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07-07-2008, 06:58 PM
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Problem is that I bet Carbonneau doesn't use him as a 7th guy and still uses him in a top-4 role again.

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I dont think Dandeneault is gonna play foward again with the depth we have.. Having him as 7th Dmen would be fine..

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07-07-2008, 07:49 PM
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I dont think Dandeneault is gonna play foward again with the depth we have.. Having him as 7th Dmen would be fine..
I agree, if the market for the 7th d-man is so slim, why not play Dandy in that position instead if buying him out and getting nothing in return. He's fast, he can move the puck up the ice, if Carbo limits his playing time and makes sure he's not matched up against top 2 lines, then he should be ok.

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I agree, if the market for the 7th d-man is so slim, why not play Dandy in that position instead if buying him out and getting nothing in return. He's fast, he can move the puck up the ice, if Carbo limits his playing time and makes sure he's not matched up against top 2 lines, then he should be ok.
Thats my thought exactly..

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07-07-2008, 09:48 PM
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To hell with a #7 defenseman.

Apparently, the Panthers are shopping Jay Bouwmeester. And Jacques Martin hasn't exactly been winning deals lately.

A top 4 of Markov, Bouwmeester, Komisarek and Hamrlik would kick butt.
That would be a big dream come true...here is a bigger dream!

Since he would become a UFA next year if they don't come to terms in contract before his arbitration I think Martin has to trade him now to get fair value, especially since Dmen are highly coveted by all teams right now.

It would be an expensive move to make, but one that could be done to build a solid top 4 around if Montreal could get him. Imagine that top four of Markov, Komisarek, Bouwmeester and Hamrlik? That would have to be as good or better that those of San Jose, Anaheim and Detroit!

I think a package of Higgins and/or a top prospect(s) and pick have to go the other way.

Higgins - added left winger depth and possible centre
O'Byrne - Dman who can play now, plus has top 4 capability
Rights to Yemelin - will he come over? If he does is there space on that Montreal D?
2nd rounder 09' Draft

Seems like a lot (maybe not enough), but this is your line up if Mats can be brought in too:

Tanguay - Mats - Latendresse
A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev
S. Kostitsyn - Koivu - Laraque
Chipchura - Lapierre - Kostopoulos
extra: Begin, Stewart

Markov - Komisarek
Hamrlik - Bouwmeester
Gorges - Bouillon
extra: Henry and Valentenko (Valentenko a call up option when ready, groom like O'Byrne)

Price
Halak

If Montreal could long term both Komisarek and Bouwmeester our D would be set for the next 4-5 years with a lot of kids coming in with McDonagh, Fischer, Subban, Weber, Carle, Valentenko. As good as O'Bynre is he ain't no Bouwmeester and truth be told so many D prospects can't all make the team and if some can be used in get in players I say go for it.

Higgins is a loss, but his potential salary will probably equal the pay coming to Bouwmeester and if Max Pacioretty can make the jump next year then we off set the loss.

Maybe such a move intices Mats to come? It shows a real go for it attitude to win now.

I'm not a big fan of Lats on the top line, but truth be told he probably could do well with those two.

Send Dandy's salary to the minors to open up some space as well.

Thoughts?

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07-08-2008, 01:30 AM
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Well, our inside source from La Presse (hint: his initials are MAG) says Brisebois wants to get to 1000 NHL games and he's 53 games away from 1000, so perhaps Brisebois really is the one who isn't so sure about coming back as a #7?

I said this yesterday, but I'll say it again, sign Andrew Hutchinson! He could be a sleeper, a player who could have a Jeff Finger type rise to being a NHL regular in his late 20's. At worse, he doesn't make this team, just goes back to the AHL and stars for the Dogs.

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Andrew Hutchinson signed a 1 way 2 year deal today with T bay

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Cap hell is overrated.
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Now, whether Jay Bouwmeester makes the Habs more competitive depends on the trade and what people think of Bouwmeester. I happen to think he's a great player who will continue to improve, so I'd take a chance on him if the opportunity was presented
Very intriguing idea. I agree with this much: BG has been doing well in finding players undervalued by their team (although he too was guilty of that with Ribeiro), often because of disagreements with their respective coaches. JB would fit that mould.

The other counter-argument to the cap issue is that a stacked team entails that very good players get less ice-time than elsewhere, and so based on their stats, may earn a fraction less than where they would be a more important cornerstone. With 4 star defencemen, BG would be in a position to exploit a glaring need of a team that becomes decimated on defence, and has to trade a star forward, especially if the likes of McDonaugh start living up to their promise.

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I said this yesterday, but I'll say it again, sign Andrew Hutchinson! He could be a sleeper, a player who could have a Jeff Finger type rise to being a NHL regular in his late 20's. At worse, he doesn't make this team, just goes back to the AHL and stars for the Dogs.

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Sounds good, Marc. He replaces Streit cheaply, and is bigger.

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Andrew Hutchinson signed a 1 way 2 year deal today with T bay
Woops, didn't see this part. Fantasy sleeper, replacing Boyle on a PP with Lecav and St-Louis.


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He is tough as nails and a good fighter. Would fit in as 6th or 7th dman and add more toughness

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I agree, if the market for the 7th d-man is so slim, why not play Dandy in that position instead if buying him out and getting nothing in return.
Buying him out is no longer possible and the ''get rid of Dandy'' sentiment is basically tied into a Sundin signing, which would create a cap crunch and Dandy's 1.725 M to be a depth player would be too much.

Frickin' TB stealing Hutchinson.

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He takes his role as the 7th dman well
Actually he complained he wasn't playing as much as he would've liked to last year.

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07-08-2008, 04:20 PM
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Hi guys,

It has been a long time since I have posted since the ban, but I am back and have a new attitude!

Just wanted to pass a tidbit along to you. I work at the Ottawa Hunt and Golf Club, and the Bell family happens to be members at our club.

Anyways, I was talking to Brandon Bell's father the other day and he was telling me that the Habs offered Brendan a contract, but that "it wasn't quite good enough".

I guess this fits in with Gainey saying they needed a 7th dman.

Anyways, thought you may want to know!

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07-10-2008, 11:19 AM
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I saw a rumor crop up on another site recently that stated Brisebois may have signed a 2 year deal. Take it for what it's worth

"A personal friend of Brisebois, Gino Rosato (employee of Ferrari) is saying that Brisebois is about to sign a 2 year contract."

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07-10-2008, 11:38 AM
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If we can't get Sundin, I'd go for Bouweester.

Or stick with the Breezer, even though he's horrible.

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yeah sure, lets deal Pacioretty, SKostitsyn and a 1st round pick for him.



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07-10-2008, 04:07 PM
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i wonder what it would take to get Schneider from burke? he likes tough guys, so maybe like kostopolous+carle+pick? lol

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get shiender and move obryne

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get shiender and move obryne
No. Get Schneider and move Bouillon.

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i wonder what it would take to get Schneider from burke? he likes tough guys, so maybe like kostopolous+carle+pick? lol
I don't think a 39 year old $5.625M cap hit D is what this team needs.

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What's wrong with having Valentenko or Carle at bay if needed? We also have Dandenault if we need him..

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The need for a quality top 4 to play with Hamrlik is greater than the need for a 7th dman. We already have a bunch of guys that can be the 7th guy back there...

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