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07-16-2008, 02:34 PM
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I believe if he's signed a one year deal, he'd be a UFA next season, like Lundqvist was last year. Unless that was because of the club taking him to arbitration.
There is no way he would be a UFA. He is too young. He'd still be a RFA.

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Well, speaking as one who predicted a salary in that range, the answer is simple - to lock him up for two years. On a one year deal, I absolutley agree that $1MM+ would be silly, but if you get him to give up one or more years of UFA status, that's gonna cost you. If you do believe he's capable of scoring 30, it makes a lot of fiscal sense to lock him up at a lower price if you can. 'Cause if he signs for one year at $625K (or whatever it turns out to be) and then goes 30-30-60, you ain't getting him back for less than $4MM as an UFA next year.
Prucha got $1.6 for having 30 goal and 22 goal back-to-back seasons. Even if by some miracle Dawes turns into a 30 goal scorer next season, he's got 1 year @ 30 goals under his belt. No way that makes him a $4M player.

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There is no way he would be a UFA. He is too young. He'd still be a RFA.
So, how was Lundy a UFA after his one year deal? He wasn't 28 last season.

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I believe if he's signed a one year deal, he'd be a UFA next season, like Lundqvist was last year. Unless that was because of the club taking him to arbitration.
Lundy was still going to be an RFA if he didn't sign the extension, but we couldn't use arbitration on him again to block offer sheets.

if it is a one year deal Dawes will still be an RFA after next season.

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one year deal worth $587,500.
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So, how was Lundy a UFA after his one year deal? He wasn't 28 last season.
Lundqvist was not an ufa, if someone through an offersheet that rangers cant match then it would be a problem. lundqvist is too young to be an ufa.

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You guys all need to work on your reading comprehension.

Dellapina said "The club will announce sometime today that it has re-signed Nigel Dawes to a one-year contract in the $600,000 range."

That could be anything from $600,000 to $699,999. Which, given the comparables and what Dawes has actually accomplished (not what most of you think he's capable of... I've seen people here giving him $1.2m and over... for what I ask?!) is right about in line.
Range of 600K means 550-650K, 600K being somewhere in the middle.

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Prucha got $1.6 for having 30 goal and 22 goal back-to-back seasons. Even if by some miracle Dawes turns into a 30 goal scorer next season, he's got 1 year @ 30 goals under his belt. No way that makes him a $4M player.
In the current market? I think $3MM is the floor if he hits UFA.

However, if they've got him at 1 year for $587K and then he's still an RFA next year, it's all moot - and a great deal!

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So, how was Lundy a UFA after his one year deal? He wasn't 28 last season.
Yea like Jorts said, Lundy wasnt going to be a UFA. He was going to be a RFA but someone most likely would have threw an offer sheet at him.

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I think the choice for Dawes came down to asking for more (just under a mil) and having to face the possibility of getting sent down due to cap constraints, or doing this deal. Now he is a bargain with enough potential to probably stick around all season. More money or guarentee yourself an NHL spot. Let's not underestimate what kind of a statement he is making.
Good point. It's obvious that this year the kids are going to need to step up and it seems like slats is motivating that with contracts that expire at years end. Zherdev, Dubinsky, Dawes, Fristche, and Prucha are all RFAs next year and will all be playing for new contracts. Only problem will be is if they all play great, there's no way we'll have the cap space to sign em all.

Heck even Kalinin and Mara will have something to show because they'll be playing for contracts too.

All this while there might be other youngsters in Hartford stating their case for a roster spot, i.e. Korpeedo, Sauer, maybe even Pock or Hutch though I think the chances for the latter two may be over, I guess camp will decide that.

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Sheesh. Can't do much better than that.

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Good point. It's obvious that this year the kids are going to need to step up and it seems like slats is motivating that with contracts that expire at years end. Zherdev, Dubinsky, Dawes, Fristche, and Prucha are all RFAs next year and will all be playing for new contracts. Only problem will be is if they all play great, there's no way we'll have the cap space to sign em all.

Heck even Kalinin and Mara will have something to show because they'll be playing for contracts too.

All this while there might be other youngsters in Hartford stating their case for a roster spot, i.e. Korpeedo, Sauer, maybe even Pock or Hutch though I think the chances for the latter two may be over, I guess camp will decide that.
Hutchinson signed with TB........I think Pock actually will get the 7th spot and if not it's Potter

Sauer and Sanguinetti need time to develop

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****ing awesome. Very good deal for us. Hopefully Nigel excels this season and we lock him up long term.

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I lied, the QO was for 522K. A good deal nonetheless.
Makes more sense now... and I agree, very, very good deal. Bargain.

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Yea like Jorts said, Lundy wasnt going to be a UFA. He was going to be a RFA but someone most likely would have threw an offer sheet at him.
Maybe we wait until January 1st and then sign him long term, like we did with Lundy.

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I think the choice for Dawes came down to asking for more (just under a mil) and having to face the possibility of getting sent down due to cap constraints, or doing this deal. Now he is a bargain with enough potential to probably stick around all season. More money or guarentee yourself an NHL spot. Let's not underestimate what kind of a statement he is making.
I agree that this is a good call by Dawes to cement his spot on the big club and it reminds me of following Hank's lead from last year of taking less in the summer to help the team fit under the cap. Nice move by Dawes, and good job by Sather once again.

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In the current market? I think $3MM is the floor if he hits UFA.

However, if they've got him at 1 year for $587K and then he's still an RFA next year, it's all moot - and a great deal!
Don't be ridiculous, just because some stars get crazy contracts doesn't mean everyone gets overpaid. Just look at this year's UFA crop and the number of non-star players that had to take pay cuts just to get a new contract.

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Don't be ridiculous, just because some stars get crazy contracts doesn't mean everyone gets overpaid. Just look at this year's UFA crop and the number of non-star players that had to take pay cuts just to get a new contract.
Uh yeah, based on those examples, I maintain that if he goes 30-30-60, the floor for his services would begin at $3MM per year. Heck, the fact that he's so young would actually increase his value.

However, as I realized in another post, it's moot, because he'll be an arbitration eligible RFA next year, not a UFA.

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Finally.

Wow.

Talk about a great deal for us.

A 23 year old that scored 14 in his rookie season, in only 61 games, getting 3rd line minutes.


He is going to put up good numbers as a top 6 forward this year.

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This is exciting, plus it sounds like we may have a little room under the cap afterall, granted I do not think we should immediately go out and spend it [Shanny].

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Incredible deal.

This kid is worth around 7 figures in my mind.

He must have taken the deal to stay on the roster, see Korpokoski.

kinda hoping this doesnt leave the door open for Shanny, but with that salary hes also HUGE trade bait.

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Excellent deal.

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Great deal.

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For value for the current year, I think this is the best deal we could have possibly made, but personally I would rather see us give the kid $1.5 for a 4 or 5 year deal. I would rather see us overpay a little bit right now to hopefully get great value later in the deal, I see Dawes being a major player i nthe Rangers system for years to come if we hold onto him.

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I believe if he's signed a one year deal, he'd be a UFA next season, like Lundqvist was last year. Unless that was because of the club taking him to arbitration.
I believe he is too young. Lundqvist would've only because of arbitration.

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