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06-29-2008, 06:41 PM
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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...

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06-29-2008, 06:45 PM
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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
Every team wants to sign Jagr and Sundin though the Rangers will absolutley not get both of them.

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06-29-2008, 06:53 PM
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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
Rangers have something like 36 mil locked into 14-15 players.... but that's without Jagr, Straka, Mara, Kasparaitis, Rozsival, Shanahan, Strudwick, Malik and Avery.

Whereas the Habs have 18 players locked at 42 mil, but only have Kostitsyn, Gorges, Halak and O'Byrne to sign...

It seems they believe they're still in the pre-cap era....

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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
The rangers go by the philosophy of paying 90% of the cap to 10 players and the rest are fillers...I think if they sign another 7-8 mil guy they will start looking like Tampa Bay.

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06-29-2008, 07:25 PM
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I guess the Rangers didn't change after all; they still buy and trade for all the players possible and think they can championship by stacking talent only.

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06-29-2008, 07:32 PM
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They have Sather in charge, since he can't draft they need to buy players.

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06-29-2008, 07:34 PM
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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
What? LOL...the rules are the same for every team.

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They have Sather in charge, since he can't draft they need to buy players.
you're exactly right. Plus, he has a lifetime job from an owner who wants every ranger fan to have 50 jerseys, hence the signing of big names. Its the Ranger way. We won't win a cup til he's gone.

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If they somehow manage to re-sign Jagr AND sign Sundin, they would still not be a legit cup contender IMO because their blueline will seriously be underwhelming due to those 5 big contracts on their cap. Staal-Girardi-Tyutin-Backman-2 decent to mid level UFA's because that's all they could afford. Where's the supreme puck moving ability or the physical play or strong shutdown ability you need from the backend to be a title contender?

Let's hope for our sake the Rangers realize that and decide to blow their load on Campbell or Redden instead of Sundin.

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06-29-2008, 08:01 PM
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The Rangers have come a long way as an organization since the lockout. They are just now starting to see the benefits of the change in philosophy they made in 04. They already have a foundation of home grown talent in Staal, Callahan, Dubinsky, Dawes, Prucha, Tyutin, Girardi, and Lundqvist. Then you factor in younger prospects like Cherepanov, Sanguinetti, Anisimov, and Korpikoski it appears they will have some excellent talent to add to that foundation. Now not all these prospects and young players will pan out, or continue to develop. However, the Rangers are way past the point of having to "buy" all their players. Last season, they identified Drury and Gomez as two players they would spend big money in order lead the franchise for a long time. Outside of those contracts, the only money they have spent since 04 is on stop-gaps like Shanny, Straka, Rucinsky, Malik, Nylander, and those were mostly one to two years deals. Every off-season the Rangers are rumored to be in the mix for every big free agent, even though since 04 they have only been a major player once. This thread was just getting really nasty, and as a Ranger fan I just wanted to defend what I think is an unfair label about my team at this point.

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They have Sather in charge, since he can't draft they need to buy players.
You know nothing. I think if you look closely youll see whats wrong with your statement.

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+ with gomez-drury-dubinsky at center, they don't need sundin!!

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06-29-2008, 08:27 PM
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The Rangers have come a long way as an organization since the lockout. They are just now starting to see the benefits of the change in philosophy they made in 04. They already have a foundation of home grown talent in Staal, Callahan, Dubinsky, Dawes, Prucha, Tyutin, Girardi, and Lundqvist. Then you factor in younger prospects like Cherepanov, Sanguinetti, Anisimov, and Korpikoski it appears they will have some excellent talent to add to that foundation. Now not all these prospects and young players will pan out, or continue to develop. However, the Rangers are way past the point of having to "buy" all their players. Last season, they identified Drury and Gomez as two players they would spend big money in order lead the franchise for a long time. Outside of those contracts, the only money they have spent since 04 is on stop-gaps like Shanny, Straka, Rucinsky, Malik, Nylander, and those were mostly one to two years deals. Every off-season the Rangers are rumored to be in the mix for every big free agent, even though since 04 they have only been a major player once. This thread was just getting really nasty, and as a Ranger fan I just wanted to defend what I think is an unfair label about my team at this point.
I don't want to blame the rangers but i took their owner as a sample for signing insane contract.

I mean drury is not even a 1st liner and he gets 7millions ? Lundquist is very good but with this contract he his now the most well paid goaltender in the league ?

After those contract, what will happen when we will want to sign our player ? the player half as good as Drury will ask for 4millions, the player better than Drury will ask for 8-9 millions.

I agree that there was a shift in philosophy but last year they broke it, they went to their old habits of being greedy and trying to sign evryone...

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06-29-2008, 08:30 PM
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What? LOL...the rules are the same for every team.
I don't know what your talking about, abusing something doesn't require to break rules but doesn't make it morally right either.

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The Rangers have come a long way as an organization since the lockout. They are just now starting to see the benefits of the change in philosophy they made in 04. They already have a foundation of home grown talent in Staal, Callahan, Dubinsky, Dawes, Prucha, Tyutin, Girardi, and Lundqvist. Then you factor in younger prospects like Cherepanov, Sanguinetti, Anisimov, and Korpikoski it appears they will have some excellent talent to add to that foundation. Now not all these prospects and young players will pan out, or continue to develop. However, the Rangers are way past the point of having to "buy" all their players. Last season, they identified Drury and Gomez as two players they would spend big money in order lead the franchise for a long time. Outside of those contracts, the only money they have spent since 04 is on stop-gaps like Shanny, Straka, Rucinsky, Malik, Nylander, and those were mostly one to two years deals. Every off-season the Rangers are rumored to be in the mix for every big free agent, even though since 04 they have only been a major player once. This thread was just getting really nasty, and as a Ranger fan I just wanted to defend what I think is an unfair label about my team at this point.

Bound to happen when you have two C making a combined 14M$+ and are also rumored to go after two other forwards who'll make in the 7M$ range too

Guess we'll see, will the NYR go the "buying route" and chase Sundin/Jagr to end up having 4 forwards making close to 30M$ or they'll concentrate on building a "team"... let's not forget it's Sather at the helm, he won't mind spending on stars players.

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I don't want to blame the rangers but i took their owner as a sample for signing insane contract.

I mean drury is not even a 1st liner and he gets 7millions ? Lundquist is very good but with this contract he his now the most well paid goaltender in the league ?

After those contract, what will happen when we will want to sign our player ? the player half as good as Drury will ask for 4millions, the player better than Drury will ask for 8-9 millions.

I agree that there was a shift in philosophy but last year they broke it, they went to their old habits of being greedy and trying to sign evryone...
I agree the Rangers probably overspent for Drury, but there were other teams competing to sign him that I am sure were offering around the same amount. Henrik's contract is no doubt high, but he is only 26 and is in the upper-echelon of goalies. Outside of giving him a ridiculous 15 year contract, the Rangers were going to have to pay him a high amount to keep the length of the contract reasonable.

Again, I don't want to make the Rangers sound as if they spend like a small market team, or are the model franchise of the NHL. It just is irritating that many on HF feel that because they signed two premier free agents in one off-season they are the bumbling and evil Rangers of 98-04.

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I don't know what your talking about, abusing something doesn't require to break rules but doesn't make it morally right either.
please explain how they are abusing anything. That's laughable.

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please explain how they are abusing anything. That's laughable.
Well that was the subject of the thread, why don't you take the time to read it.

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Well that was the subject of the thread, why don't you take the time to read it.

If they can manage to fit them under the cap it's brilliant or maybe risky and dangerous management... not abuse. I ask again please explain what abuse you are talking about.

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I ask again please explain what abuse you are talking about.
I think he's abusing HF posters, you especially right now.

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I know its a bit late to react... but i was looking at the salary cap of the rangers... what have they done !

Scott Gomez: 7,35 millions
Chris Drury: 7,05 millions
Henrik Lundqvist: 6,87 millions



And they want to sign Jagr and Sundin ?

Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
wow, they just signed Wade Redden to 6.5 million a season. Now they have 27.77 million on four players. Opps i for got to add Rosaval at 5 million also.

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wow, they just signed Wade Redden to 6.5 million a season. Now they have 27.77 million on four players. Opps i for got to add Rosaval at 5 million also.
They are going to have to sign 3 or 4 guys for league min.

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Sather thinks Gomez is Wayne Gretzky and that he can do with Lee Fogolin

edit: Rosival and Reddon lol

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Those nhl owners are completly crazy... they are ruining the league by abusing free agency...
How? That's what the salary cap is for? I don't see the Rangers signing everybody. Just people they can fit under the cap. Right? Am I missing something? Do the Rangers not have a cap?

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