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06-12-2008, 11:16 PM
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A different Outlook - Jay Pandolfo

I realize everyone wants to revamp the entire team with 2-3 free agents but i have a different idea. I mean, if we got hossa, I would not argue obviously. However, one guy i'm really interested in, is jay Pandolfo. He'll prob get signed, but assuming he does not this is a guy we need. Why him? Well, we had a great powerplay, but our PK wasn't great. He can change that. For Chipchura to become a good defensive player, he'd be an attractive mentor, don't you think? We ranked first in the league in goals, I don't think goalscoring is an issue. So unless my free agent dream of getting pandolfo and Sundin(because he's what we need and isn't a long term problem) getting pandolfo alone is great. I realize he'll probably get resign by jersey, so are there any other defensive wingers to help out our young forwards that you'd like to see in montreal?

Also, is it just me, or does a checking line of higgins/chipchura/pandolfo(or any good defensive veteran in jay's place) sound awesome?

Cuz that would leave lapierre/begin/kosto as an energy line, which is pretty good to me.

To give you an idea of what I see, here's a projected forward line-up.

A Kost /Plek /kovalev
S Kost /Koivu/Latendresse
Higgins/Chip /FA Defensive Forward
Begin /Lap /Kosto

Latendresse does better with Koivu, well most do, but he's not suited for a checking line, so him getting that checking line time in 07-08 is beneficial but for too long will kill his development. Of course, if you don't like the 2nd and 3rd lines, just exchange sergei and higgins and ull have a somewhat fimilar first 2 lines. Getting a guy line sundin just moves the center's down by 1, removing kosto/begin out of line-up, lapierre as winger and chip in 4th line duty, plek prob in 3rd line.


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Honestly, pandolfo is the only free agent defensive player that I am sure isn't signed yet. Would I prefer a better guy? yes, I would. I want a player similar to him, not necessarily him. The idea is to have a team where there are 2 components, offense, and defense. In the sense that, when offense fails us, defense will keep us in the game, and vice versa. I would assume, the plan is to mold chipchura into a two way defense first player, in the gainey mold. If that were the case, a veteran shutdown presence will only aid in his development, and help a young team on the rise. Everyone says Rolston or this and that, but i doubt he'd go for a short deal, so if it doesn't work out, we're screwed, and even if it does, I doubt he'd take a checking line role if latendresse or someone is knocking on the door. It's very easy to assume a big time free agent would like to play a defensive role on our team, but a lot of guys go to free agency to get out of the bottom 6 and look for a top 6 role. So, a guy like pandolfo would accept his role, be cheap.

Jay pandolfo's sportsnet.ca's page: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/players/Jay_Pandolfo

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Assets:Is an extremely efficient penalty-killer. Solid on the forecheck, he has the grit needed to do battle in the corners. Plays an exemplary team game.

Flaws:Has not shown the same scoring touch in the pros that he displayed at Boston University. Is prone to long scoring droughts.

Career potential:Checking line winger.

Salary: $836,000

Cheap investment isn't it? Considering even with the new setup with Kovie, A defensive specialist won't be a bad thing.

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06-13-2008, 07:59 AM
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i would definately sign him

one of my top free agent aquisitions

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Pandolfo is very underrated. He is an excellent defensive forward.

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A couple comments from a Devils fan who wants "Pando" to be re-signed (and I think he will be).

1. He's making 836k because of the lockout rollback. I think he's likely to be offered at least 1.5m from the Devils. The players love him and the team loves him game. He's not a rah-rah leader but he has won the Devils players' "Unsung Hero" award 4 or 5 years.

2. You probably don't want him on the same line as Chris Higgins unless you're swimming in offensive forwards. Pandolfo can score maybe 12-18 goals, maybe even 20 in a great year. But he doesn't have a ton of skill to set other players up. He'll work hard offensively, and works great with Madden on the counterattack (they've been playing together forever), but he isn't going to create extra opportunities on offense.

3. He had a pretty nasty injury this year (strained pelvic ligaments from crashing top speed into the end-boards) that hurt his game when he came back later in the season. He should be fully recovered after a long offseason.

4. He isn't a speedster. He's great with his stick and is always in good defensive position, but he's not some kind of high energy player. Gives 110% but he only has average speed. This is probably a concern in a few years. He's played a lot of hard minutes and I'm not sure he'll be really effective when he's 35 or 36.

5. He has a nice Boston accent.

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If we can get a guy like Sundin, I'd be all for signing Pandolfo, maybe play him with Chipchura as a mentor with Higgins. Rolston is a more skilled version who can play PP and PK...8-10 mil for 2 years, real solid 2nd line calibre guy.

There are a lot of options out there for sure.

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I realize everyone wants to revamp the entire team with 2-3 free agents but i have a different idea. I mean, if we got hossa, I would not argue obviously. However, one guy i'm really interested in, is jay Pandolfo. He'll prob get signed, but assuming he does not this is a guy we need. Why him? Well, we had a great powerplay, but our PK wasn't great. He can change that. For Chipchura to become a good defensive player, he'd be an attractive mentor, don't you think? We ranked first in the league in goals, I don't think goalscoring is an issue. So unless my free agent dream of getting pandolfo and Sundin(because he's what we need and isn't a long term problem) getting pandolfo alone is great. I realize he'll probably get resign by jersey, so are there any other defensive wingers to help out our young forwards that you'd like to see in montreal?

Also, is it just me, or does a checking line of higgins/chipchura/pandolfo(or any good defensive veteran in jay's place) sound awesome?

Cuz that would leave lapierre/begin/kosto as an energy line, which is pretty good to me.

To give you an idea of what I see, here's a projected forward line-up.

A Kost /Plek /kovalev
S Kost /Koivu/Latendresse
Higgins/Chip /FA Defensive Forward
Begin /Lap /Kosto

Latendresse does better with Koivu, well most do, but he's not suited for a checking line, so him getting that checking line time in 07-08 is beneficial but for too long will kill his development. Of course, if you don't like the 2nd and 3rd lines, just exchange sergei and higgins and ull have a somewhat fimilar first 2 lines. Getting a guy line sundin just moves the center's down by 1, removing kosto/begin out of line-up, lapierre as winger and chip in 4th line duty, plek prob in 3rd line.
while pandolfo would look nice on our third line i really don't see him straying too far from his home state but if he's willing then why not ? EDIT : Pandolfo was born in Winchester MA. my mistake .


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Just bumping this up instead of creating a new thread. Pandolfo would be great to bring on the team, he's exactly the type of player that Gainey and Carbs like as a defensive player, even though the team is going for a more exciting style these days.

Andrei K - Plek - kovalev
Tanguay - Koivu - Lats
Sergei K - Higgins - Pandolfo (he plays LW though)
Begin - Lap - Kosto

The team is pretty strong on the LW and not enough quality on RW. The team had some problems with the PK last year and having Jay on the first line PK will make a huge difference. I don't see him going for anywhere near as much as other UFA's out there, he'll bring a really good upside that the team needs.

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Sounds like a Gainey type signing.

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I don't see the point of signing Pandolfo when you have Kostopoulos and Begin as veterans, plus youngsers Lapierre and Chichura developing. For what you gain, might as well go with what you have and trade for a short term fix before the deadline if it's a piece missing. Maybe Lapierre and Chichura will end up being more productive by then and they cost nothing...same as Bouillon Gorges O'byrne vs getting a lower tier UFA d-man...you could use the same logic for Halak.

Detroit is a very good example, they gave Kronvall Filippula and Franzen a shot instead of going for big UFA's and they came up big. Habs did it with Plekanec A.Kost S.Kost Gorges the last few years.

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Sounds like a Gainey type signing.
Holik looks more like Gainey type of signing.....and I definately would love more Pandolfo than Holik.....enough of these washed up centermen....

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Holik is a no. Pandolfo is a yes. Although I dont think he will be signed because Gainey wants speed, speed, speed.

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I agree we need help on the PK, he would be a great addition. Begin and Kostopoulos are great for the playoff and depth but they won't play the whole season.

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I think at this point we sign a centerman (whoever that is) and that's it. Unless we're going to trade away a couple wingers, there isn't much room for winger UFA signings.

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With chipchura on the 3rd as center and pandolfo on the right, maybe higgins or latendresse on the left we'd have a decent defensive unit. Should we get that big free agent center at the deadline, we can always send lapierre on the 4th line with chiphura in the middle with begin and kosto as last man. There isn't a big loss here. I doubt he'll get more than 3 mil as well. Should we sign a guy like sundin now for 8 mil, we may be very close to the cap if not just passing it, so waiving/trading a guy like dandenault would possibly occur and valentenko will be the 7th dman instead. Of course, this depends how much Sundin wants(and if we even get him) and how much pandolfo would want(again, if we even get him). If we can fit both under the cap, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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Actually it depends because if we get sundin, then we can have 3 offensive line.

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