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06-26-2008, 12:48 AM
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What are they worth to you?

In just a few days the Rangers will have many key guys unsigned. My question to everybody is what do you think our free agents are worth ?

Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Avery-3 years $3.5M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..


I don't think all of these guys are coming back..infact I wouldn't be shocked if none are resigned but this is what I would pay them.

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06-26-2008, 12:54 AM
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In just a few days the Rangers will have many key guys unsigned. My question to everybody is what do you think our free agents are worth ?

Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Avery-3 years $3.5M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..


I don't think all of these guys are coming back..infact I wouldn't be shocked if none are resigned but this is what I would pay them.
Most posters are going to post TERRIBLE offers, I know this for a fact. Most will low ball almost everyone of those players...but fact is they all will get overpaid. If more then one team wants them that will happen. Its so stupid to read "OMG he was so overpaid!" every time a player gets signed....because most of the time...thats just his price with multiple teams bidding on him.

Anyway:

Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M. - Agree with SoS perfectly.

Avery- 3 years at 3.2M/3.6/4.0 for each season.

Rozsival-4 years $4.2M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..


Pretty much, i'm dead on with SoS....thankfully someone else is being realistic with these things...but im sure a bunch of you will say we are crazy..

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06-26-2008, 12:54 AM
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In just a few days the Rangers will have many key guys unsigned. My question to everybody is what do you think our free agents are worth ?

Jagr- 1 year 5 mill

Avery-3 years $3.3M

Rozsival- 2 years $3.8M

Mara-2 years $2.3M

Straka- 1 year 2 mill

Shanny-1 year 2 mill

Vally-2 year $850K


I don't think all of these guys are coming back..infact I wouldn't be shocked if none are resigned but this is what I would pay them.
Put in my numbers

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06-26-2008, 12:56 AM
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In just a few days the Rangers will have many key guys unsigned. My question to everybody is what do you think our free agents are worth ?

Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Avery-3 years $3.5M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..


I don't think all of these guys are coming back..infact I wouldn't be shocked if none are resigned but this is what I would pay them.
Jagr--6.5 with Bonuses---I agree with you

Avery--3 years 3.5---again i agree

Rozsival--5 years 4.25 per

Mara--4 years 2.65 per

Straka--1 year 75k

Shanny--1 year 1.5

Vally--3 years 800k per

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06-26-2008, 01:47 AM
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Jagr-1yr/5m

Avery-3yrs/3m per

Rozsival-3yrs/4m per

Mara-1yr/1.75m

Straka-1yr/1m

Shanny-1yr/1.5m

Vally-2yrs/650k per

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Jagr - 5.5 bonuses to 7 / 1 year

Avery - 3.75 / 3 years

Roz - 4.25 / 4 years

Mara - Wouldn't extend an offer

Vali - 1 year 850 K

Shanny 1 year 1.1

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06-26-2008, 02:38 AM
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Straka 2
Shanny 2
Jagr 6
Avery 2.5
Mara 2
Vally 1

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Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Im fine with this.

Avery-3 years $3.5M

This I like as well.. although I may try to push Avery up to 4 years and down to 3 per... might get it done.

Rozsival-4 years $4M

I'd pay him less and take him for one less... if able:
3 yrs @ 3.75 - 3.8

Mara-2 years $2.25M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..

I wouldnt care to re-sign Mara or Vally much at all, honestly.

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06-26-2008, 08:23 AM
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Jagr-1 year $6.0M Base with bonuses to $7.5M

Avery-2 years $3.5M, $4.0M

Rozsival-3 years $4M, $5M, $4.5M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Shanny-1 year $1.5M bonuses to $3M

Vally-2 years $1M

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06-26-2008, 08:27 AM
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Talk about a loaded question. There's a very big gap between what I think these players are worth, and what I'd be willing to pay them given our cap situation.

Jagr on the NYR - 5 mil for 1 year, 1.5 in added bonuses
Jagr on the free market - 7 Mil +

Avery on the NYR - 3 years $3M
Avery on the FM - 3.5 - 4 mil

Rozsival NYR - $3.8M
Rozy FM: $4.25M+

Mara - $2.5M

Shanny NYR - Don't want him
Shanny FM: $1.5M

Vally - $800k

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06-26-2008, 08:36 AM
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Jagr-1 year contract $6M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Avery-3 years $2.8 M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara - 1 year $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1.5M...

Shanny-would have to pay me to come back

Vally-1 year $900k..

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Zilch Zero NAda, No Deniro mamacita.

They are all worth nothing.

Don't sign any of them back. Give it to the young kids.

Our team is ranked 8th prospect wise, give them a chance to play dammit.

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Zilch Zero NAda, No Deniro mamacita.

They are all worth nothing.

Don't sign any of them back. Give it to the young kids.

Our team is ranked 8th prospect wise, give them a chance to play dammit.
but what are they worth to the other clubs?

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Straka- 0, time to move on
Shanny- 0, again, time to move on
Jagr- 6
Rozsival- 5
Avery- 3.5 (I love him so!)
Mara- 2.25, take it or leave it
Vally- 1

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Zilch Zero NAda, No Deniro mamacita.

They are all worth nothing.

Don't sign any of them back. Give it to the young kids.

Our team is ranked 8th prospect wise, give them a chance to play dammit.
You think our kids can replace like 2/3 of our offensive production from last year?

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Well this is supposed to be about what we think they're "worth" not what they might actually get. So here is my opinion.

Jagr-1 year 5.5mil w/ bonus options up to 7mil.

Avery-3 years $2.8 M - 3.0M tops.

Rozsival- Let him walk, he's going to want close to 5mil and I feel he's gone downhill.

Mara - 1 year $2.5M - Excellent 2nd pairing D man if he signs for this low.

Straka- is gone...

Shanny - Time to move on...

Vally-1 year $900k or let our other goalies in the farm battle it out for the backup role.

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Jagr-1 year contract $5.5M with added bonuses that could reach $7M.

Avery-2 years $3M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara-Buh bye

Straka-

Shanny-coaches role

Vally-1 year $700k..
Made my changes.

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Jagr-2 Year Contract 11 million. 5.5 Cap hit...no bonuses.

Avery- 3 year deal, 10.5 million. Bonus money based on production, subtracted by any suspensions. 3.5 cap hit

Rozsival- 2.75 per year...but not here! Club needs new blood, more physical addition, more offensive output. No more middle of the road top line defenseman.

Mara- $2.25 per year, but not in NY.

Straka-NA, Thanks for the memories!

Shanny-1 Year, 2.75 plus bonuses for 30 goal season, and .8ppg production in the playoffs.

Vally-2 years 1.750 contract. .875 cap hit.

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Jagr-2 Year Contract 11 million. 5.5 Cap hit...no bonuses.

Avery- 3 year deal, 10.5 million. Bonus money based on production, subtracted by any suspensions. 3.5 cap hit

Rozsival- 2.75 per year...but not here! Club needs new blood, more physical addition, more offensive output. No more middle of the road top line defenseman.

Mara- $2.25 per year, but not in NY.

Straka-NA, Thanks for the memories!

Shanny-1 Year, 2.75 plus bonuses for 30 goal season, and .8ppg production in the playoffs.

Vally-2 years 1.750 contract. .875 cap hit.
Avery is not eligible for bonuses.

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Jagr-2 Year Contract 11 million. 5.5 Cap hit...no bonuses.

Avery- 3 year deal, 10.5 million. Bonus money based on production, subtracted by any suspensions. 3.5 cap hit

Rozsival- 2.75 per year...but not here! Club needs new blood, more physical addition, more offensive output. No more middle of the road top line defenseman.


Mara- $2.25 per year, but not in NY.

Straka-NA, Thanks for the memories!

Shanny-1 Year, 2.75 plus bonuses for 30 goal season, and .8ppg production in the playoffs.

Vally-2 years 1.750 contract. .875 cap hit.
I would be absolutely stunned if Rozsival signed a deal for less than 4M.

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Good numbers, SoS...

Jagr - 1 year, $6.5MM plus bonuses to $7.5MM and a player option for a second year that gets triggered if he meets certain (real) performance hurdles - 80 points.

Avery - 3 years, $3.25MM

Rozsival - 2 years, $3.75MM, with a club option for a third season

Straka - 1 year, $2MM

Mara - 2 years, $2.25MM

Shanny - 1 year, $2MM base, $1.5MM in bonuses (starting at 15 goals and going up to 30, with every goal being worth $100k up to the max)

Vally - 1 yr, $800k

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Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M. (Agreed, I think this is pretty much dead on)

Avery- 3 years $3.5M - 4.0M

Rozsival- 3 years $4.25M

Mara- 3 years $2.5M

Straka- 1 year - $2.5M

Shanny- Nothing

Vally- 2 years $900k

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I would be absolutely stunned if Rozsival signed a deal for less than 4M.
You are probably right...but the thread was what are they worth to you. To me I think Rozy is a little overrated.

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You are probably right...but the thread was what are they worth to you. To me I think Rozy is a little overrated.
Gotcha, and agreed.

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In just a few days the Rangers will have many key guys unsigned. My question to everybody is what do you think our free agents are worth ?

Jagr-1 year contract $6.5M with added bonuses that could reach $8M.

Avery-3 years $3.5M

Rozsival-4 years $4M

Mara-2 years $2.5M

Straka-if he comes back i'd give him 1 year $1M...

Shanny-1 year $1.1M..

Vally-1 year $900k..


I don't think all of these guys are coming back..infact I wouldn't be shocked if none are resigned but this is what I would pay them.

i agree with pretty much all of these except rozsival, in my opinion his offensive numbers this past season overshadow some of the blunders he had in the 2nd half of the season, hes going to want 5-6 million on the open market, guys who are consistently good defensively and offensively get that, to me rozsival is worth closer to 3-3.5.....id take shanny back on a contract like that, but at a drastically reduced role on the team.

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