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Canucks 7th Round Selection - 191st overall - Morgan Clark, G, Red Deer

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06-22-2008, 01:57 AM
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This really pisses me off. I realize it's a 7th round pick but can't we at least pretend to keep things professional? If you want to do Ian Clark a favour bring his kid to rookie camp, don't waste a pick on him.
Agreed. Look at what Detroit does with their late round picks -- they use them, develop them, and often turn them into solid NHLers. Doing this is equivalent to the Canucks admitting defeat. It's stupid.

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06-22-2008, 03:00 AM
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Terrible terrible draft choice. He can't close his legs.
I thought it was Prab Rai that was from Surrey?

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It looks like he is the only player drafted from the Red Deer Rebels. Gee, I wonder why...

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Ron Delorme's take:

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Seventh Round 191. Morgan Clark, G, 5-11 160, Texas Red Deer, WHL: 38 GP 3.70 GAA .884 Sv% Central Scouting rank: 18th goalie in North America Projection: Depth goalie Delorme: "He is [Canuck goaltending coach] Ian Clark's kid. . . but we decided we wanted a goaltender at the time and he was the best goaltender available."
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...7-26666d645432

He has to be the least insightful person ever.

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06-22-2008, 08:16 PM
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Uh, wow. Isn't that quote exactly what another poster said his quote would be?

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06-22-2008, 09:12 PM
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Uh, wow. Isn't that quote exactly what another poster said his quote would be?
Yep, I remember someone saying that. I couldn't find the quote though.

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06-22-2008, 09:17 PM
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I couldn't find it either. Too many bloody threads.

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Yea, I remember someone saying that this pick was just the Canucks saying "we want a goalie, who's left?".

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Found it. Good call BES:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...k#post14510888

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Haha. Awesome.

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06-22-2008, 10:01 PM
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I'm not really sure why, but his comment re: Sauve "He's kind of a man right now" makes me chuckle...hmm.

Love the comments in that about Froshaug...Tomas Gradin is basically the guy who selected him. A bit like Artem Chubarov, but a better skater... SWEET!

Back to Clark...eegh. My least favorite pick, but I guess I should see him play before judging too harshly...

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Ron Delorme's take:



http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...7-26666d645432

He has to be the least insightful person ever.
Wow... the best goalie available not only isn't particularly big and has terrible numbers, but also just happens to be the goalie coach's kid by coincidence. Them odds are pretty staggering.

What an unjustifiable pick. I refuse to believe there wasn't one better goaltender available.

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Read into this post what you will, but thought I would remind everyone that Henrik Zetterberg & Martin Erat (1999) as well as Henrik Lundqvist (2000) are some of the best 7th round picks in recent draft years.

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OMG.

"personal info: Nickname ? Clarky; hobbies include playing sports; if he wasn?t playing hockey, he would be sleeping; favourite music ? rock; favourite TV show ? Prison Break ; favourite food ? steak; favourite NHL team ? Vancouver Canucks; favourite NHL player ? Roberto Luongo; plays like ? Dan Cloutier. If he were stranded on an island he would want food, water and friends with him."

Get this guy outta here now!

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And this kid may be Delorme's final pick - what an exclamation mark to put on the whole Delorme era ....

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"He is [Canuck goaltending coach] Ian Clark's kid. . . but we decided we wanted a goaltender at the time and he was the best goaltender available."
This quote properly sums up so many things that are wrong with the Canucks' drafting philosophy, though it's a stretch to give it enough credit to even call it a philosophy.

It's the seventh freaking round - if you have a long-term need at a position and feel strongly about a kid with one of your top picks, by all means go and take that player. But why in the world would you target an organizational need in the seventh round? This isn't baseball, we don't need to fill out the rosters of six minor league clubs with drafted talent.

If the Salmon Kings need a goalie in a couple years, don't waste a pick trying to find one - go sign one as a free agent coming out of junior. I'm willing to bet that there'll be plenty of better undrafted goalies than Morgan Clark when the time comes to either sign him or cut him loose.

If you want to throw Ian Clark a bone for his excellent work with the organization, then invite Morgan to rookie camp, but for god's sakes don't waste a draft pick (credit to poster above for saying that) on this guy.

I never thought I'd get so worked up over that seventh rounder, but that selection (hell, EVERY selection) should have been made on the player that the scouting staff feels has the best shot of making it - not doing a political favour under the guise of filling some phantom organizational need.

Take Kruise Reddick with that pick, despite his disappearing act in the playoffs. Take ANYONE but Clark.

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He said he plays like Dan Cloutier.....oh man.....oh man......

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OMG.

"personal info: Nickname ? Clarky; hobbies include playing sports; if he wasn?t playing hockey, he would be sleeping; favourite music ? rock; favourite TV show ? Prison Break ; favourite food ? steak; favourite NHL team ? Vancouver Canucks; favourite NHL player ? Roberto Luongo; plays like ? Dan Cloutier. If he were stranded on an island he would want food, water and friends with him."

Get this guy outta here now!
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He said he plays like Dan Cloutier.....oh man.....oh man......
Plays LIKE and plays AS WELL AS are two separate things!

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How do you like this 7th round pick?

I'm sure Canucks fans would be setting their hair on fire!


http://blogs.tampabay.com/lightning/...nings-7th.html

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How do you like this 7th round pick?

I'm sure Canucks fans would be setting their hair on fire!


http://blogs.tampabay.com/lightning/...nings-7th.html
I have no problem with that pick. A very nice gesture by the Lightning.

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I have no problem with that pick. A very nice gesture by the Lightning.
I agree. Classy move.

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He said he plays like Dan Cloutier.....oh man.....oh man......
Honestly, if the kid turns out to be as good as Dan Cloutier it was a hell of a late round pick.

And this coming from a guy who wanted to see Cloutier gone long before he actually was.

But of course plays like is simply his style not his competancy.

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Honestly, if the kid turns out to be as good as Dan Cloutier it was a hell of a late round pick.

And this coming from a guy who wanted to see Cloutier gone long before he actually was.

But of course plays like is simply his style not his competancy.
Exactly. One of Cloutier's biggest strengths was his positioning, which he developed largely under the tutelage of Ian Clark. One would assume that Clark's son probably shares a similar style of play to Clark-trained goalies, ie; a strong positional-based style.

Just because Cloutier was mentally weak and chronically injured doesn't mean Morgan Clark will be.

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