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07-06-2008, 06:37 PM
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OT: Canadian Citizenship

So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Montreal is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!

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Hmmm... If you think Vancouver, Montreal is not really in the same way...

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Montreal is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!
You can be a dual citizen of Canada and the U.S. I don't know how long it takes, but I have a friend who is in the process and has been for between two and three years... she doesn't have it yet AFAIK. I don't know the answers to any of your other questions, but I'll be interested to see them...

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Welcome! What else can I say?

Check this out.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/immigrate/index.asp

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By entering Canada you must agree to cheer for the habs and hate the Bruins. Thje biggest advantage about canada is health insurance.

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A friend of mine married someone from Florida, waited 4 years & never got it as, the relationship ended before citizenship was granted. But it seems that it could take up to 5 years or more!

Everything else is close, better health care, but a lot higher taxes.

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I figured this board was the best place to ask questions,

Really?

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Montreal is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US? yes

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to) The link given above tells you everything you need to know. You need to apply at a mission abroad, ie consulate or embassy, you will then be scored and if you meet the requirements you can be granted permanent residence which is the first step. And yes you can have duel citizenship so no need to give you your US

How long does the process take? There is somewhat of a backlog so permanent residence can take 6months or more

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....In many ways like the US, health insurance is not the same for the most part as the US as we have universal health care. the employment market is still fairly strong and as mentioned skilled workers are always needed.

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US? If/when you move here there are certain rules and you will have to complete a series of forms with all the items you are bringing to Canada.

thanks so much!
So ya this is more or less what you are looking for I think.

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One factor I should add, from Montreal, but have lived for extended periods in Toronto & Edmonton & also worked 6 Month's in Atlanta. (Work wise I felt no difference between the 2 countries.) One thing is that you never feel unsafe in Canada as opposed to large center's in the States.

Also, depending on your background there are certain jobs you cannot get without citizenship like airport work & that kinda genre comes to mind. So in some cases If I remember you need someone to sign & sponsor you or something like that. All info should be online.

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My fiancee came here from Malaysia in 2006. We started the process in October of that year and by May or so of 2007 she was officially a resident. We had to get officially married to be able to get it done, but since you are a US citizen I am not sure if it differs.

I had to sponsor her (basically saying i will take care of her financially since she cannot officially work here for a year). To start you have to send some forms and about $450 to the Canadian goverment. Those forms can be found on the immigration canada site. Then when you get their OK you have to apply for the same thing for the Quebec Goverment, and again you have to pay about $400.

Once you get approved by both then she will be a resident. After 2-3 yrs she can get citizenship and a canadian passport.

If you have any more specific questions just PM me. It seems really painful but it went very well for us.

oh and once she is a resident (and you) you will both get covered for health insurance by the goverment. You won't have to pay anything but part of the medicine/pills you might need to buy if you fall sick. Everything else is covered.

Dental isn't, that is through work if they offer it.

As for work I am pretty sure it's pretty similar to the US. Typical work hours are 35-40 hrs.


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By entering Canada you must agree to cheer for the habs and hate the Bruins. Thje biggest advantage about canada is health insurance.
Who says you can't live in the US and still hate the Bruins?

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My fiancee came here from Malaysia in 2006.
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Universal health care, healthy economy, safety, relatively few Bible-thumping Jesus freaks are all good reasons to haul your butt in Canada.

In Montréal you can get by speaking only english, however if you learn french you can move to Québec City, which is really booming right now with high pay jobs popping everywhere. Not that it's hard to find a job in Montréal anyway.

Health care has it's pluses and minus, it's free, but it takes longer to get treatment, sometimes. It's getting faster and more efficient now, though.

Gas is 50% more costly though.

As someone who spent time on both sides of the border, Canada is the nicer place to live and raise a family quietly. Just gotta learn the finer points of powershoveling in winter.

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American cities are relatively safe except for the inner cities. The crime rates are supposedly statistically similar except for the inner cities in the USA. Paul Bernardo, Clifford Olson, and the Mayorthorpe copkiller are Canucks.

Health care is obviously guarenteed and cheaper in Canada and education is dramatically cheaper in Canuckland if you have kids. You also are less likely to have to send your kids to fight useless wars in Canuckland although that too seems to be changing. If you develop a mental illness in the USA you are homeless or thrown in prison and drooling sharing a 10 by 10 with 3 paedaphiles.

Labour laws are more stringently enforced in Canada. In some ways this is good but in some ways, without productivity as a measure, the workplace is politicized with worker on worker bullying commonplace.

Taxes are higher in Canada with mortgage interest deductible in the USA. Many Americans seem housepoor however, and there is no Canada pension plan laying a grand a month on you when you are peeing in a bag. Many have large company pensions which are being cut back all the time.

There are not the sheer amount of fantastic economic opportunities to strike it rich as there are in the USA. However, maybe luck and shucksterism is the determining criteria everywhere with Canada not having the critical mass. Alberta is booming. $100.00 per hour is commonplace (my fee which is low).

I saw a program where they indicated that the USA was considering eliminating dual citizenship. The program was about how dual Can/Leb citizens in Lebanon were rescued but not the USA citizens. I had a coworker who was an American citizen who had his wife deliver in the USA for these purposes.

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the Canadian dollar is pretty much topped out right now, you shouldn't expect it to get much better...just so you know.

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Move to Windsor! It right across to Detroit!

You'll love the average person in Detroit and your kids can play with their children!

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You wrote down that you might move to MTL. There's always the question of language. For many job, you don't really need to speak french. But others, you must. If you work with costumers you need french.

But there are other advantages to our latin side: good food, great fun, cute girls....

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That's all fine and dandy and all but I see the Sox in your sig...so NO WAY! And no, I'm not a Yankee fan!

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Alberta is booming. $100.00 per hour is commonplace (my fee which is low).

100 dollars per hour is commonplace? What is it that you do?

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It is possible to be a dual citizen of both the US and Canada - a citizen of the US because your were born in the US, and also a citizen of Canada if you went through the Canadian naturalization process (this doesn't cause you to lose your US citizenship).

If you have kids in Canada (and are citizens), they will automatically get dual citizenship.

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Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?
Yes. no problem

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How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)
You have to get landed immigrant status. Once you get landed immigrant status you can live and work anywhere in Canada.

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How long does the process take?
Once you have your papers you have to live three years in Canada to apply for citizenship.

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What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?thanks so much!
If you move to Quebec, you'll have to learn French. English will get you around but a working knowledge of French is necessary. The rest of Canada you don't need French. I see you're from North Carolina. LOL DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WEATHER IS LIKE UP HERE?
Canada is more socialist than the states so look to pay more in your taxes but then there's alot that the state takes cares for you.

Other than that you have to live in a place to get a feel for it. Most posters on this site hate T.O. I like the city and wouldn't mind living there. Vancouver is another city. Maybe you like small cities, rural areas, small towns.

Good luck

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