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07-10-2008, 09:33 PM
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I think he's a left shooter. From the pick you post, atleast. I don't think we gonna see him anytime soon in MTL. Probably can make the NHL, but need to learn language and NA hockey.

I could be wrong on my evaluation, but Streit look better than Korneev on International games, and only become a 60 points player(), but a LW and PP specialist more than a regular on defense. Can't play against bigger forward. How can Korneev, who's smaller than Streit, can make better on the defensive part of the game?

Don't get me wrong, I hope he comes to NA and I think he have a chance to make it, but I don't think he can make it without time and he will have hard time to beat guys like McDo, Gorges, etc on MTL D. I see him a little bit like Grabovski. Can make it, but maybe too much competition in MTL for him.

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What is his NHL potential?

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07-11-2008, 12:56 AM
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I think he's a left shooter. From the pick you post, atleast. I don't think we gonna see him anytime soon in MTL. Probably can make the NHL, but need to learn language and NA hockey.

I could be wrong on my evaluation, but Streit look better than Korneev on International games, and only become a 60 points player(), but a LW and PP specialist more than a regular on defense. Can't play against bigger forward. How can Korneev, who's smaller than Streit, can make better on the defensive part of the game?

Don't get me wrong, I hope he comes to NA and I think he have a chance to make it, but I don't think he can make it without time and he will have hard time to beat guys like McDo, Gorges, etc on MTL D. I see him a little bit like Grabovski. Can make it, but maybe too much competition in MTL for him.
Yeah he is a left-handed shooter. I never even paid attention to the profile, I just copied and pasted.

Thanks for that though.

As for you're second paragraph, as far as I know, Korneev was one of the leading scorers for ALL defenseman this year. Last year, Streit did look better because Korneev only suited up for one game. But this year, Korneev scored 6 PTS in 9 GP while registering a +11.. he was a huge reason Russia won.

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What is his NHL potential?
I'd say a very good 2nd pairing guy. He could be a 1st pairing guy if his physical game continues to evolve. However, this year his physical game really took off and he's now able to take a hit and still make an effective play.

I would say a good comparison, at this point, may be Dennis Wideman of the Bruins.

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I did some digging on the internet but it seems it was on television.

So no source for now.

Someone heard McGuire say that?
Yeah, I heard it. And a few others heard it..

It was discussed in one of the WC threads.. not sure if it was a GDT or just a WC thread.. or if it was on this site or the Official Canadiens Forum.. or out in the general forums of this section.

I really wish I knew, but it'd be impossible to find.


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so is he a 2 way defender? DFD? OFD? Just a bruiser?

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07-11-2008, 01:19 AM
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so is he a 2 way defender? DFD? OFD? Just a bruiser?
He's got a great first pass and he's very offensive minded. But his defensive game is just fine and his physical game is coming along slowly but surely.

If you wanted a comparison, as to the kind of game he plays, on our team.. Think Josh Gorges with Roman Hamrlik's offensive game.

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As long as there's no talk of him crossing the ocean, I really don't see why I should buy in the hype. I'll wet my panties for our other great prospects on the d thank you very much.

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07-11-2008, 02:09 AM
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And what about Emlin? Yemlin how ever u spell it. Whats his potential at? Comparison? Type of player? Ever coming to Habs?

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Was he on the World Championship team this past tournament? Unfortunately, I missed the whole tournament.

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Was he on the World Championship team this past tournament? Unfortunately, I missed the whole tournament.
Yes he was and he played decent. You can see that he's got offensive flair and all but he made a few blatant mistakes in his own zone and that's the part of his game that he would have to improve a heck of a lot in order to be a regular with the Habs.

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07-11-2008, 08:21 AM
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And what about Emlin? Yemlin how ever u spell it. Whats his potential at? Comparison? Type of player? Ever coming to Habs?
Emelin is a bottom four defencemen, similar to Dariusz Kasparaitis. He has offensive potential, a big shot. He's as mean and nasty as you're gonna get. He has one more year on his russian contract (depending if the KHL voided all RSL contracts or not, if they did, then he's available to be signed now) and then I guess we'll see. I'm praying he comes over, if he doesn't, I'll be upset.

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Emelin is a bottom four defencemen, similar to Dariusz Kasparaitis. He has offensive potential, a big shot. He's as mean and nasty as you're gonna get. He has one more year on his russian contract (depending if the KHL voided all RSL contracts or not, if they did, then he's available to be signed now) and then I guess we'll see. I'm praying he comes over, if he doesn't, I'll be upset.
I'm just wondering that with the recent poaching of Radulov while under contract if the Habs should try and get Korneev and or Emelin before the agreement between the IIHF and NHL kicks in in September. It could be a plus to get one or both of these guys over here but then it could upset a lot of teams over there and they could target guys like the Kostitsyns, Kovalev or even Markov.

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I think Korneev is a pretty good prospect, I just don't think he will end up coming over to NA. But if we did manage to get those two over here a year from now, it would be a great boost to our prospect depth....

Imagine in 2 years...

We will have all these d-men either in Hamilton, or playing for the Habs....

Pavel Valentenko
Mathieu Carle
Yannick Webber
Konstantin Korneev
Alexei Emelin
PK Subban
Ryan McDonagh (I think he will sign after next year)
David Fischer

Thats a nice list of prospects to be fighting for a spot on the NHL roster or playing in Hamilton

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07-11-2008, 11:18 AM
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I think Korneev is a pretty good prospect, I just don't think he will end up coming over to NA. But if we did manage to get those two over here a year from now, it would be a great boost to our prospect depth....

Imagine in 2 years...

We will have all these d-men either in Hamilton, or playing for the Habs....

Pavel Valentenko
Mathieu Carle
Yannick Webber
Konstantin Korneev
Alexei Emelin
PK Subban
Ryan McDonagh (I think he will sign after next year)
David Fischer

Thats a nice list of prospects to be fighting for a spot on the NHL roster or playing in Hamilton
That also isn't just good for depth reasons, but its good to acquire players at other positions. We could combine a couple of d-man prospects (who are NHL) ready and hopefully get something of use back.. maybe something for a SC run.

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Was he on the World Championship team this past tournament? Unfortunately, I missed the whole tournament.
Yeah he was.

He played in all 9 Russian games scoring 6 PTS and registering a +11. He does make a few defensive mistakes though.

But, I am sticking by my comparison of Dennis Wideman.

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And what about Emlin? Yemlin how ever u spell it. Whats his potential at? Comparison? Type of player? Ever coming to Habs?
Probably Darius Kasparititis .. I think, from what I've seen, that Emelin has more offensive upside and is a better skater, which will help keep him in the NHL long term.

Emelin would be a very good bottom pairing guy, with the potential to be a solid 2nd pairing guy. I don't think he has as much upside as Korneev.. but his size will make him more of a 'lock' for a position long-term.

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That also isn't just good for depth reasons, but its good to acquire players at other positions. We could combine a couple of d-man prospects (who are NHL) ready and hopefully get something of use back.. maybe something for a SC run.
You're never going to get full value back. The problem is that they aren't here right now, so using them as trading chips isn't very useful. Not many GMs are going to pay anything for the rights to a player that might come over.

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You're never going to get full value back. The problem is that they aren't here right now, so using them as trading chips isn't very useful. Not many GMs are going to pay anything for the rights to a player that might come over.
I think he meant if they came over, which is why I was saying its good trading depth. He said they'd be fighting for a spot in Montreal.

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I think he was removed from Hockeysfuture page cause he is too old to be a prospect....

He's turned 24..

Oh well I guess we can pull him from the voting and vote for someone else in the pools since he's not an official prospect by HF rules.

but he's still habs property by NHL rules.

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