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07-03-2008, 12:58 AM
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Won't be official for another day or two. Premature threadulation.

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07-03-2008, 01:00 AM
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They have $47.1M committed in salary if this is true. Plus they still need to fill five (5) places on the club (as far as I know).

Next year, Malkin will take up an $8.7M cap hit. Jordan Staal will also get a nice raise, probably up around the $3M mark. That's almost $12M in salary they will need to add.. and still have those five (5) positions to fill. They will free up approximately $7M in contracts (Sykora, Sydor, and Hill).. but this will in turn, cause them the need to add three (3) more players bringing it to a total of eight (8) players for minimal money.


Lines are not exact.

Malkin - Crosby - Sykora
Staal - Dupuis - Godard
Talbot - Kennedy - ???
??? - ??? - ???
???

Gonchar - Orpik
Whitney - Sydor
Gill - Eaton
Letang - Scuderi

Sabourin
Fleury
If this is true, we have roughly 8M to spend this year. Next year we would have 40.63M spent without adding in any FA signed this year. We have three promising young grinders to fight for those 4th line spots.

Say the cap increases to 60M we have close to 20M to spend minus any FA signed.

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07-03-2008, 01:13 AM
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Threat title changed to Rumor, as this isn't confirmed yet.

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07-03-2008, 03:01 AM
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They have $47.1M committed in salary if this is true. Plus they still need to fill five (5) places on the club (as far as I know).

Next year, Malkin will take up an $8.7M cap hit. Jordan Staal will also get a nice raise, probably up around the $3M mark. That's almost $12M in salary they will need to add.. and still have those five (5) positions to fill. They will free up approximately $7M in contracts (Sykora, Sydor, and Hill).. but this will in turn, cause them the need to add three (3) more players bringing it to a total of eight (8) players for minimal money.


Lines are not exact.

Malkin - Crosby - Sykora
Staal - Dupuis - Godard
Talbot - Kennedy - ???
??? - ??? - ???
???

Gonchar - Orpik
Whitney - Sydor
Gill - Eaton
Letang - Scuderi

Sabourin
Fleury

You really ought to learn a thing or fifty about the NHL salary cap, players salaries and players skill.

First off:

UFA - Crosby - UFA
Staal - Malkin - Sykora
Kennedy - Talbot - Dupuis
Minor leaguer (Stone) - Minor leaguer (Brent) - Goddard

Secondly:

Malkin's salary is only a raise of rougly $4.87 million per season, and your projection of a $3 million hit for Staal is only $800,000 more than his cap his this year.

So in reality, add that $5.67 million to the $47.1 and you still have cap room for this season (even though the contracts don't kick in until 2009 when the cap will be around $59 million). Goligoski will come in and take over for Sydor, so by then we have 6 NHL caliber defenders on the squad.

Add Bertuzzi and Naslund this season and the Pens are fine. So sorry to all of the Penguin haters out there.

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07-03-2008, 03:49 AM
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So sorry to all of the Penguin haters out there.
There's a big difference having a situation most teams would swap for in a heart beat compared to having what we've been hoping to have.
Clearly, free agency has hurt us big time. If others want to point that out, its something we can hardly talk our way out of.

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07-03-2008, 06:33 AM
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So does half a season of stellar play = a big contract? I remember a few months back we were predicting Fleury would sign for 3-4 million. Now it's 5.5?? I'm a little sick of players excelling down the homestretch of their contract year and all of a sudden commanding big dollars

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Overpayment! He had a couple of good months after a very mediocre career and he's worth that much money for 6 years? Pens fans better hope the last 2 months weren't a fluke.

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07-03-2008, 08:22 AM
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The Pens did a good job. An offseason where they extended Malkin, signed Fleury long term and re-signed one of Hossa, Malone, and Orpik sounds like a success to me considering the circumstances.

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09-10 Confirmed Salaries:
Crosby - 8.7
Malkin - 8.7
Fleury - 5.5
Gonchar - 5
Whitney - 4
Orpik - 3.75
Dupuis - 1.4
Godard - .55

Oh snap! The Penguins have 37.6 already used up on contracts to their two Hart candidate centers, their franchise goalie, and their top three defensemen! WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?

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07-03-2008, 08:43 AM
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So does half a season of stellar play = a big contract? I remember a few months back we were predicting Fleury would sign for 3-4 million. Now it's 5.5?? I'm a little sick of players excelling down the homestretch of their contract year and all of a sudden commanding big dollars
Just wait until Jordan Staal puts up 20-25 goals this season. He'll be asking for a salary similar to Jeff Carter. It's just the way the current market is.

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07-03-2008, 09:29 AM
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09-10 Confirmed Salaries:
Crosby - 8.7
Malkin - 8.7
Fleury - 5.5
Gonchar - 5
Whitney - 4
Orpik - 3.75
Dupuis - 1.4
Godard - .55

Oh snap! The Penguins have 37.6 already used up on contracts to their two Hart candidate centers, their franchise goalie, and their top three defensemen! WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO?
Apparently fill the rest of their roster with players that aren't as good or expensive as the ones that left.

Every team, other than it seems the Wings, goes through this. You go on a deep playoff run and everybody demands a raise of much more than what was previously expected or earned. Anybody that thinks the Pens go 2 or 3 or 4 rounds into the next playoffs without Staal and several others demanding big bucks are nuts. No way is Staal going to re-sign for $3 per based off of what he's done so far, how much will he get if he's key to getting them into the Conference finals or S.C. finals again?

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Not bad for a guy just a year ago everyone said would be a career choker in the playoffs, and this from someone who thought he was rather overrated in his draft year, but you have to call a spade a spade.

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Where are the numbers coming from, associated with this story? It's certainly not the linked Post-Gazette article.

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What are you talking about, if this is 100% correct, they have 9M to spend this year.
Since when does Pittsburgh spend to the Cap anyways??

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Apparently fill the rest of their roster with players that aren't as good or expensive as the ones that left.

Every team, other than it seems the Wings, goes through this. You go on a deep playoff run and everybody demands a raise of much more than what was previously expected or earned. Anybody that thinks the Pens go 2 or 3 or 4 rounds into the next playoffs without Staal and several others demanding big bucks are nuts. No way is Staal going to re-sign for $3 per based off of what he's done so far, how much will he get if he's key to getting them into the Conference finals or S.C. finals again?
If Stall has anywhere close or slightly superior year to his rookie year (ie. 30 goals), he will be looking at 5+ million a year minimum..and I woulden't be surprised if it was 6 million a year. That will bring their total salary on the books in 2009-2010 to around 43 or 44 million already. Pittsburgh has to find a way to get more revenue from thri market or they will have to start trading a few key guys to keep their budgets in order.

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If Stall has anywhere close or slightly superior year to his rookie year (ie. 30 goals), he will be looking at 5+ million a year minimum..and I woulden't be surprised if it was 6 million a year. That will bring their total salary on the books in 2009-2010 to around 43 or 44 million already. Pittsburgh has to find a way to get more revenue from thri market or they will have to start trading a few key guys to keep their budgets in order.
Revenue from their market isn't an issue, especially with the new arena coming, and the fact that one of their owners is one of the richest Americans alive (and he's recently decided that he really likes hockey). No, money is not the problem.

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They can't handle anymore salary... They may be trying to make a team out of Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Letang and Fleury and have a bunch of AHL guys fill in the cracks... That puts alot of stress on those kids.
Staal may not get much. Depends on the upcoming season.

Fleury, Malkin and Crosby do eat alot of the cap but I would like this, if I'm a Pens fan. 5.5 Mill but a good, quality goalie. He definitely proved that this year and a well-earned contract.

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Since when does Pittsburgh spend to the Cap anyways??
One of the Pens owners, Ron Burkle, as said that in light of projected earnings from a new sold out Arena, and to keep ensuring the Pens can field a dynamic winning team, that he'd help bankroll us to be able to spend up to the cap.

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One of the Pens owners, Ron Burkle, as said that in light of projected earnings from a new sold out Arena, and to keep ensuring the Pens can field a dynamic winning team, that he'd help bankroll us to be able to spend up to the cap.
Well that's great news then! Maybe because of we went through with the Expos here and the promises we were told that obviously did not happen. i will go with the "I'll believe it when I see it" approach

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