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06-29-2008, 05:41 PM
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NikeBauer Vapor XVI vs. XXII Skates

Hey all, i'm gonna buy new skates and I was wondering what the difference was between the NikeBauer Vapor XVI and XXII skates. (beside the price.) Should I spring the extra $30 for the XXII? I'm trying to save a little $$. Thanks.

XVI: http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BV16S

XXII: http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BV22S

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Hey all, i'm gonna buy new skates and I was wondering what the difference was between the NikeBauer Vapor XVI and XXII skates. (beside the price.) Should I spring the extra $30 for the XXII? I'm trying to save a little $$. Thanks.

XVI: http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BV16S

XXII: http://www.icewarehouse.com/descpage.html?pcode=BV22S

The biggest differences are going to be the stiffness and the holder/runner combo.

The XXIIs have the LS2 holder and runner which are independant of each other. If one breaks the other is replaceable. The XVIs come with a LS Pro holder that has a blade fused in and is one piece. If either part breaks you would need to replace the entire thing. Also, if you sharpen it down till it's very thin, replacing it means replacing the entire thing as well.

Most hockey shops carry LS2 holders and steel, but not too many stock up on the LS Pro. Your chances of getting a quicker replacement if something happens with the XXIIs is higher.

Like I said, the XXIIs are a bit stiffer, but not by a ton. Not as stiff as a XXXX or Supreme70 even.

I think the stiffness (which will lend itself to a longer life) and the better holder/runner combo is worth an extra $30 dollars.

Remember when you are buying skates, it's always best to have tried the skates on before purchasing. You may like the way NikeBauer skates look, but if they don't fit your foot then you might want to keep looking.

You always look better scoring in a less fashionable skate then eating snow in a good looking skate.

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The LS pro holder uses a carbon steel blade as opposed to the LS2 holder that uses stainless steel. Carbon steel is softer, rusts out, and loses its edge quicker.

Spend the extra $30 and get the skate with the stainless blades.

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The LS pro holder uses a carbon steel blade as opposed to the LS2 holder that uses stainless steel. Carbon steel is softer, rusts out, and loses its edge quicker.

Spend the extra $30 and get the skate with the stainless blades.
But on the description it says both skates use stainless steel runners?

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i got the XXV's & they are fantastic, fit like a glove out of the box (no bake).
The XXII's are a step down but still pretty good.

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But on the description it says both skates use stainless steel runners?

I looked it up in the catalog, and it does say stainless. However, looking at the picture you can tell that it is not the same grade steel that is in the lightspeed holder. It's still worth the $30 to get the XXII instead.

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I looked it up in the catalog, and it does say stainless. However, looking at the picture you can tell that it is not the same grade steel that is in the lightspeed holder. It's still worth the $30 to get the XXII instead.
It's not the same grade.

Another thing about the fused holder, the plastic is completely encasing the metal. THere's no buffer whatsoever so you need a good sharpener. I've seen guys heat the metal up when sharpening it to the point where the plastic starts bubbling out. Yeah, i kicked him off the machine.

This can happen with an LS2 as well (and a horrible sharpener) but not as likely since there is minute space between the holder and steel.

Neither is a bad skate, but the XXII is better. And more than $30 better IMO

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Just checked, my bad, Vapor XXII and Vapor XVI come with the same runner.

The difference is that the XXIIs have LS2 holders so you can replace the steel.

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