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07-18-2008, 11:01 PM
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After 2010 Olympics

Not sure if this is the right place for this but anyways, assuming 2010 is the last time NHL'ers participate in the Olympics who would be sent to represent Canada? The same team that's sent to the Spengler Cup? or would they gamble and send the junior team?

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07-19-2008, 12:02 AM
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They wouldn't send the junior team.....they'd get destroyed.

My guess is that they'd send a combination of Spengler Cup team, some top AHLers and, perhaps, as junior or two.

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Did I miss something? Why would 2010 be the last time NHLers participate in the Olympics?

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07-19-2008, 03:12 PM
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Did I miss something? Why would 2010 be the last time NHLers participate in the Olympics?
The current agreement between the NHL/IIHF to send NHL players to the Olympics ends in 2010. Given that the NHL views Olympic experiences outside of North America as a failure, some question whether they will not want to go back to 2014.

Personally, I think they should continue to go. If they don't, I hope they don't pick and choose which Olympics they want to participate in, because that would be an utter joke and would de-legitimize any future Olympic hockey tournaments.

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I think it will revert back to what it was before NHLers played. (Amateurs, AHL players and unsigned NHLers)

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The current agreement between the NHL/IIHF to send NHL players to the Olympics ends in 2010. Given that the NHL views Olympic experiences outside of North America as a failure, some question whether they will not want to go back to 2014.

Personally, I think they should continue to go. If they don't, I hope they don't pick and choose which Olympics they want to participate in, because that would be an utter joke and would de-legitimize any future Olympic hockey tournaments.
I'd still be shocked to see it happen. I would expect the NHLPA to really want to let the players play in the Olympics.

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That would suck so much. I mean the quality of players would be so bad and I think it would affect Canada and USA the most.

I think Russia might have a huge advantage over anyone in 2014 if NHL Players aren't allowed to participate.

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07-19-2008, 04:06 PM
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I think if the NHL pulled out, the Olympics would seriously have to look at banning all professional Hockey players NHL/KHL etc. from playing, otherwise it would become a joke just like 20 years ago.

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This answer has already been answered by Hockey Canada. They will re-instate the Olympic Team program. You may remember such names as Eric Lindros or Paul Kariya playing for that program instead of playing in the AHL. This team would represent Canada at most international tournaments and playing regular exhibition games across the globe.

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07-19-2008, 05:35 PM
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This answer has already been answered by Hockey Canada. They will re-instate the Olympic Team program. You may remember such names as Eric Lindros or Paul Kariya playing for that program instead of playing in the AHL. This team would represent Canada at most international tournaments and playing regular exhibition games across the globe.
That's exactly what I want. It should improve our chances in most tournaments because it gives the players more time to gel and grow chemistry.The question is though, what players join the team? Top junior prospects?

On a different note, will the World Cup continue for a tournament for to have the best players of each country?

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Why wouldn't athletes participate in the Olympics? Canada and the US do have a pretty rich history in the O.

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Why wouldn't athletes participate in the Olympics? Canada and the US do have a pretty rich history in the O.
Because NHL owners only care about their bottom line, and they have this belief that if they are off the television, and keep their fans away for two weeks during the regular season, that they will lose money. In particular, Olympics played in inconvenient time zones (Nagano, Turin and Sochi) mean that people in the USA won't be able to watch the players in prime time. It really makes no sense. There is much to be gained internationally by keeping the best players at the Olympics, and it's often a shame that NHL BOG is so short sighted

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07-19-2008, 09:16 PM
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I think if the NHL pulled out, the Olympics would seriously have to look at banning all professional Hockey players NHL/KHL etc. from playing, otherwise it would become a joke just like 20 years ago.
you do know before 1998 professionals were allowed to play but the nhl wouldn't release the players to do so right?

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you do know before 1998 professionals were allowed to play but the nhl wouldn't release the players to do so right?
Did the movie "Miracle" teach you nothing?

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07-19-2008, 11:13 PM
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NHLers in the Olympics is just a big mess.

Im hoping 2010 is their last time there. Then hopefully the NHL, KHL, IIHF and the rest of the leagues can organize a proper World Cup.

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07-19-2008, 11:20 PM
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There is a very simple answer. Just use the juniors for all countries. In the Olympic year, that tournament would count as both the World Championship and Olympic title.
No fuss, no muss.

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07-19-2008, 11:56 PM
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you do know before 1998 professionals were allowed to play but the nhl wouldn't release the players to do so right?
Yeah I know, and I also know no one in North America cared about the Hockey portion of the Olympics either because it was the best professional players from one country vs a bunch of junior players and ECHLers from North America. There were a couple of upsets but the Russians owned the tournament because they sent their best professional players when the Olympics is supposed to be amateur athletes.

If one of the two major leagues in the world pulls out, does it not make sense the Olympics would at least consider it, so it doesn't go back to being a joke competition. It isn't just North America either if the Swedes, Czechs etc.. lost all their NHL talent it would be like handing the gold medal to the Russians every year again.

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There is a very simple answer. Just use the juniors for all countries. In the Olympic year, that tournament would count as both the World Championship and Olympic title.
No fuss, no muss.
Yeah I wouldn't have a problem with that. I'd seriously hope that they take a look at ending all professional hockey competition. It just doesn't make sense just to lose the NHL'rs, it will be ridiculous and it doesn't do any good for anybody involved, including the gold medal winners.

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Its 9 years away. Additionally to what have been discussed I see another scenario: if the KHL does not go bust but keeps on attracting reasonable players, Euro teams composed of the KHL and other euro league players should be fun to watch and competative. Then we are back to pre 92 era when the OG was a Euro affair.

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07-20-2008, 11:07 AM
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I'd be just as happy if they started up the World Cup again.

As long as there's an opportunity to see best-on-best international competition, I don't see the problem. It's virtually the same thing, just a different name.

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