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06-27-2008, 11:01 AM
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I'm beginning to think this press conference was much ado about nothing. Doesn't Jagr co-host a beauty pageant or something every year around this time?
I hope its something like that. I would assume Jagr would at least want to hear or see what the Rangers free agent plans are. It might not make a difference as 35 million dollars is a lot to turn down. However, if still does have some desire to play in the NHL, maybe signing Sundin would get back over here.

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06-27-2008, 11:01 AM
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I'm beginning to think this press conference was much ado about nothing. Doesn't Jagr co-host a beauty pageant or something every year around this time?
"Team Jagr".

He has a charity tour of hockey players who compete in cycling, tennis, volleyball, soccer, etc... all summer long. Each summer he announces which althletes have made commitments.

Prucha was first to sign on. Rucinsky, Plekanec expected, etc. That's the stuff JJ talks about.

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06-27-2008, 11:02 AM
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Press Conference over. Details on the rant page.

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Thx Rodent.

Not to kill the traffic on your site but the $0.50 version is he will make no decision before July 1.

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06-27-2008, 11:07 AM
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According to my calculations, $ 35 million tax free in russia, is equivalent to around $ 61 in the NHL (35*1,75)?

Does anyone no the proportions between NHL salaries and russian tax free US $?
What's your average tax rate? 30%? Take the 35mill and divide it be 1-the tax rate...so $50mill

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06-27-2008, 11:14 AM
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What's your average tax rate? 30%? Take the 35mill and divide it be 1-the tax rate...so $50mill
The $35m being thrown around is the tax-free equivilent. The actual dollar amount in the offer is much lower.

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06-27-2008, 11:21 AM
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The $35m being thrown around is the tax-free equivilent. The actual dollar amount in the offer is much lower.
That's 35mill is tax free, so to compare apple to apples, it'd be worth $50mill+ over here.

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06-27-2008, 11:22 AM
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That's 35mill is tax free, so to compare apple to apples, it'd be worth $50mill+ over here.
The actual offer is $21 million over 3 years, which is worth approximately $35m over here.

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06-27-2008, 11:37 AM
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The actual offer is $21 million over 3 years, which is worth approximately $35m over here.
ahhh OK...meh, that's peanuts then

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06-27-2008, 11:55 AM
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I hope this is true and Jags takes it. He's worth that kind of money in the KHL. In the NHL, I don't think he has much value left.
I think there are 30 GMs in the league that would disagree with you.

In the Pens vs Rags series, he was at times the best player on the ice.

I'd be pretty upset if Jagr goes to play in Omsk.

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06-27-2008, 12:40 PM
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It's a ridiculous offer even if it is inflated. I don't think the Rangers should even come close to offering such a contract. For a guy who is 36 and his production on the way down?

Yes, I'd want him back, but for just another year and if all goes well, an optional second year. I'd rather see a total of $10 million or $11 million in such a deal. Yeah, it's significantly less than the Washington Capitals contract, but for this stage of his career, it's adequate.

I had a feeling that he would wait until Tuesday anyway. If he's eligible for NHL free agency, why would he sign with Omsk now? Doesn't make sense. If the Rangers are serious about keeping him, then something better give in real short order. It cannot get to a point where the Wild are with Brian Rolston.

After that year (maybe two at most) is up, then hopefully the post-Jagr era transition is complete.

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06-27-2008, 12:43 PM
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Didnt Bardin say that Omsk isnt offering Jagr anything close to the $12 million offer? IDK but this seems kind of hard to believe.

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I don't think the Rangers are going to try and match the offer. That would just be an awful move by Sather, and he isn't that dumb.

I'd imagine Sather will say; "Here's a contract for 5ish mil, plus incentives and bonuses. If you want to stay in the NHL, thats our offer." Then he'll probably pitch the idea of signing Sundin to a similar offer.

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06-27-2008, 01:14 PM
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Foreign players in Russia don't pay taxes.

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06-27-2008, 02:34 PM
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Foreign players in Russia don't pay taxes.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06272008...nhl_117508.htm


soooooooooo looks like Jags still wants to stay

it will get done but I hope to god it's only one yr with Bonus

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06-27-2008, 02:36 PM
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Didnt Bardin say that Omsk isnt offering Jagr anything close to the $12 million offer? IDK but this seems kind of hard to believe.
The offer is $21m over 3 years, or $7m a year. The $12m/year and $35/3 years numbers that are being thrown about are roughly what he would need to be paid here in the states in order to take home the same amount after taxes.

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soooooooooo looks like Jags still wants to stay

it will get done but I hope to god it's only one yr with Bonus
Say hello to a top line of Drury-Sundin-Jagr.

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06-27-2008, 02:39 PM
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soooooooooo looks like Jags still wants to stay

it will get done but I hope to god it's only one yr with Bonus
Keep hoping, the article you posted says (via his agent) Jags has no interest in a 1 year deal.

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Yea i read that ..........I still hope it's a one yr deal

If he takes two yrs at 10 million fine ...........but it's risky

Still it does sound good if it actually came to be a Drury ,Sundin , Jagr, good lord!

But someone is still needed for Gomez like Malone or Rolston AND I don't think they have enough under the cap to do that AND help the D

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06-27-2008, 02:56 PM
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Yea i read that ..........I still hope it's a one yr deal

If he takes two yrs at 10 million fine ...........but it's risky

Still it does sound good if it actually came to be a Drury ,Sundin , Jagr, good lord!

But someone is still needed for Gomez like Malone or Rolston AND I don't think they have enough under the cap to do that AND help the D

If you add in 3 or 4 more kids from Hartford - Korpi, Byers, Potter and perhaps, AA - dump nearly $4 million going back to Toronto for a deal for McCabe, and sign both Jagr and Sundin to base salaries with attainable bonuses, you might be able to get it done.

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PLease no to Sundin

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From our favorite "journalist" not named Larry:

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A source contacted me today and told me that despite the Russian rumours, the NY Rangers may indeed be closing in on a long term deal.
Long term? Two years is long term?

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06-27-2008, 05:08 PM
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Is anyone else getting the feeling that Jags won't be returning to the Rangers?

I don't see Sather committing to him for 2-3 years like he wants, and I don't see Jags signing a 1yr, incentive-laden deal when he could secure something for another 2 years past that. Why would he?

I see him either returning to the Pens or being picked up by the Habs.

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06-27-2008, 06:00 PM
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Thx Rodent.

Not to kill the traffic on your site but the $0.50 version is he will make no decision before July 1.
LOL. I have no adverts. Traffic is not an issue. Write anything you want.

That said, I just posted a more detailed replay of JJ's full conference for anyone who is interested. JJ talks of Slats, Marty, Sundin, Brandon, Chris and Scott.

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Foreign players in Russia don't pay taxes.
Depending on tax treaties, they could have to pay taxes or something in their own country though even if they don't pay taxes in Russia.

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Im not sure some of you realize how weak the Rangers forwards will be without someone like Jagr...

and ******* hfboards, your ****** ads are ****ing up my browser again
LMFAO, poor Lev.

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I hope its something like that. I would assume Jagr would at least want to hear or see what the Rangers free agent plans are. It might not make a difference as 35 million dollars is a lot to turn down. However, if still does have some desire to play in the NHL, maybe signing Sundin would get back over here.
Well, if Jagr comes back, expected Sundin to be here. Because it seems the only way Jagr is coming back is if they're going to make a serious push for the cup and sign Sundin. What Jagr has wanted, Jagr has gotten, and if they're serious about bringing him back, something tells me they'll sign Sundin.

If this is the case, I hope to god that they can find a way to get it done without killing all of our capspace. At least if it's a 1-2 year deal, we can still go after Kovalchuk in 2010.

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