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06-25-2008, 04:58 PM
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What kind of production do you expect from Cherepanov next season in the RSL/KHL

In terms of stats and in terms of his progression as a player.

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06-25-2008, 05:00 PM
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I want him to lead team his in points and work for the first time in preseason.

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based on 46 games like the last two years, i want at leas 20 goals and 20 assists

and for him to put on at least 10 lbs of solid muscle....would be better if it was 20...

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based on 46 games like the last two years, i want at leas 20 goals and 20 assists

and for him to put on at least 10 lbs of solid muscle....would be better if it was 20...
40 points!!!

i expect 30 points, 40 is ALOT in the RSL

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40 points!!!

i expect 30 points, 40 is ALOT in the RSL
hey if he wants to keep progressing thats what i want...i mean 26 points two years in a row, time for a jump.

and the scary thing is, if he wasn't built like a 12 year old, he probably wouldn't have a problem doing it


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hey if he wants to keep progressing thats what i want...i mean 26 points two years in a row, time for a jump.

and the scary thing is, if he wasn't built like a 12 year old, he probably wouldn't have a problem doing it

a 14 point jump is HUGE, idk many players that have even hit 35 points in the RSL in their 3rd year let alone 40!

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malkin.....46 games in 3rd year, 47 points....year before 52 games, 32 points....pretty comparable no?

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If he can stay healthy, 35-40 points for him shouldn't be too far off.

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malkin.....46 games in 3rd year, 47 points....year before 52 games, 32 points....pretty comparable no?
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That was Malkin...

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I would normally stay away...

from such a comparison as Malkin, but if this kid's going to be an NHL top six forward, shouldn't he be closer to leading his team in points? I personally can't say how many points he should have, but I'm thinking he should be close to leading his team in points, or at least goals. Giving a point total is difficult since your overall points can often be affected by the team surrounding you. Malkin had 46 points and led his team in points that season, but Omsk's leader had 56 points, so perhaps Omsk is more offensive-oriented or a better team. So I think I'd prefer to stay more along the lines of what he does on his team and hope that he improves his awareness, his overall game, and gets a little meat on those bones (it really is so tough to judge numbers overseas and understand how good they are - Chere's numbers aren't that great compared to guys on his team, many of whom would never be NHLers - it's just a different league).

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malkin.....46 games in 3rd year, 47 points....year before 52 games, 32 points....pretty comparable no?
Yeah....but malkin isnt one of your run of the mill top 6 forwards...hes one of the top 5 or so forwards in the world. Cherepanov could put up those kind of numbers, but I wouldnt hold him to that standard (ie be pleasantly surprised if he does, not dissapointed if he doesnt)

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06-25-2008, 05:38 PM
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Guys.

He was 17, 18, 19 the last two seasons.

He was and still is very young, and still produced.

Not sure it is fair to be expecting that much.

And if he doesn't score 40 points this year you will think his season was a failure?

The RSL/KHL does NOT work the same way as the NHL. Tremendously gifted offensive players don't rack up the points in the RSL like they might here in the NHL, where they may be given more freedom to use their offensive creativity.

Plus, the RSL/KHL season is only half as long as the NHL season.

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Guys.

He was 17, 18, 19 the last two seasons.

He was and still is very young, and still produced.

Not sure it is fair to be expecting that much.

And if he doesn't score 40 points this year you will think his season was a failure?

The RSL/KHL does NOT work the same way as the NHL. Tremendously gifted offensive players don't rack up the points in the RSL like they might here in the NHL, where they may be given more freedom to use their offensive creativity.

Plus, the RSL/KHL season is only half as long as the NHL season.
They very rarely award second assists. That why totals look very low compared to the NHL.

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hey if he wants to keep progressing thats what i want...i mean 26 points two years in a row, time for a jump.

and the scary thing is, if he wasn't built like a 12 year old, he probably wouldn't have a problem doing it

Come on, he was what... like 18 in that picture?

There are many NHL'ers smaller than him that haven't had problems putting up points. We're not expecting him to be a power forward.

He will probably be 195 when and if he comes over here

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06-25-2008, 06:07 PM
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from such a comparison as Malkin, but if this kid's going to be an NHL top six forward, shouldn't he be closer to leading his team in points?
He shouldnt

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i would really like to see him put up 35-40 points....i know its a lot, however i think that is reasonable if he is getting more playing time and pp time...this is also if he stays healthy all year...overall i just want to see him improve and adding some weight in muscle would be nice

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Cherepanov was a boy playing in a men's league previously. He now has two years of experience and is 19 years old. He is at the age when both Ovechkin and Malkin took off and began scoring at a point per game in the RSL. I would LOVE to see the same kind of jump from Cherepanov, but I would be very happy with 40 points over 50 games. He was at 28 and 29 the last two season and a 10 point jump is not that crazy to ask for, especially with hopefully added ice time and top power play minutes. The kid scored more and at a younger age than anybody ever has in the RSL, but that doesn't mean in the end game he projects to take over the NHL like Ovechkin and Malkin have. I think this is the year when we will learn what the future holds for him. Is he just a talented kid who might play the first line who's skills matured early, but didn't have a great deal more maturing to do? Is he a true top line guy in the NHL?? Is he a possible franchise winger??? I think a lot will be answered about Alexei this season in the RSL.

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about 35 would be good, considering he started last season injured and a bit out of condition, 20 goals 15 assists with no injury and a year older

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about 35 would be good, considering he started last season injured and a bit out of condition, 20 goals 15 assists with no injury and a year older
Yep, I agree, 35 would be decent progress for me.

And, no, I don't expect a 19 year old to lead his team in scoring. Malkin is a superstar. Cherry is not that yet. Most Russian youngsters do not play on the top line and lead their team in scoring like Malkin. The RSL usually favors the vets.

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