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07-13-2008, 01:16 PM
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What is left to prove in the OHL? Going to Russia would be a challenge. It would show a lot about his character that he'd be willing to challenge himself to improve his game in such a way. Also, he'd be getting money in his pocket that nobody can take away. Millions, most likely. It's one season, and he'll still be on the main stage at the international tournements, skating for Canada. He's got North American experience, if he goes to Russia, he'd be getting pro experience, too. Teams would like that, I'm sure.
Nothing. He just has to show he can continue to put up numbers. It wouldn't show a lot about character especially if (That's a big if) millions of dollars are being thrown at him to get him over.

The only way going over to the KHL will benefit him is monetarily.

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Gretzky had a lot of hype to him. There was hype surrounding him since he was a young teenager (13 or 14).
Not the kind of hype Tavares and Crosby get/got.

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Not the kind of hype Tavares and Crosby get/got.
If he were in today's media world he would have. The world has changed. Gretz was hyped huge for the time. Apples and oranges comparison.

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The only way going over to the KHL will benefit him is monetarily.
You talk about money like it's not all that important. Not only that, but I really don't think that's all there is to gain by such a unique and extreme experience. I'm sure there is more to gain than you or I would ever have the opportunity to know.

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Not the kind of hype Tavares and Crosby get/got.
There weren't internet message boards back then, no.

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You talk about money like it's not all that important. Not only that, but I really don't think that's all there is to gain by such a unique and extreme experience. I'm sure there is more to gain than you or I would ever have the opportunity to know.
Unless the KHL is actually offering him a multi-million 1 year deal (which is extremely doubtful) it's not going to happen.

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Unless the KHL is actually offering him a multi-million 1 year deal (which is extremely doubtful) it's not going to happen.
Aside from the bit in parenthesis, I agree.

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You talk about money like it's not all that important. Not only that, but I really don't think that's all there is to gain by such a unique and extreme experience. I'm sure there is more to gain than you or I would ever have the opportunity to know.
You do know russia is not the best place to live.

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The KHL is and will always be crap. When you have to act desperate to get players, you know your league sucks. We have Lord Stanley, we have the history and a more high profile league and Hall of Fame.
You forgot to add that you have dumb hockey.

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I don't believe it. As a parent myself, I cannot imagine that his parents believe that it's a good idea to send their teenager over to Russia for a year, for God's sake, especially given the shadiness and corruption that are associated with hockey over there. I could see a 30yr old doing it, but there is no way on earth that I'd send an 18yr old over there to fend for himself. His parents can't be that insane.
Not to mention bears roaming the streets.

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We don't want him.
what makes you think we want him here ?

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If the rinks sizes were the same as the NHL rinks I might think there's a chance. Since they're bigger and Tavares' biggest issue is his skating I can't see it happening. He might not put as many points with all that extra room. A players like Tavares would get better the smaller the rink got. Then there would be the whole adjusting again to the NA rink sizes.

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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.

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The KHL is and will always be crap. When you have to act desperate to get players, you know your league sucks. We have Lord Stanley, we have the history and a more high profile league and Hall of Fame.
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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.
What gets me is some of the rinks have a cap of 5,000 or less.

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You do know russia is not the best place to live.
you will know better where is right place to live!

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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.
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Why not sign a 1 year contract in the SEL, with say Timrå or Djurgården, he would certainly become an overall better two way player in the long run.

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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.
They honestly believe they will be profitable at some point. And yes oil.

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Why not sign a 1 year contract in the SEL, with say Timrå or Djurgården, he would certainly become an overall better two way player in the long run.
This makes just as much to more sense especially considering who is suppose to be in the top bracket of the first round.

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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.
Aren't most of the NHL teams making zero profit at best?

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Goes over for one season and gets injured by some overzelous 4th liner looking to take out the star kid and suffers a career threatening injury. Stock drops dramatically and can't make the NHL at all.

Gets hepatitis in a dodgy Russian restaurant and takes 6 months to a year to recover. In the mean time, NHL clubs lose interest and he is "stuck" playing in Europe for a few year before realizing his NHL dream.
These scenarios could just as easily take place in Ontario. Russia isn't the only place that has sketchy restaurants and players looking to knock off star players.

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Yes but this is a russian league they don't alwas do as they should.
Seriously? This is the best argument you have?
This is bordering on xenophobia

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Aren't most of the NHL teams making zero profit at best?
A lot of them do, and they have profit sharing so teams losing money lose less or don't lose at all.

I can't tell you exactly how it works but it's profit sharing.

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You do know russia is not the best place to live.
I'm guessing it's a crappy place to live for a poor person, but a pretty bad-ass place to live for a guy with a couple million bucks.

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how the Hell does the KHL make this money to afford to sign someone at a competitive rate to the NHL. They were ready to sign Malkin at 11 MIllion alright, fair enough, its a business. But how? Do they have world class stadiums like the ones we have in North America, do they charge tickets like we do, at the average NHL price. (cheapests ticket for a Vancouver game is 70 bucks). LIke how do they do it. IN order to compete for NHL players you have to have fan like base like the NHL. As far as I know, no city outside of North America can really emulate a fan base like the NHL. You need at least 14000 strong, and KHL is not the best leauge in the world.
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