid bottom six forward.
Cody Bass, C http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=76771
No doubt one day Bass will be playing in Ottawa as one of the main checkers and PK players. Has lots of leadership qualities as well. This season he will be looked upon as one of the dressing room leaders in Bingo and he will bring a solid defensive game. At the same time he will be working on developing his offensive game.
Arttu Luttinen, W http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00064541
I read he may be going back to Finland. So he may not play in Bingo.
Brian Lee, D http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00083000
Lee will lead Bingo defense in ice time, run the PP and may see some time in Ottawa when injuries hit the defense. Will be groomed to take the next step in the 08/09 season.
Tomas Kudelka, D http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00076021
Had a solid season in the WHL. Plays a very good two-way game. Will challenge Lee for the lead in Bingo ice time among defensemen. Has been developing rapidly since being drafted. Will play in Ottawa one day.
Michal Barinka, D http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00063008
Barinkas future is that of a solid stay at home defenseman. Will be returning back to Bingo this season and will be looked upon to add stability to the PK. Has already played 34 games in the NHL so may get a call up to Ottawa.
Mattias Karlsson, D http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00070735
Karlsson led Bofors IK of the Swedish 1 league in scoring as a 21 year old defenseman. He looks to come over to NA and bring a two-way game. The Sens will watch him develop this season and reassess his future then.
Dimitri Megalinsky, D http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=77376
A defensive defenseman.
Brian Elliott, G http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00072686
After a decorated NCAA career will look to bring the same success to the AHL level. A very technical goal with superb skills. A year or two away from a spot in Ottawa.
Jeff Glass
AHL backup this season
CHL/NCAA prospects
Jim O'Brien, C http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00097817
Was the youngest player in college hockey last season. Showed a very good offensive game when relied upon for his team. (He had to step up for his team when the WJC was held because Minnesota lost many players during that three week stretch to team USA.) If he stays the entire four years in college will be 21 years old when he finishes. That’s pretty cool, has lots of time to develop.
Ryan Daniels, G http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=82706
First season as a starter in the OHL, posted a 38-18-3 record with a .907sv%. He will look to improve upon those numbers this season. A dark horse candidate for Team Canada at the WJC.
Pierre-Luc Lessard http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00080458
Had a strong sophomore season for PEI of the QMJHL. Look to improve upon his offensive game and refine his defensive game this season.
Russia/Europe
Igor Mirnov, W http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00063734
Will continue to be the Dynamos star for one more season as he signed a one year extension with thm earlier this summer. Has a lethal wrist shot and plays a strong NA type game. I can’t wait till he comes over but another year in Russia won’t hurt.
Ilya Zubov, C http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00087904
Has been compared to Datsyuk. When I have seen him has shown great speed and dazzling play making skills. Hopefully plays an offensive role in the RSL this year and then comes to NA next season.
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I may have missed a few prospects from this up coming season but as the season begins and I start updating how the players are doing I will be sure to add them in.
With the other thread reaching 999 posts on the day of the draft, where we'll be adding more prospects to our stable, it seemed like the right time to create this thread. I copied Fuhr's post from the main page, since most of the links will still be relevant.
Below is the link to the last thread, which had great discussion on a lot of our prospects.
Petersson is a one-dimensional offensive player. A magician with the puck with plenty of slick moves in his repertoire. He loves to challenge the opposing defenseman and is good one-one-one. Petersson is a natural scorer, but at the same time delivers crisp passes. The only knock here, is that he sometimes is a bit too puck happy, and should pass more. What makes him even tougher to stop, is the fact that he is an above average skater with good acceleration and agility.
The major knock on Petersson is his defensive game, work ethic and consistency. He does not really care to back-check and is always focused on contributing offensively instead. Also, if he could bring his A game each night, he would be able to be an even more productive player. In the Swedish junior league, Petersson at times was outstanding, only to be invisible in the next game. Sometimes he does not seem to be inspired and hangs with his head. When on top of the game, however, he is a player that can do the unexpected and win a game for his team. Enormous potential.
Petersson is a one-dimensional offensive player. A magician with the puck with plenty of slick moves in his repertoire. He loves to challenge the opposing defenseman and is good one-one-one. Petersson is a natural scorer, but at the same time delivers crisp passes. The only knock here, is that he sometimes is a bit too puck happy, and should pass more. What makes him even tougher to stop, is the fact that he is an above average skater with good acceleration and agility.
The major knock on Petersson is his defensive game, work ethic and consistency. He does not really care to back-check and is always focused on contributing offensively instead. Also, if he could bring his A game each night, he would be able to be an even more productive player. In the Swedish junior league, Petersson at times was outstanding, only to be invisible in the next game. Sometimes he does not seem to be inspired and hangs with his head. When on top of the game, however, he is a player that can do the unexpected and win a game for his team. Enormous potential.
Does that sound like a young Havlat to anyone else? (Though Havlat's a much better skater than "above average")
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1. Nick Foligno, LW
2. Brian Lee, D
3. Ilya Zubov, C
4. Kaspars Daugavins, LW
5. Josh Hennessy, C
6. Jim O'Brien, C
7. Brian Elliott, G
8. Peter Regin, C
9. Alexander Nikulin, C
10. Igor Mirnov, C
11. Kirill Lyamin, D
12. Ruslan Bashkirov, LW
13. Tomas Kudelka, D
14. Erik Condra, RW
15. Louie Caporusso, C
16. Cody Bass, C
17. Vitaly Anikeyenko, D
18. Shawn Weller, LW
19. Jeff Glass, G
20. Ben Blood, D
Just for fun put our prospects in. Who makes the list and who goes out of our 7 new prospects...
1. Nick Foligno, LW
2. Brian Lee, D
3. Ilya Zubov, C
4. Kaspars Daugavins, LW
5. Josh Hennessy, C
6. Jim O'Brien, C
7. Brian Elliott, G
8. Peter Regin, C
9. Alexander Nikulin, C
10. Igor Mirnov, C
11. Kirill Lyamin, D
12. Ruslan Bashkirov, LW
13. Tomas Kudelka, D
14. Erik Condra, RW
15. Louie Caporusso, C
16. Cody Bass, C
17. Vitaly Anikeyenko, D
18. Shawn Weller, LW
19. Jeff Glass, G
20. Ben Blood, D
Just for fun put our prospects in. Who makes the list and who goes out of our 7 new prospects...
Probably about three of them get into the list. That's usually around how many from the most current draft tend to get into the top 20 list.
I probably have Lee ahead of Karlsson, ahead of Foligno, Petersson above Mirnov, and Weircioch around Kudelka.
But keep in mind I really don't know much about our new prospects.
I don't understand how Foligno was ever ranked higher than Lee. A potential top pairing defenseman is much better than a guy whose top end potential has always been second line forward, and even that's debateable.
Mine:
1. Brian Lee
2. Jim O'Brien
3. Erik Karlsson
4. Brian Elliott
5. Nick Foligno
6. Peter Regin
7. Kaspars Daugavins
8. Alexander Nikulin
9. Josh Hennessy
10. Cody Bass
11. Ilya Zubov
12. Patrick Wiercioch
13. Louie Caporusso
14. Erik Condra
15. Ben Blood
16. Igor Mirnov
17. Tomas Kudelka
18. Kirill Lyamin
19. Andre Petersson
20. Vitali Anikeyenko
I don't know much about the new guys so just placed them in there.
I don't understand how Foligno was ever ranked higher than Lee. A potential top pairing defenseman is much better than a guy whose top end potential has always been second line forward, and even that's debateable.
Mine:
1. Brian Lee
2. Jim O'Brien
3. Erik Karlsson
4. Brian Elliott
5. Nick Foligno
6. Peter Regin
7. Kaspars Daugavins
8. Alexander Nikulin
9. Josh Hennessy
10. Cody Bass
11. Ilya Zubov
12. Patrick Wiercioch
13. Louie Caporusso
14. Erik Condra
15. Ben Blood
16. Igor Mirnov
17. Tomas Kudelka
18. Kirill Lyamin
19. Andre Petersson
20. Vitali Anikeyenko
I don't know much about the new guys so just placed them in there.
From the lists he's done since he took over from Sean, Derek seems to like putting the most NHL ready prospect(in his eyes) in the number 1 spot.
He did that with Hennessy, and then with Foligno.
You may not agree(and I'm with you), but hey, that's why we all have different opinions and lists.
I don't really feel comfortable with the Russian players (other than Zubov and Nikulin) on that list due to lack of any news at all about them wanting to play here.
André Petersson is a really intriguing prospects. Hopefully the can get him down in Bingo for a few seasons and give him great coaching and support. If the team can turn him into a hard working, motivated player, there would be no stopping him.
Weller is certainly bumped out. Maybe Glass as well.
I'd personally take guys like Anikeyenko, Lyamin, et. out as there's no indication they'll ever come to North America.
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1. Brian Lee
2. Jim O'Brien
3. Erik Karlsson
4. Brian Elliott
5. Nick Foligno
6. Peter Regin
7. Kaspars Daugavins
8. Alexander Nikulin
9. Josh Hennessy
10. Cody Bass
11. Ilya Zubov
12. Patrick Wiercioch
13. Louie Caporusso
14. Erik Condra
15. Ben Blood
16. Igor Mirnov
17. Tomas Kudelka
18. Kirill Lyamin
19. Andre Petersson
20. Vitali Anikeyenko
That looks pretty good. Also, It's probably a better group than many people give it credit for.
1. Erik Karlsson
2. Patrick Weircioch (pronounciation?)
3. Zack Smith
4.a Andre Petersson
4.b Derek Grant
5. Mark Boroweiki
7. Not yet picked, edit later.
Can anyone give me any details on them all? I have lots of Karlsson and Smih, im more interested in the 2nd rounder and Petersson
Patrick Weircioch
He will attend university of wisconsin. It is not decided if he will attend in 08 or 09.
He was playing in the USHL for omaha. He had a broken thumb putting him on the sideline for 6 weeks before they decided it was badly repaired and he needed surgery again seating him 6 more weeks. The reason he was one of the fastest raising player in the rankings ( more than 40 spots in the Central scouting) is that after he came back from this long period he adapted really fast and concluded his year really strong being one of the best player for his team on the way to the USHL title. (11 points in 14 games including 3 in the final game)
He is one of the youngest player of the draft being born 4 days before the deadline making him under 18. He is still growing:
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“I am 6-4, 6-4 ½ maybe and 180 is pretty accurate,” he laughed. “Still growing strong both ways now, which is good because I have only grown one way before….I stretched myself pretty good, now I am just trying to get wide.”
Scouting reports:
him -> “I think after going to the USHL I went from being more of an offensive defenseman to a two-way,” Wiercioch said like a pro. “I know my strengths as an individual are definitely offensive but I think that’s where I am most gifted. That’s where I can use my talent the most, on the power play. I try to find open guys and make players around me better. The style of play that the USHL had to offer kind of forced me to work on my defensive game in my own zone. I think by making that move I kind of rounded myself more as an individual.”
NHL Central Scouting’s Jack Barzee
“Patrick, a smart player with excellent hands, was used heavily on the power-play in Omaha. He needs to improve his skating and agility, but compensates with his ability to stick handle his way out of trouble. Improvement on his strength and development at University of Wisconsin should positively compliment his puck moving ability.”
Omaha Lancers head coach Mike Hastings
“Patrick, with his unique combination of hockey sense and size, has developed into one of the best all around defenseman in our league. As he matures physically you will see him develop into a dominant defenseman that can impact a game in many ways.”
He sounds like a true warrior. He attended the vancouver training camp last year and maintoba their affiliate signed him to a tryout contract at the end of this yuear so he was on their tablet. Really good depth guy and key player next year for bingo
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Zack is a complete hockey player. I really don't understand why he wasn't drafted already, he can do a little of everything. He's been the inspirational leader for the Broncos and it's no surprise he is wearing the "C" on his sweater. Smith is the type of guy that will score a goal, throw a big hit and then drop the gloves. The Broncos haven't had a legit tough guy in several years yet as one of their best players, Zack Smith has always been the guy to answer the bell. If he isn't drafted I seriously question what some teams are thinking.
What a breakout year for the big '88 centre. If he skated better, he could have gotten top 100 consideration. A wild card, but I think he'll go somewhere between the 4th to 6th rounds. Went to the Canucks camp last fall, but I don't think he'll need to wait for an invite this year - he should get picked.
I may have missed a few prospects from this up coming season but as the season begins and I start updating how the players are doing I will be sure to add them in.
Thanks for starting this thread again Fuhr. I love following the prospects, so if you're looking to add the missing players (and the 2008 draft class), here is who we should consider adding to the list:
Colin Greening (a personal favorite of mine)
Jesse Winchester
Derek Smith
Jim McKenzie
Matt McIlvane (Sens have until August 15th to sign him)
Roman Wick
Sergei Gimayev
John Wikner
I realize most of the prospects above are marginal - I think Greening, Winchester and Smith are definitely worth adding.
The Sens also still have the rights to Vitaly Atyushov, according to the Sens website, but with him being 28 or 29 years old, I think it's best to leave him off the list
We also need to delete Ryan Daniels and Pierre-Luc Lessard. The Sens lost their rights by not signing them on June 1st.
If you don't feel like adding them, I'll do it later.
I sent Metallurg Magnitogorsk an E-mail asking them the status of Igor Mirnov. When I hear back from them I will let you guys know what I hear.
How's your Russian?
Anyway's here's Ben Blood's stats for the year in the USHL, pretty good numbers. He's the only real meathead we have on the backend so things look alright.
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
2007-08 Des Moines Buccaneers USHL 11 0 7 7 17 -- -- -- -- --
2007-08 Indiana Ice USHL 46 10 6 16 83 4 1 2 3 14
Yes Blood will be playing in ND this year, the same team that made it to the NCAA Midwest finals last year. Beating a familiar Wisconsin Badgers team, home to another Sens prospect. They lost to BC though in the National Semi-Finals.
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Originally Posted by CodyBass
From the lists he's done since he took over from Sean, Derek seems to like putting the most NHL ready prospect(in his eyes) in the number 1 spot.
He did that with Hennessy, and then with Foligno.
You may not agree(and I'm with you), but hey, that's why we all have different opinions and lists.
Is he still writing for us? I just saw on the site that there was no listed writer, and instead an application to apply.
That's a shame. I found that Derek had pretty big shoes to fill, as, Sean had done such a great job for so long, but, he really put a lot of work into the role.
I'd encourage people to apply, especially if they have any type of journalistic background or aspirations. This site has really grown in terms of credibility, with the site being used as a resource for a lot of people in the industry.
If anyone gets the position locally, I think it wouldn't be hard to end up getting some air time on the Team 1200 in the coming year, especially when the rookie camp starts in Ottawa, or, even before the World Juniors, when they come here. They end up with a lot of air time to fill when the hockey season is on, and, being the local rep for site that has this much focus on prospects, if you contact the station, they may bring you for an interview, particularly some of their off-peak shows (Over the Edge, and the late night show that's run by their morning producer).
It's a fair degree of work. It's a lot more than just putting a random top 20 together. THere's a lot of research that goes on behind it. But, given how much of a passion it is for most people who visit this site, it's something that would be highly rewarding from a personal experience standpoint.
Anyway's here's Ben Blood's stats for the year in the USHL, pretty good numbers. He's the only real meathead we have on the backend so things look alright.
I quote myself only because it appears that Mark Borowiecki also appears to have meathead potential. Rumour has it that he won a fight against another player 3-4" bigger then him and 40lbs heavier. It's good knowing that there are two big lads back there that are capable of playing a bottom pair role in the future, and able to play it physically as well. We've got a lot of puck moving defencemen now, but none that can really bring the pain, or clear out the front of the net. Here's two potential guys that we can watch in the NCAA now.
