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Stephane Veilleux on waivers (Update 7/17: Cleared waivers)

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07-16-2008, 02:55 PM
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Stephane Veilleux on waivers (Update 7/17: Cleared waivers)

http://ww3.startribune.com/blogs/wil...vers/#more-643

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Veilleux is one year from unrestricted free agency. There is a major bridge between what the Wild feels he’s worth next year and beyond as an unrestricted free agent and what Veilleux thinks he’s worth.

So the Wild is trying to “solve the problem.”

If Veilleux is right, another team will claim him knowing, conceivably, it will need to pay Veilleux what he wants.

If the Wild is right, he’ll clear waivers and Veilleux will conceivably learn his value isn’t as high as he thinks it is.


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haha funny, I was reading 2 minutes ago somewhere that he fired his agent because he wanted to handle the negociations by himself with the Wild and that he was probably a few days away from signing with the Wild and now I read that he's on waivers... Things change fast I guess lol

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to vancouver?

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How much does he think he's worth with putting up 18pts in 77 games with a -13? He made close to 600k last season. I'm curious to know what the numbers are, that he thinks he's worth.

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to vancouver?
Yeah, Vancouver needs more bottom 6 players. Gillis, Nonis...who cares, same **** different pile with these two GM's.

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Yeah, Vancouver needs more bottom 6 players. Gillis, Nonis...who cares, same **** different pile with these two GM's.
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Doesn't Tampa need a couple of forwards?

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How much does he think he's worth with putting up 18pts in 77 games with a -13? He made close to 600k last season. I'm curious to know what the numbers are, that he thinks he's worth.
how the hell do you put up a -13 on the wild?

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how the hell do you put up a -13 on the wild?
By playing with Derek Boogaard?

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So then what? He probably won't get claimed and after that he's at odds (even more so) with the front office. I have a feeling Veilleux is in for a rocky few weeks.

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So Nigel Dawes just got $587,500 with the Rangers, does he think he is worth more than that?

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So Nigel Dawes just got $587,500 with the Rangers, does he think he is worth more than that?
Seems to be more about the compensation for his upcoming UFA years, meaning he and the Wild were talking about a 2+ year contract.

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Wow, the Wild aren't only losing a good portion of their top 6, their bottom 6 is crumbling too: Radivojevic, Veilleux, Foy, Voros, Fedoruk and Simon, all gone.

Granted, Risebrough has guys to fill in some of the gaps, but with Demitra and Rolston leaving, that a significant loss to the Wild.

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Wow, the Wild aren't only losing a good portion of their top 6, their bottom 6 is crumbling too: Radivojevic, Veilleux, Foy, Voros, Fedoruk and Simon, all gone.

Granted, Risebrough has guys to fill in some of the gaps, but with Demitra and Rolston leaving, that a significant loss to the Wild.
I can understand the concern of losing 2 top scorers in Demo and
Rolston, but in no way is losing Veilleux a signficant loss. He's an energy checking line guy.

I'm hoping someone claims him to make room for one of the kids.

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Not that I really think there is a lot to be answered....

But Veilleux has filled for Arbitration, what happens if another team (any other team) grabs him? Obviously he's still going to go to Arbitration unless he gets a deal he likes prior to to hearing, but does it change the way the hearing goes? What if he clears, then he's worth nothing and the Wild can totally low ball him.

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I can understand the concern of losing 2 top scorers in Demo and
Rolston, but in no way is losing Veilleux a signficant loss. He's an energy checking line guy.

I'm hoping someone claims him to make room for one of the kids.
He wasn't calling Veilleux a significan loss. Pretty sure his point was that losing Veilleux on his own wouldn't be much but in addition to losing other, more important, roster players the team has been crippled somewhat.

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So Nigel Dawes just got $587,500 with the Rangers, does he think he is worth more than that?
if Veilleux thinks he worth more than black magic he is nuts.

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I sure hope he gets picked up. One more player out of Cal Clutterbuck's way.

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if Veilleux thinks he worth more than black magic he is nuts.
by that logic I cant see why anyone makes more than the Conn Smythe winners 2.65M...

At any rate, this cracks me up. Im guessing Veilleux thought he could squeeze more money out of the Wild and the fact that he was getting lowballed had everything to do with his agents incompetence. I suppose it had nothing to do with the fact that guys like Veilleux are a dime a dozen..

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I can understand the concern of losing 2 top scorers in Demo and
Rolston, but in no way is losing Veilleux a signficant loss. He's an energy checking line guy.

I'm hoping someone claims him to make room for one of the kids.
personally i think he would be a signficant loss. my reasoning is, he along with Max Talbot, are amoung the best energy checking guys out there at their value(there are better guys out there but not at the same value). Not everyone fits into minnesota's system, but Veilleux does. that alone should add to his value to the wild. But do i think he is not replaceible? no, he is. But to say he wouldnt be a signficant loss after lossing as much as we have already. would be be a dumb statement.

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by that logic I cant see why anyone makes more than the Conn Smythe winners 2.65M...

At any rate, this cracks me up. Im guessing Veilleux thought he could squeeze more money out of the Wild and the fact that he was getting lowballed had everything to do with his agents incompetence. I suppose it had nothing to do with the fact that guys like Veilleux are a dime a dozen..
Thats because Zetterberg didnt win the Conn Smythe in the same season as he got 2.65 per season. you cant really compare players from different UFA/RFA seasons. the market goes up.

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by that logic I cant see why anyone makes more than the Conn Smythe winners 2.65M...

At any rate, this cracks me up. Im guessing Veilleux thought he could squeeze more money out of the Wild and the fact that he was getting lowballed had everything to do with his agents incompetence. I suppose it had nothing to do with the fact that guys like Veilleux are a dime a dozen..
What agent?

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► Is Minny's new ownership a tightwad? This move (althought relatively insignificant) just adds to the mass exodus of players from Minny. And they aren't exactly bucking up to replace them.

► Or is DR a cap-genius? The Nolan, Miettinen and Schultz contracts show otherwise.

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how the hell do you put up a -13 on the wild?
By playing on a checking line going against other team's top lines.

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Wow, the Wild aren't only losing a good portion of their top 6, their bottom 6 is crumbling too: Radivojevic, Veilleux, Foy, Voros, Fedoruk and Simon, all gone.

Granted, Risebrough has guys to fill in some of the gaps, but with Demitra and Rolston leaving, that a significant loss to the Wild.
And good riddance to everyone but Fedoruk and Veilleux, if he's claimed. Radfio, Foy, Voros, and Simon are garbage players. Only Radio had some value.

Veilleux wouldn't be a significant loss if he's asking for to much money. We have guys like Clutterbuck that are waiting for an open roster spot.

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► Is Minny's new ownership a tightwad? This move (althought relatively insignificant) just adds to the mass exodus of players from Minny. And they aren't exactly bucking up to replace them.

► Or is DR a cap-genius? The Nolan, Miettinen and Schultz contracts show otherwise.
Not many direct replacements have been made, but Minnesota has been one of the most active teams in bringing in new players. Nolan - too much money. Miettienen - right amount of money. Schultz - awesome contract. Minnesota has always been very frugal.

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