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06-22-2008, 07:12 PM
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Many people are sheep and have bought into the propaganda that the Vancouver media is spewing about Hodgson and Beach. It's amazing the power the media hold on the people who rely on external sources to obtain knowledge rather than researching themselves.
I totally agree with you on this one. some of the articles and titles that the Province has put out this past year has been atrocious.

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I read the province today and I am still trying to figure out how Hodgson is a safe pick with a 2nd line center upside.

Safe pick when compared to Beach maybe. Hodgson and Beach have roughly the same level of upside, different playstyles though. Beach with slightly higher upside but much less likely to reach it. Hodgson slightly less upside and more likely to reach it. Plus with character qualities and hockey smarts.

Also not sure how Hodgson has 2nd line upside, when there are tons of people saying his upside is more.

The Province need to stop being Beach homers.

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06-22-2008, 09:35 PM
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the description of Hodgson sounds a bit like Paul Stastny to me. Not particularly fast, but very smart and strong on his skates.

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Hodgson got a chance at cracking the line-up next year?

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Hodgson got a chance at cracking the line-up next year?
Due to our terrible depth at his position sadly yes.

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06-23-2008, 12:49 AM
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I read the province today and I am still trying to figure out how Hodgson is a safe pick with a 2nd line center upside.

Safe pick when compared to Beach maybe. Hodgson and Beach have roughly the same level of upside, different playstyles though. Beach with slightly higher upside but much less likely to reach it. Hodgson slightly less upside and more likely to reach it. Plus with character qualities and hockey smarts.

Also not sure how Hodgson has 2nd line upside, when there are tons of people saying his upside is more.

The Province need to stop being Beach homers.
He has 1st line centerman potential.

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06-23-2008, 01:47 AM
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He has 1st line centerman potential.
i think he would be best served as a 1B center, like Thorthon and Marleau

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i think he would be best served as a 1B center, like Thorthon and Marleau
No one will complain if that's the case.

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06-23-2008, 02:47 AM
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the description of Hodgson sounds a bit like Paul Stastny to me. Not particularly fast, but very smart and strong on his skates.
I thought of this comparison myself yesterday... hopefully it comes to fruition

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06-23-2008, 02:53 AM
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Looks like a mixture between a Drury/Peca type. Just from watching him skate and handle the puck.

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06-23-2008, 03:01 AM
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I thought of this comparison myself yesterday... hopefully it comes to fruition
I'd say at this point in their careers Hodgson is much more highly touted. As most people at the Avs board know, my giant hard-on for the Stastny family is rivalled only by my Brewer fanboy-ism. Just looking at his numbers Stastny was dominant after his first year in the USHL, but for some reason alot of people thought he couldnt translate it to the NHL and he was just riding on the family name. Alot of people were saying at the time that if not for his father he would've been a 4th rounder.

At this point Hodgson has accomplished more than Stastny.

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06-23-2008, 03:31 AM
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I was really hoping Cody would be gone by the time the Nucks picked. He's really gonna be a good one, congrats.

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I was really hoping Cody would be gone by the time the Nucks picked. He's really gonna be a good one, congrats.
Same here about Gagner and Eberle.

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06-23-2008, 04:56 AM
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Im glad we selected him. I would be happy if we drafted Beech too.

Keep in mind guys some of these bio's is not fully accurate.

They say hes 6'0, some listed him as 5'11, just saw the video of him (after each prospect is drafed) he looks like someone whois 5'10 170 pounds. He does not look 6'0.

just a side note that alot of these bios is not accurate.

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He has 1st line centerman potential.
lots of people on the prospect thread (most of whom have seen hoghson played, some many times) are calling him a langkow/drury type. they are calling a 50-70 pts potential, could be a first line player, but won't be carrying a top line.
i'm not down on this pick at all, i'm just relating what i've read, he could be a 1st line center but in the langkow mold. certainly knock my expectation down a notch though.

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lots of people on the prospect thread (most of whom have seen hoghson played, some many times) are calling him a langkow/drury type. they are calling a 50-70 pts potential, could be a first line player, but won't be carrying a top line.
i'm not down on this pick at all, i'm just relating what i've read, he could be a 1st line center but in the langkow mold. certainly knock my expectation down a notch though.
Beach could be one more concussion away from never playing in the NHL, Schenn COULD be Scott Stevens and then again he could be Bryan Allen, Stamkos COULD be a franchise player or just a 60-70 pts player or injured all his career. I don't think there is much point into the guessing game, the fact is he was Canada's best player at the u-18's with 2 G and 10 A. The fact is he scored 40 Goals this season, 11 more than Beach on a team that plays the exact same style as Everett.

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Im glad we selected him. I would be happy if we drafted Beech too.

Keep in mind guys some of these bio's is not fully accurate.

They say hes 6'0, some listed him as 5'11, just saw the video of him (after each prospect is drafed) he looks like someone whois 5'10 170 pounds. He does not look 6'0.

just a side note that alot of these bios is not accurate.

The one that is accurate is CSS (they do the weighing and measuring themselves). They have Hodgson at 5'11.5", 185 lbs.

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06-23-2008, 02:19 PM
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lots of people on the prospect thread (most of whom have seen hoghson played, some many times) are calling him a langkow/drury type. they are calling a 50-70 pts potential, could be a first line player, but won't be carrying a top line.
i'm not down on this pick at all, i'm just relating what i've read, he could be a 1st line center but in the langkow mold. certainly knock my expectation down a notch though.

Usually second line centermen aren't regarded as a top 5 pure offensive talent in the draft lol.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=527478

especially one as deep as this. This can can be a future PPG all around centerman, I love this pick.

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Beach could be one more concussion away from never playing in the NHL, Schenn COULD be Scott Stevens and then again he could be Bryan Allen, Stamkos COULD be a franchise player or just a 60-70 pts player or injured all his career. I don't think there is much point into the guessing game, the fact is he was Canada's best player at the u-18's with 2 G and 10 A. The fact is he scored 40 Goals this season, 11 more than Beach on a team that plays the exact same style as Everett.
Again, Beach was out for the standard 1 week recovery period after those two concussions. That's hardly indicating he's, 'one concussion away from the end of his career'.

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Usually second line centermen aren't regarded as a top 5 pure offensive talent in the draft lol.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=527478

especially one as deep as this. This can can be a future PPG all around centerman, I love this pick.
all i am doing is relaying what other posters have said. MANY of them have seen him play and most of them are comparing his style to langkow. i'm not bashing him or saying he is a 2nd liner at best, i haven't seen hoghson play so i won't make such statement. however, people who've seen him play live is comparing him to langkow, and if that is accurate than he's more likely to play 2nd line.

here's the thread that talks about his upside http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t...hlight=hodgson

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06-24-2008, 02:40 AM
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PIMs have nothing to do with offensive ability and the skillset that Beach has.
But they have everything to do with the kind of game the guy plays. And that's doing stupid stuff on the ice, hurting the team, etc.

Were you the guy that was raving over how great Carcillo was near the end of the season?

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How does he play like Langkow?

Langkow was a mean SOB in junior and Hodgson played nothing like that.

Maybe in terms of point production and role he could be a Langkow type player. That is, someone who can be a #1 centre but might not be able to carry a top line.

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This Daymond Langkow thing is blown out of poportion. none of the things ive red about him, suggest hes Daymond Langkow type of player. NONE. I do recall people here saying hes a Langkow type of player. BTW Langkow seems to play a more dirty type of game.

Scouting reports have him compared to Chris Drury.

Bob the big man McKenzie have him compared to Mike Richards, MIke Richards can quarter back a powerplay, Hodgsons strenth is that hes a power play specialist.

I hope for the sake of the team that hes not a Langkow type of player. Langkow didnt have a breakout season until 11 years after he was drafted. Hes been a career fringe 2nd line centerman until last year.

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Kyle Beach will fight anyone, one of referees, one of the fans, he'll fight anybody!!!

/sarcasm

Seriously, I'm sick of people saying they should have drafted Beach, Beach is a headcase and would've been Bertuzzi 2.0.

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Kyle Beach will fight anyone, one of referees, one of the fans, he'll fight anybody!!!

/sarcasm

Seriously, I'm sick of people saying they should have drafted Beach, Beach is a headcase and would've been Bertuzzi 2.0.
Hodgson and Beach are both great prospects.

Beach is more of a boom or bust type with great potential
Where as Hodgson is the more safer bet to be a offensive contributor at the NHL level...

Its not as clear cut as most make it sound.
Beach is not a crappy prospect by any means....

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