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07-02-2008, 01:42 AM
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What is your plan of action for tomorrow?

since I have to meet a client in about 6 and a half hours, I wont be on till about noon-2:00. Heres what I would like done.

right now the team looks something like...

Prucha Gomez Callahan
Dawes Drury Korpikoski
Sjostrom Dubinsky Rismiller
Voros Betts Orr
Hollweg
Byers

Staal Redden
Rozsival Girardi
Tyutin Backman
Pock

Henrik Vally.

Weve got 9 million to spend.

Waive Backman
now you have 11.3 million to spend.

Waive Hollweg
now you have 11.8 million to spend.

Trade Tyutin for this guy:


Ottawa needs defense, and hes an RFA.

Sign him for 3 years at 2.2 per

11.8+2.8-2.2=12.4

Sign Marian Hossa for 6 years @ 8 mil per

Sign Brooks Orpik for 4 Years @ 4.4 per

Your roster now looks like this:

Vermette Gomez Hossa
Dawes Drury Callahan
Korpikoski Dubinsky Prucha
Sjostrom Betts Voros
Orr/Rismiller

Staal Redden
Rozsival Orpik
Girardi Potter
Pock

Lundqvist
Valliquette.

You will have ZERO cap flexibility for the next 4 years. Basically the Rangers will be fielding this exact team for the next 4 years, more or less. You have just enough money with cap increase to resign your RFA's. As kids come up, you can trade pieces for picks to make room, and stockpile more talent in the minors. For example, you can build up Pruchas value this year, and then trade him to make room for Cherepanov next year. You can build up value in Potter or Girardi, and trade them to make room for Sanguinetti, and so on.


Thoughts?


I guess ive been a little *****y today, which probably goes with the territory of being a stat junkie and a very analytical person, but I think this could work both short term, and long term.

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07-02-2008, 01:47 AM
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Prucha Gomez Callahan
Dawes Drury Korpikoski
Sjostrom Dubinsky Rismiller
Voros Betts Orr
Hollweg
Byers

Staal Redden
Rozsival Girardi
Tyutin Backman
Pock

Henrik Vally.

roster right now.

what i expect.

Naslund-Dubinsky-Jagr
Dawes-Gomez-Korpedo
Callahan-Drury-Callahan
Jamtin-Betts-Rissmiller
Voros-Orr

Redden-Rozsival
Staal-Tyutin
Girardi-Potter
Sauer

Henke-Vally

Signings:

JJ for 6 mil per for 2 years
Naslund for 2.75 per for 3 years
Dawes for 900k per for 3 years
Sjostrom for 600k per for 3 years

Waiving:
Backman takes out 2.3 cap hit.

I believe by either tommorrow or July 3rd Naslund and Jagr will become and stay a Ranger. Naslund has stated several times that he would take 2-3 mil per for a contender, and i think the swedes on the team softens the cap hit.

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07-02-2008, 01:52 AM
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Good ideas Inferno, truly.

However, I doubt the main 4 of what you mention happen.

That being:

Us signing Hossa
Us waiving Backman
Us trading Tyutin
Us signing Orpik

I say if your still going to push for Orpik, get rid of Backman, not Tyutin, as we would want Orpik to upgrade our physicality. Losing Tyutin for Orpik only replaces a bit of physicality.

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07-02-2008, 01:54 AM
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Good ideas Inferno, truly.

However, I doubt the main 4 of what you mention happen.

That being:

Us signing Hossa
Us waiving Backman
Us trading Tyutin
Us signing Orpik

I say if your still going to push for Orpik, get rid of Backman, not Tyutin, as we would want Orpik to upgrade our physicality. Losing Tyutin for Orpik only replaces a bit of physicality.
i think the only thing that is iminent is waiving backman. his cap hit is too high for a 3rd pairing dman. and i doubt we get Orpik, i think he'll return to the 'Burgh, and Hossa will go where the money is in Edmonton.

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Good ideas Inferno, truly.

However, I doubt the main 4 of what you mention happen.

That being:

Us signing Hossa
Us waiving Backman
Us trading Tyutin
Us signing Orpik

I say if your still going to push for Orpik, get rid of Backman, not Tyutin, as we would want Orpik to upgrade our physicality. Losing Tyutin for Orpik only replaces a bit of physicality.
Right, but in your scenario its

Team+Orpik-Backman

in my scenario its:
Team+Orpik+Vermette-Backman-Tyutin

I like that better balance in the offensive zone. Youd have a guy that could actually skate with Gomez and Hossa, and youd have the crease clearer. If you do it your way, the defense will be unbelievably stacked, but it would away from the offense by a player of Vermettes capability.

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07-02-2008, 02:00 AM
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Right, but in your scenario its

Team+Orpik-Backman

in my scenario its:
Team+Orpik+Vermette-Backman-Tyutin

I like that better balance in the offensive zone. Youd have a guy that could actually skate with Gomez and Hossa, and youd have the crease clearer. If you do it your way, the defense will be unbelievably stacked, but it would away from the offense by a player of Vermettes capability.
Oh, well I was just talking about straight up Orpik/Backman defense situation, I wasn't addressing forwards. I say we should make a trade/push for guys like Vermette, Cheechoo..

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07-02-2008, 02:01 AM
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Oh, well I was just talking about straight up Orpik/Backman defense situation, I wasn't addressing forwards. I say we should make a trade/push for guys like Vermette, Cheechoo..
agreed, but in order to get those kinds of guys, you need to have salary come off the books (assuming you also want Jagr or Hossa signed).

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07-02-2008, 02:09 AM
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Not sure if Orpik is still in the game plan for Slats.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/range...ng_in_the.html

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Apparently, the Rangers had a decision to make between hard-hitting Pittsburgh defenseman Brooks Orpik (who was believed to be looking for a deal in the 4 years, $20-million range) and Redden. They chose Redden, and if Orpik signs out of the Division, everyone will be thanking them.
Who knows?

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I don't think they have that much money left. did you include the Shanahan and Jagr dead cap space?

for me, Backman has to be gone. sign a bargain-bin free agent physical d-man like Montador or Sean Hill.

and there's not much room up front so hopefully they can sign either Sundin or Jagr for around 6.5. failing that, hope for rain. either way, we'll be incredibly thin up front.

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Prucha Gomez Callahan
Dawes Drury Korpikoski
Sjostrom Dubinsky Rismiller
Voros Betts Orr
Hollweg
Byers

very weak offense ... we still need 2 good wingers


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Not sure if Orpik is still in the game plan for Slats.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/range...ng_in_the.html



Who knows?

Sigh...wrong choice.

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We need wingers. Badly. Simple as that. I'm really beginning to think Naslund might be a decent gamble.

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Sign Jagr for 2 years 6 M cap hit

Trade Backman fo 6th round pick to San Jose

Trade Tyutin, Prucha and a 2nd for Jakub Voracek to Columbus

Sign Straka to 1 year 2 M deal

Sign Sundin for 2 years 7 M cap hit

and than we will see ...


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Sign Jagr for 2 years 6 M cap hit

Trade Backman fo 6th round pick to San Jose

Trade Tyutin, Prucha and a 2nd for Jakub Voracek to Columbus

Sign Straka to 1 year 2 M deal

Sign Sundin for 2 years 7 M cap hit

and than we will see ...


7 + 6 - 2.9 - 1.7 + 2 + .875 - 2.3 = 10.505

It just barely doesnt fit. and i doubt Columbus accepts that deal

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We need wingers. Badly. Simple as that. I'm really beginning to think Naslund might be a decent gamble.
he wont be expensive either, only 2-3 mil per.

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Hey Inferno,

I visit most of the ranger related blogs and websites. All the other blogs have the commenting feature but yours at RangersReview.com are turned off. I thought the idea of a blog was to interact with those that choose to visit. Just wondering.

Thanks

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I know this will be flamed - but I could see this going down
I do not like it - but it seems like a big risk short term deal that Sather might do

Waive/trade Backman
Dump Hollweg

Sign Forsberg at 1 year at 4 million
Sign Naslund at 1 year at 3 million
Sign orpik at 3 years 3,5 million
Sign hutchinsson 1 year at 650

Naslund - Forsberg - Prucha
Dawes - Gomez - Drury
Sjostrom - Dubinsky - Callahan
Rissmiller - Betts - Orr/Voros

Jamtin

Rozie - Redden
Tyutin - Staal
Orpik - Girardi

Hutch

Hank
Vally

oUCH

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07-02-2008, 05:29 AM
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Waive Hollweg - 0,512 off the books
Trade Backman for 5-7th round pick who might be interested - or just waive him.
Trade for Havlat - Toots+3rd round pick might do it?
Chicago needs to get under the cap...it has nothing to with fact that i'm Czech and Havlat fan

Sign Jagr - 2years 7m$ per

Backman + Hollweg -> 2,8m$ minus
Toots -> 2,8m$ minus
Havlat -> one year remaining on the contract - 6m$ plus
Jagr ->7m$ plus

7,4m$ in total...thats managable.

Prucha-Dubi-Jagr
Drury-Gomez-Havlat
Dawes-Rissmiler/Anisimov-Callahan
Voros-Betts-Sjo
Orr

Redden-Staal
Rozsi-Potter/Sangs
Pock-Girardi

Me like. Havlat is huge gamble, but it's worth of risk imo. He would be good with Gomez, both are playing quick and explosive game.


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You will have ZERO cap flexibility for the next 4 years. Basically the Rangers will be fielding this exact team for the next 4 years, more or less. You have just enough money with cap increase to resign your RFA's. As kids come up, you can trade pieces for picks to make room, and stockpile more talent in the minors. For example, you can build up Pruchas value this year, and then trade him to make room for Cherepanov next year. You can build up value in Potter or Girardi, and trade them to make room for Sanguinetti, and so on.
I am against inferno's team for this reason.

Like Marian Hossa don't contribute all that much when he isn't scoring.

I just don't trust him enough, nor thinks he is a good fit in our system at all as a counter attack forward, to invest in him to that extent.

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I am against inferno's team for this reason.

Like Marian Hossa don't contribute all that much when he isn't scoring.

I just don't trust him enough, nor thinks he is a good fit in our system at all as a counter attack forward, to invest in him to that extent.
i agree with you Hossa isnt a top guy to have on a team, he needs someone to be better than him

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Also, everyone is screaming for that crease clearing D -- Marc Staal will be a year older this season. Kids the age he is develops allot in thoose years. Expects him to play defensivly on a regular basis as he played at his very best last season.

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Sign Sundin and Jagr, 2 year each and 6m per!!!

I know it won't happend, but it would be awsome.

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Sign Sundin and Jagr, 2 year each and 6m per!!!

I know it won't happend, but it would be awsome.
unless we waive Backman and trade tyutin or Prucha its not going to happen. personally i'd rather sign JJ and Nazzy and get a nasty SOB 3rd pairing guy. it wont happen but i can dream...

Ola what do people think of Naslund in Sweden?

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I don't know, inferno...

now that the team's defense is solidified for the next five years (which isn't a bad thing, but it would've been nice to have included Orpik), the focus is on forwards. I do wonder if Prucha, one of Girardi or Toots, plus something else may be moving some place for some stud winger. Pushing Staal out of the top four after last season doesn't seem like something the organization is trying to do; at least I don't think.

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now that the team's defense is solidified for the next five years (which isn't a bad thing, but it would've been nice to have included Orpik), the focus is on forwards. I do wonder if Prucha, one of Girardi or Toots, plus something else may be moving some place for some stud winger. Pushing Staal out of the top four after last season doesn't seem like something the organization is trying to do; at least I don't think.
Do you think maybe the Rangers are trying to make a deal then sign Orpik....can be a posibility? The Rangers are probably the one team where you cant predict what they'll do next, its either a good thing or a bad thing....hopfully its a good thing (which i think would be Naslund, and JJ).

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