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06-26-2008, 05:32 PM
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Orpik going into Free Agency

Aparently Brooks Orpik rejected the offer the Penguins gave him.

http://postgazette.com/pg/08178/892906-100.stm

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Defenseman Brooks Orpik has received, and rejected, a contract offer from the Penguins.

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And he was offered 3-3,5 ish money for several years.


That tells me leave him alone, if he rejects that then he's not nearly worth the money he's going to get payed.

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06-26-2008, 05:38 PM
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Pretty much...I think these guys coming off good playoff runs will have inflated price tags.

Orpik is a pretty good player, but I'm not sure I'd pay him $4+ mill to do what he does. I feel like it was only a year ago that Pens fans wanted him run out of town and he was being benched.

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Pretty much...I think these guys coming off good playoff runs will have inflated price tags.

Orpik is a pretty good player, but I'm not sure I'd pay him $4+ mill to do what he does. I feel like it was only a year ago that Pens fans wanted him run out of town and he was being benched.
Yep agreed. If you want Orpik be prepared to overpay.

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Pretty much...I think these guys coming off good playoff runs will have inflated price tags.

Orpik is a pretty good player, but I'm not sure I'd pay him $4+ mill to do what he does. I feel like it was only a year ago that Pens fans wanted him run out of town and he was being benched.
your thinking of Brooks Laich. Brooks Orpik is actually a very good player aside from this year.

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Terrible news. Now I know Slats will overpay for him. I'd rather him stay in Pittsburgh and keep them in a cap bind.

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I read somewhere on the Pens forum he was offered 3.3M for a X years (don't remember length). I'd love to have him on our blueline but man, 3.5-4M for him is a tough pill to swallow.

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"But we're still talking."
From the article. He might still be a Penguin.

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.

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Yep agreed. If you want Orpik be prepared to overpay.
If you want a top 4 defenseman on the UFA market be prepared to overpay.

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.
QFT, and please no one even consider putting Mike Commodore in the same catogory.

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.



If you want a top 4 defenseman on the UFA market be prepared to overpay.
Exactly. How many people were pissed because we didn't take a hard hitting dman in the draft...a guy who would no doubt take 2 or 3 years to actually suit up for us. The cap is going up 6mm...no reason to lose out on a guy (if he's the right guy) for a few bucks.

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From the article. He might still be a Penguin.
Sounds like that meansears not $$$$.

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.



If you want a top 4 defenseman on the UFA market be prepared to overpay.
agreed. i always assumed his cap hit would be in the 4-4.5 million dollar range.

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.



If you want a top 4 defenseman on the UFA market be prepared to overpay.
Yes, I agree, Orpik is here for the taking, go get him Sather.

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If he's planning on AA being a wing, I could see us making a serious push for Opik.

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your thinking of Brooks Laich. Brooks Orpik is actually a very good player aside from this year.
No I'm thinking of Orpik

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If Jay McKee is worth 4x4, so is Orpik

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I heard from a guy on the internet that met sam rosen at a bagel shop that Orpik is being targeted by the Rangers..

Just kidding!!

Orpik for the right amount of money fills a huge void on the backline. His combo of size and maturity in his own end over the past two seasons makes him the type of guy that will be looked at as overpaid but really isn't. I wouldn't go past $4.25M for him but I can see him getting $5.0M on the open market...

Sather missed the boat not signing Brendon Witt a few seasons ago. But I'm all about hindsight on that....I was dead against the move...

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Orpik for the right amount of money fills a huge void on the backline. His combo of size and maturity in his own end over the past two seasons makes him the type of guy that will be looked at as overpaid but really isn't. I wouldn't go past $4.25M for him but I can see him getting $5.0M on the open market...
Yeah, this is what I mean by overpay. upwards of 5 Mill. If you want to overpay that much for a hardhitting dman, okay, but is it worth it? Maybe yes, maybe no. Wouldn't know till the guy plays a season. I'd love Orpik at 3.5 to 4 Mill. 4-4.5 maybe. 4.5 to 5 is harder.

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No I'm thinking of Orpik
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of Wade Brookbank...

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People have said over and over..we need a strong hitting defenseman on our blueline that will make sure nobody goes near Lundqvist.

One finally comes along and now we are worried to overpay him by $500,000? He's just entering his prime years. And EVERYONE is overpaid, if you want a good defenseman you have to overpay...its just that simple.

3 years at 4.0-4.2 million, get it done Slats.



If you want a top 4 defenseman on the UFA market be prepared to overpay.
I'm not worried about overpaying Orpik by 500,000, more like triple that.

he scares me, he's been a pretty marginal defenseman throughout his career, and has really only put together a few good months.

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he scares me, he's been a pretty marginal defenseman throughout his career, and has really only put together a few good months.
Pretty much this. He's been a bundle of untapped potential until he put it together for a good run. Has he actually turned the corner, or did he just have a couple of good months?

No way to know...

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I'd like to see us make a couple moves to shore up our defense this off season, and I think a good starting point would be Orpik. If you plan for it, his salary doesn't have to handcuff us. 4yrs/16 mil is a steal for a guy like Orpik in this market.

For what its worth, I get to see Orpik play quite a bit and I have to say he was much better throughout the entire season than many of you are giving him credit for.

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And he was offered 3-3,5 ish money for several years.


That tells me leave him alone, if he rejects that then he's not nearly worth the money he's going to get payed.
I agree.

That stinks. Too much money for him.


I patiently await Sanguinetti and Del Zotto.

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I'd like to see us make a couple moves to shore up our defense this off season, and I think a good starting point would be Orpik. If you plan for it, his salary doesn't have to handcuff us. 4yrs/16 mil is a steal for a guy like Orpik in this market.
QFT, and it isnt like Orpik type players are a dime a dozen. a kind of player Orpik is, its quite hard to get a Hard Hitting Defensman. You can take a look at how many are in the league, and the 2 true Hard nosed dmen are Orpik, and Komisarek.

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I agree.

That stinks. Too much money for him.


I patiently await Sanguinetti and Del Zotto.
Then you'll be waiting awhile. Sangs at best has at least a full year in HFD before the NHL, and Del Zotto has about 3-4 years at earliest.

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