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07-06-2008, 06:55 PM
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OT: Canadian Citizenship

So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Edmonton is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Edmonton is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!
Yes you can have dual citizenship, exactly what that entails I'm not exactly sure but I do know it's possible.

Living in Canada has a lot of perks, health care being one of the best ones especially in Alberta. You do have to get your citizenship to be able to be protected under Alberta health care though. Depending on your profession benefit plans are great for most businesses, pay obviously depends also a lot on what you do but around Edmonton I know there are tons of jobs.

I would say your biggest hurdle would be moving all your possessions such a long distance and across the border.

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Edmonton is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!

Being a hurracane fan, oiler fans may have to explain how to understand hockey to you

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Being a hurracane fan oiler fans may have to explain how to understand hockey to you
What the hell is this?

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You should be able to find all the info you need here.Good luck to you, hope it works out for you.http://canada.gc.ca/home.html or try this link, http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/en/home.shtml about half way down the page Newcomers to Canada


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What the hell is this?
Apparently, once jumptheshark teaches him how to "understand hockey", ecusiouxcanesguy can return the favour by teaching jumptheshark how to use the english language.

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Alberta has no sales tax except for the 5%GST which is federal, it has the least amount of provincial income tax, the economy is booming and there is no problem finding jobs, just pick what you want to do and do it.
there will be no healthcare premiums in alberta starting Jan. It's a great place to live.

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Apparently, once jumptheshark teaches him how to "understand hockey", ecusiouxcanesguy can return the favour by teaching jumptheshark how to use the english language.
I have given up trying to spell and use grammer on these boards--big fingers--little keyboards do no go well together and typing quickly makes it all the worse and having working knowledge of 4 languages just jumbles the grey matter sometimes

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Edmonton is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!
I know you could get a work visa fairly easy but getting citizenship without marrying a canadian citizen is apparently fairly hard (I know a guy from texas working up here and he has a canadian mom and an american dad and he has had alot of trouble getting his citizenship) and I don't think it is possible to have dual citizenship if you dont have a parent from Canada I think you would lose your american citzenship but I might be wrong.

http://www.immigration.ca/

That site should help you find out what you need to know.

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I know you could get a work visa fairly easy but getting citizenship without marrying a canadian citizen is apparently fairly hard (I know a guy from texas working up here and he has a canadian mom and an american dad and he has had alot of trouble getting his citizenship) and I don't think it is possible to have dual citizenship if you dont have a parent from Canada I think you would lose your american citzenship but I might be wrong.

http://www.immigration.ca/

That site should help you find out what you need to know.
You will not lose your American citizenship unless your renounce it yourself. The US technically does not recognize dual citizenship but Canada does. You can hold a passport for both countries simultaneously.

What do you do for a living? The skill set you have makes a big difference in terms of an application for permanent residency. This is the first step towards citizenship. However, once you become a permanent resident you are eligible for healthcare and other social benefits. Citizenship allows you to vote.

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So, with the way the US Economy is going to ****, my fiance and I are looking at moving to Canada at some point in the next few years. I figured this board was the best place to ask questions, and since Edmonton is one of the places we are thinking about, I figured I would ask here.

Can you get dual citizenship with Canada and the US?

How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?

What is it like to live in Canada? i.e. laws, health insurance, work, etc.....

How difficult is moving between Canada and the US?

thanks so much!
No one wants to live in Edmonton. Your wife isnt an heiress to a large family fortune is she?

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I have given up trying to spell and use grammer on these boards--big fingers--little keyboards do no go well together and typing quickly makes it all the worse and having working knowledge of 4 languages just jumbles the grey matter sometimes
You blame your dyslexia on your fingers?

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Unless you have a higher degree and or major experience in a specific field Canada is looking for I have heard it is a nightmare to move up here. Speaking to some of my American friends. Also their is the cost of immigration which is fairly steep compared to other countries. I cannot remember if the Tories did away with the $1000 immigration fee or not so you might want to check into that.

As others said Landed Immigrant Status will allow you to have the social benefits. The biggest things, taxes are higher here, including Alberta, then most are used to however we do not make you pay to use our roads unless you are in BC.

At the end of the day talk to an Immigration lawyer, they can advise best and will know what your chances are from the offset.

As someone who has tried to move the other way that is my best suggestion.

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How do you go about becoming a Canadian citizen (and giving up your US citizenship if you have to)

How long does the process take?
Become a draft dodger......

Join the US Army, sneak across the border - stand in front of the television cameras & burn your US birth certificate - they throw a parade for you & make you an instant Canadian.

That is the way it works in Eastern Canada - we frown on that strategy in Alberta............

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Just drive on up or fly and when you get to the customs counter just say "refugee". You will be taken care of 'til the day you die.

Seriously though, Alberta does have the lowest taxation scheme by far, and as of the first of 2009, no Healthcare premiums, absolutely insane amount of jobs (skilled or unskilled), few Liberals, for the most part is very clean, two NHL teams ( one pro, and one semi-pro team to the south), however the cost of living is probably going to be higher than what you two pay now but it is certainly not a hardship as long as you are not working a Mcjob.

I make 80,000+ a year and have zero problems making ends meet as a single person living in Edmonton.

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I make 80,000+ a year and have zero problems making ends meet as a single person living in Edmonton.
no one in the united states should have a problem making ends meet with that income either. while married with kids. unless theyre absolute idiots.

ps - jumptheshark. wow. how can he post here consistently and they kicked off that 12 year old kid who had more to say?

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What do you do for a living? The skill set you have makes a big difference in terms of an application for permanent residency. This is the first step towards citizenship. However, once you become a permanent resident you are eligible for healthcare and other social benefits. Citizenship allows you to vote.
I don't think that's quite correct. As far as I know, once the new rules were implemented 5-6 years ago, the intended occupation is no longer as important as education. The NOC (National Occupational Classification) lists the eligible occupations. Pretty much any job which requires a college or University degree is eligible. Here's the job matrix from the NOC website, if you are on the first three lines (0, A, B) you qualify.

http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC-CNP/docs...er_English.pdf

Work experience is also important, however it doesn't necessarily have to be in your intended occupation in Canada, asw long as is among the eligible jobs from NOC list. For example, if you worked in IT but your intended occupation in Canada is in business management, you can claim work experience.

A more important determinant is education. Before it was a huge difference if one applied as a computer scientist vs. physicist or mathematician. If I recall correctly there was about 20 pts more for an IT job, even if the education level was lower. Now the system doesn't make any distinction between skill; any eligible skill with a PhD will get more points than any eligible skill with a BSc, for example.

You can try this self assessment tool to check if you satisfy the minimum point requirements.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...sess/index.asp

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