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07-09-2008, 02:38 AM
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This Kalinin dude........

This Kalinin dude is already starting to make me nervous.

http://forums.sabres.com/index.php?showtopic=36352&st=0

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07-09-2008, 03:16 AM
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Yeah, those posts don't give you that warm fuzzy feeling. Although, I got a huge kick out of the one person there who posted this:

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He's kind of an inside joke around here --->

I have to give a little love to the Sabres' fans for stuff like that.

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07-09-2008, 03:27 AM
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He was solid for most of his time here, but for some reason his mistakes were over analyzed. I guess you could say he was the scapegoat for all of our losses.
Why does this sound so familiar???

It would only be justice that Buffalo signs Malik now.

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07-09-2008, 03:39 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong...but wasn't it kalinin that smashed Mara's face in last season?

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Correct me if I'm wrong...but wasn't it kalinin that smashed Mara's face in last season?
That was Patrick Kaleta.

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Wow blaze....you hit every ranger blog/board with this same post...



Everyone's informed to say the least

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Why does this sound so familiar???

It would only be justice that Buffalo signs Malik now.
He's the new Poti/Malik/Backman

There must always be a scapegoat on the Rangers blueline

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07-09-2008, 05:47 AM
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He's the new Poti/Malik/Backman

There must always be a scapegoat on the Rangers blueline
I have a big feeling it will be Rozsival this year, more-so than Kalinin.

That being said, I have a big feeling he will be like Malik was for us, only a little more offensive, and while I say that.. torture me as you will, I doubt to HELL he can get a clean breakout pass as well as Malik does.

If he is like Malik, I'm fine with that. He can put the puck in more, costs $400,000 less, and it's not like Malik was bad. It's these forum people who aren't realists and think the Stanley Cup is this year and that year that make people like Malik and Kalinin look bad.

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He's quicker on his feet and better one-on-one than Malik, not only that, but he'll give you a little more offense as well.

I don't know why he was made out to be a scapegoat there, it's not like their blueline was filled with all-stars or even quality defenders.

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He's quicker on his feet and better one-on-one than Malik, not only that, but he'll give you a little more offense as well.

I don't know why he was made out to be a scapegoat there, it's not like their blueline was filled with all-stars or even quality defenders.
Pure hatred from being a putrid defensive team, IMO.

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He's quicker on his feet and better one-on-one than Malik, not only that, but he'll give you a little more offense as well.

I don't know why he was made out to be a scapegoat there, it's not like their blueline was filled with all-stars or even quality defenders.
Key phrase right there, and should provide some insight into why he (and Malik for that matter) is so hated. When team's lack true top-pairing, shut down type guys, like Buffalo and the last few incarnations of the Rangers, players like Malik and Kalinin are thrust into bigger roles than they are suited to play. Malik is a more than serviceable NHL defenseman, he just wasn't suited for first pairing duty like he was forced into here, so he was given more opportunity to make mistakes and unfortunately was glaringly exposed.

The same will not be true with Kalinin who is at best #5 on the depth chart. Who knows, maybe he is like Zherdev and was simply not motivated to play in a town like Buffalo and the move to the bright(on) lights of NYC will help him breakout.

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Kalinin started out in his NHL career fairly decent--maybe being in Buffalo got boring. Maybe not being paired with someone who could cover his mistakes better hurts as well. Looks definitely to slot in the 5-6 slot. Can be any worse than Backman? He made me cringe every time he was out there. If nothing else he's $200 K less than Backman which should make him at least $200 K better.

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I have high hopes for him but it seems he may be the favor for the new whipping boy.

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Hey guys here is a Sabres fans perspective on Kalinin.

Tri has a lot of upside and potential talent, but the problem is he has never lived up to any of the potential the Sabres thought he had. Many Sabres fans were confused as to why the Sabres kept him around for as long as they did. For some reason Lindy and Darcy saw something in him that they thought would develope but he never did.

Tri will have games where you will think he finally got he. He will look like a top 2 d-man, but as quickly has he got there he will regress. He makes his partner look bad quite often. Tri tend to get beat a lot and seems to alway be out of position. Positioning is his biggest problem he seems like he get lost on the ice and losees track of his player. I don't know how many time I saw a 2 on 2 break, that didn't look like a problem turn in to a nail bitter because tri over played his side. He can be extremely lazy and will often seem disinterested especially if he make a mistake early in the game.

Lundy better get used to having other teams forward on top of him. Tri is famous for "clearing the crease" right on top of his goaltender.

Maybe the change of scenery is what he need.

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The one difference between kalinen and Malik though is malik was on our top pairing playing 20mins per game. Kalinen will be on our 3rd pairing. The way our D has been since the lockout, i can't see him being a bad 3rd paring Dman

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Yeah, those posts don't give you that warm fuzzy feeling. Although, I got a huge kick out of the one person there who posted this:



I have to give a little love to the Sabres' fans for stuff like that.
not another Malik!!! NO!!!!

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Or maybe a coach with a better overall team defense scheme? Kalinin will not be seeing anyone's top line this season.

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Or maybe a coach with a better overall team defense scheme? Kalinin will not be seeing anyone's top line this season.
Holy Crap!......let the guy play......he has talent and can prove himself

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Or maybe a coach with a better overall team defense scheme? Kalinin will not be seeing anyone's top line this season.
Do you seriously think Kalinin was seeing any top line with the Sabres??

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Anyone who watched him play in 2005-06 playoffs knows better. He can be a very solid defenseman.

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Holy Crap!......let the guy play......he has talent and can prove himself
What the hell are you talking about? Forechecker was defending Kalinin, and simply stating that a change of scenery might help him into becoming a solid defender. Just because he won't be playing against top lines often or at all doesn't mean we're not letting him play.

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Supposedly he's a little bit fragile mentally. Ruff does a lot of screaming and yelling at his players, I think Renney is the right coach for Kalinin. I don't think we'll have any complaints about him as a 5/6 guy. He's known to be pretty physical and I think if Renney can give the guy some confidence we'll see a lot of good things from him. However, unless Mara has a god awful season or Kalinin REALLY out plays him, I think Kalinin is a stop-gap until Sanguinetti is ready.

We have 6 top-4 defensemen on our blue line this year; 3 of whom are #1-2 guys (Staal, Redden and Rozy) and none of them are under 6'2 or 200lbs. That's a pretty imposing group of defenders.

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Wow blaze....you hit every ranger blog/board with this same post...



Everyone's informed to say the least
Felt like I needed to instigate some chatter about this guy. Once again... I have a feeling I'll be needing an increase of hits off my inhaler during games. Just when we got rid of Backman Turn - Overdrive!

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Vitto,

Not sure what about my statement is negative. Renney's 5 in a box system will minimize his mistakes, and I meant he'll be on the third pairing, and not responsible for other team's top lines.

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On the bright side, nobody's expectations are going to be very high for Kalinin.

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