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07-08-2008, 02:19 PM
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lol...I'm not expecting Carbo to lie. But there are always ways to get your point across, without well....coming out and saying it.
Exactly. And being one of the main spokespersons for the Canadiens, he should have the ability to do such things. Instead more often than not, he chooses to do otherwise - regardless if he means it in fun or not.

Maybe he needs some sensitivity training. lol

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thing is, he's working on impressions like everyone else. Thinking that this guy who did work on some projects with Souray could predict the future is kind of futile.

It's all, 'based on my impression', 'from what I've been told' and nothing is sure until it happens.
Well quite. The point I was trying to make though, is that these so called experts who hang around the team all the time hardly know any more than the rest of us do.

It was obvious Souray was leaving to be fair. And although he didn't get anything near the contract he was expecting, he'd already kind of burnt his bridges with Montreal by rejecting Bob's first offer. There was no coming back after that. The money probably went towards Hamerlik anyway.

The subject's been discussed exhaustively last season I guess so let's not fall back into that.



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07-08-2008, 02:22 PM
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Who cares? **** Ryder.

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07-08-2008, 02:25 PM
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Exactly. And being one of the main spokespersons for the Canadiens, he should have the ability to do such things. Instead more often than not, he chooses to do otherwise - regardless if he means it in fun or not.

Maybe he needs some sensitivity training. lol
lol...I'd personally pay to be able to watch that.

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Who cares? **** Ryder.
Maybe we should all chip in to send WTK to the same class.

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07-08-2008, 02:26 PM
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glad I don't live in a world where people analyze every off hand comment I've ever made.

From the day Carbo said good bye to the AHL and arrived in Mtl, he's always spoke in a wry sort of bemused way, used a bit of humour , and kept things at that.

To make more of it is just people wanting to. Does anyone really think anything differently of anyone at this moment ? Who cares ?
He should know by now that people are gonna scrutinise every comment he makes. My guess is he doesn't care either way.

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Who cares? **** Ryder.
We're not talking about Ryder, we're talking about how the team is viewed by the rest of the league - and free agents. What Carbo/Gainey and the rest of the staff say in the media has a direct effect on what players in the NHL think about a team, and plays a factor on whether or not they want to come to this hockey-crazed city.

It's easy to get a bad reputation. It's a lot harder to get rid of one.

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We're not talking about Ryder, we're talking about how the team is viewed by the rest of the league - and free agents. What Carbo/Gainey and the rest of the staff say in the media has a direct effect on what players in the NHL think about a team, and plays a factor on whether or not they want to come to this hockey-crazed city.

It's easy to get a bad reputation. It's a lot harder to get rid of one.
What's wrong with what he said? We all know what I think about Carbonneau. Ryder took a shot at the organization, Carbonneau retaliated when the oppurtunity presented itself and merely pointed the finger that it was Ryder's play and attitude that indicated how he was treated in Montreal.

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Well quite. The point I was trying to make though, is that these so called experts who hang around the team all the time hardly know any more than the rest of us do.It was obvious Souray was leaving to be fair. And although he didn't get anything near the contract he was expecting, he'd already kind of burnt his bridges with Montreal by rejecting Bob's first offer. There was no coming back after that. The money probably went towards Hamerlik anyway.

The subject's been discussed exhaustively last season I guess so let's not fall back into that.


That's exactly the point. Inside info can help you qualify the sitaution but that's about it.

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07-08-2008, 02:35 PM
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What's wrong with what he said? We all know what I think about Carbonneau. Ryder took a shot at the organization, Carbonneau retaliated when the oppurtunity presented itself and merely pointed the finger that it was Ryder's play and attitude that indicated how he was treated in Montreal.
Woah, I didn't know this...lol

Can someone post a link of this, I gotta read it?

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He should know by now that people are gonna scrutinise every comment he makes. My guess is he doesn't care either way.
Again, I agree. Carbo says what he thinks and jokes around a bit. If people want to raise eye brows a bit, he'll be laughing at the dinner table. I picture him as thinking life's too short to worry about this stuff.

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Woah, I didn't know this...lol

Can someone post a link of this, I gotta read it?
Couple pages back about him being treated unfairly, never having the coaches backing etc. etc.?

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Couple pages back about him being treated unfairly, never having the coaches backing etc. etc.?
Thanks WTK, I'll go check it out.

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What's wrong with what he said? We all know what I think about Carbonneau. Ryder took a shot at the organization, Carbonneau retaliated when the oppurtunity presented itself and merely pointed the finger that it was Ryder's play and attitude that indicated how he was treated in Montreal.
There should be no retaliation, but whatever.

A little off topic, but what "shot" did Ryder take at the organization?

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There should be no retaliation, but whatever.

A little off topic, but what "shot" did Ryder take at the organization?
Read up.

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Read up.
I read it, but who wrote it? No link, and google results show nothing.


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I read it, but who wrote it?


I did.

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It was made up by Stewart Jemal Harris.

We should take shots at Stewart Jemal Harris.

Stewart Jemal Harris

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It was made up by Stewart Jemal Harris.

We should take shots at Stewart Jemal Harris.

Stewart Jemal Harris
Well, color me wrong.

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Can't wait for the season to start so that posters here will finally get off the Ryder bashing. But, oh, that's right, Ryder has signed with the Bruins. Well, the bashing will start again then if he scores a few goals, and wins some games for the Bruins against the Habs. And believe me, it is going to happen. Michael Ryder has not been as this motivated for the season to begin, since his junior days!!! Going to be very interesting series with the Briuns this year!!!

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It was made up by Stewart Jemal Harris.

We should take shots at Stewart Jemal Harris.

Stewart Jemal Harris
No, it's Gainey's fault.

Gainey

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I dont know Ryder was a pretty awesome goalscorer. And he did improve his game all around somewhat. He is physical sometimes as well, and really had to do that last year as he couldnt score. The biggest surprise about Ryder was that he lost his quick release. The league figured him out somehow. Most everytime he went to shoot the opposition seemed to know and he couldnt get his shot off. Now his accuracy could improve next year but his inability to get his shot off how will he improve that, that part really boggled my mind. Obviously a goalscorer needs a quick release so will he get that back?

The big problem in Montreal is the lack of centemen depth compared to the Bruins:
Savard-Bergeron-Krejci beats anything the Habs have(Koivu-Plekanek-noname) and I did not even mention Kessel who also plays center and wing at times.

There are enough excellent setup centermen for Ryder to score anywhere from 30 to 40 goals next season.
Savard is top-15 in the NHL on that regard and Bergeron is just as good.

There is nobody that good in Montreal.


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The big problem in Montreal is the lack of centemen depth compared to the Bruins:
Savard-Bergeron-Krejci beats anything the Habs have(Koivu-Plekanek-noname) and I did not even mention Kessel who also plays center and wing at times.

There are enough excellent setup centermen for Ryder to score anywhere from 30 to goals next season.
Savard is top-15 in the NHL on that regard and Bergeron is just as good.

There is nobody that good in Montreal.
If he plays with Savard, for sure he will score... if he regain his only weapon, his shot.

BUT, Boston sure need these goals, and I hope for Chiarelli that Ryder remember how he was doing before, cause his contract right now is absolutely ridiculous... especially when you consider last year's performance !

We finished with 262 goals last year, good for 1st in the NHL while Boston finished 25th with 212, 50 goals more, our centers probably don't have anything to say in that feat I suppose ?

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The big problem in Montreal is the lack of centemen depth compared to the Bruins:
Savard-Bergeron-Krejci beats anything the Habs have(Koivu-Plekanek-noname) and I did not even mention Kessel who also plays center and wing at times.

There are enough excellent setup centermen for Ryder to score anywhere from 30 to goals next season.
Savard is top-15 in the NHL on that regard and Bergeron is just as good.

There is nobody that good in Montreal.
Bruins centres are so great, I don't know how we'll compete with them next year.

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Bruins centres are so great, I don't know how we'll compete with them next year.
If Thomas plays as well as he did last year, they will be a lot more of a handful than most people around here think. You can count on that.

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