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07-21-2008, 07:19 PM
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Yvon is a good analyst of trades, rumours, management shuffling etc. Not a great hockey analyst.

Agree with the rest. Brunet was horrible in front of the camera 2 years ago. He was passable in 07. He was better late last year. I say by the ed of the year, we'll see how well he can be.
I don't understand that RDS didn't try to make a McKenzie out of him. They just simply didn't offer anything. And as much as he was far from being at his best, I don't think they should have handled that the way they did. RDS will celebrate their 20th anniversary, Habs their 100th, and you just throw in the garbage a guy like that?

Sure make a change if you want to, but keep him around....

I just see him being a regular at La Zone with the great Michel Villeneuve.

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Yvon Pednault signs a 5 year deal to coach the Ny Islanders
Yeah, or something like ''NewFlash: Gary Buttman has been demoted from his functions and has been replaced by Yvon Pedneault as commissioner of the National Hockey League.''

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Yeah, or something like ''NewFlash: Gary Buttman has been demoted from his functions and has been replaced by Yvon Pedneault as commissioner of the National Hockey League.''
And then it will be stated in the next CBA that Andrei Kostitsyn must be blamed for every failed breakout across the NHL.

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07-21-2008, 07:45 PM
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It's been pretty clear now why Brunet replaced Pedneault. When asked how he would be the analyst, Brunet said "I won't try to teach anything to the fans, I will just describe the action as I see them, bring my input as an ex-player and so on...." "Fans know their hockey enough as it is, no need to try to teach them".....

And people here want RDS to get Dubé....you can forget about that.....
Which was fallowed by "but I'll try to explain why a team use a certain type of PP, what are the benefits, etc"...

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Honestly, I hope Yvon lands on his feet and that this is a good thing for him.

On the other hand, it is sad that people will miss his work. His work was piss poor. Never insightful. Often plain wrong. The guy may be in the hall of fame (voted in by who exactly.... yeah, his buddies) but the guy could not explain a simple play. He never elevated the knowledge of his audience.

If you miss that, well... it is just sad.

Seriously.

Brunet will immediately be better. At least he understands the game at the ice level. If he continues to improve as a communicator, he will do a much more credible job.
Well said. And Brunet was doing a perfect job doing the intermissions. He still had problems while doing the play-by-play though.

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07-21-2008, 07:46 PM
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Yeah, or something like ''NewFlash: Gary Buttman has been demoted from his functions and has been replaced by Yvon Pedneault as commissioner of the National Hockey League.''
Because of his experience on Hockeybuzz.com

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07-22-2008, 06:08 AM
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chantal machabee ftw!

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07-22-2008, 09:26 AM
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I don't understand that RDS didn't try to make a McKenzie out of him. They just simply didn't offer anything. And as much as he was far from being at his best, I don't think they should have handled that the way they did. RDS will celebrate their 20th anniversary, Habs their 100th, and you just throw in the garbage a guy like that?

Sure make a change if you want to, but keep him around....

I just see him being a regular at La Zone with the great Michel Villeneuve.
There is always more than meets the eye. I cannot provide details but I can assure you that reasons that Pedneault was let go was not necessarily due to his work as a color analyst.

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07-22-2008, 09:30 AM
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There is always more than meets the eye. I cannot provide details but I can assure you that reasons that Pedneault was let go was not necessarily due to his work as a color analyst.
Come on, tell us what you know. I promise you it won't leave this internet.

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07-22-2008, 10:18 AM
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There is always more than meets the eye. I cannot provide details but I can assure you that reasons that Pedneault was let go was not necessarily due to his work as a color analyst.
If so, and I'm not saying I don't believe you, why would they tell him just now. Contract's been up for quite a while now.

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07-22-2008, 12:19 PM
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If so, and I'm not saying I don't believe you, why would they tell him just now. Contract's been up for quite a while now.
It's common knowledge that Houde, Crete, Demers and Brunet were also at the end of contract. Connect the dots.

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07-22-2008, 12:27 PM
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chantal machabee ftw!
Only if she's topless and there's a picture-in-picture of her for the whole game.

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It's common knowledge that Houde, Crete, Demers and Brunet were also at the end of contract. Connect the dots.
You know....I never was great at that game so I'll take 2 guesses, but you'll have to help me out...

1-They're all asking for substantial raises, making Pedneault the most expendable out of that list.

2- Some if not all have a condition to their contract renewal that Pedneault wouldn't be in 'cause they hate his guts....

Is there a 3? Am I close? What do I win?

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You know....I never was great at that game so I'll take 2 guesses, but you'll have to help me out...

1-They're all asking for substantial raises, making Pedneault the most expendable out of that list.

2- Some if not all have a condition to their contract renewal that Pedneault wouldn't be in 'cause they hate his guts....

Is there a 3? Am I close? What do I win?
3- Too many angry viewers compained about Pedneault, after so many years, the complaint list had become longer than Celine Dion's marriage agreement, so they just didn't renew his contract.

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07-22-2008, 12:38 PM
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3- Too many angry viewers compained about Pedneault, after so many years, the complaint list had become longer than Celine Dion's marriage agreement, so they just didn't renew his contract.
Habnot said that it wasn't related to his work as analyst...

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07-22-2008, 12:57 PM
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You know....I never was great at that game so I'll take 2 guesses, but you'll have to help me out...

1-They're all asking for substantial raises, making Pedneault the most expendable out of that list.

2- Some if not all have a condition to their contract renewal that Pedneault wouldn't be in 'cause they hate his guts....

Is there a 3? Am I close? What do I win?
Your on the right path with both.

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Only if she's topless and there's a picture-in-picture of her for the whole game.
Chantal has had her better days. She seems to have heard the proverbial wall.....literally


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Chantal has had her better days. She seems to have heard the proverbial wall.....literally
Yeah, but she's still stacked... still beats seeing Demers' double chin...

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[QUOTE=Whitesnake;14948268]I don't understand that RDS didn't try to make a McKenzie out of him. QUOTE]

Like I said in a previous post, I hope the guy lands on his feet, but.... Make a Bob McKenzie out of him....

To me, that is wrong on 2 levels.

First, to be a Bob McKenzie, you have to have a life invested in going to games at all levels of play, not only the Habs, not only the NHL. Then you need to spend years forging relationships with the all the real "players" of the management and coaching world, not just those that are from Quebec. Then you need to have a mind that can analyze situations and come to logical conclusions, and have your presumptions come to light numerous times, enough to create a reputation of being a hockey mind. Finally, you then need to communicate those ideas. I think Pedneault has that last part done pat, but would need a lifetime to gather the other elements.

Second, as much as I feel for anyone who loses a job (many of us have been there), he will be alright financially and professionally. On top of that, why does the world (or RDS) owe him a slo-ball pitch and give him a studio job analyzing what he sees on Sport 30?

That said.... I prefer him in that role over Alain Chantelois....


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07-22-2008, 03:33 PM
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Like I said in a previous post, I hope the guy lands on his feet, but.... Make a Bob McKenzie out of him....

To me, that is wrong on 2 levels.

First, to be a Bob McKenzie, you have to have a life invested in going to games at all levels of play, not only the Habs, not only the NHL. Then you need to spend years forging relationships with the all the real "players" of the management and coaching world, not just those that are from Quebec. Then you need to have a mind that can analyze situations and come to logical conclusions, and have your presumptions come to light numerous times, enough to create a reputation of being a hockey mind. Finally, you then need to communicate those ideas. I think Pedneault has that last part done pat, but would need a lifetime to gather the other elements.

Second, as much as I feel for anyone who loses a job (many of us have been there), he will be alright financially and professionally. On top of that, why does the world (or RDS) owe him a slo-ball pitch and give him a studio job analyzing what he sees on Sport 30?

That said.... I prefer him in that role over Alain Chantelois....
I think that out of everybody on RDS, I know it doesn't mean much, he still the guy that has the most inside information in the league. While some might sound not always credible, how many guys like that are on the english side? And how are on the french side? Still don't think it should not have been done that way, just before 2 important milestone in RDS and Habs life, still even if I didn't care about the guy, and honestly I don't really that much, I care about the importance and the relevance of the information that the french listeners can have access to. And as of now, it's far from behing great. We have all of those clowns and/or entertainers, but not a lot of knowledgeable minds and in a province, in a city where you talk hockey 12 months a year, it's purely pathetic.

I love all of you....or most of you..... but it's not normal that you can learn 1000 more things about our team in here than any french fans that can't properly read english can ever learn.....And then people wonder why we keep reading pathetic posts on the RDS and TQS talkbacks....well it's just a demonstration of what the fans hear and read.

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I love all of you....or most of you..... but it's not normal that you can learn 1000 more things about our team in here than any french fans that can't properly read english can ever learn.....And then people wonder why we keep reading pathetic posts on the RDS and TQS talkbacks....well it's just a demonstration of what the fans hear and read.
It freaking sucks that folks who are ONLY on the french side of the media (like all my in laws, all my nephews etc) are seriously information deprived because of the lack of depth. I agree with you.

You would think that in this province, where hockey is more important then anything else, credible, in depth knowledge should be the norm... not the exception. Besides Danny Dube, most of Francois Gagnon, and a story here and there from others... there is little reporting of fact and analysis-free of the "local guy" angle.

Hell, the English side is not filled with brainiacs either. We only have to look at the CBC and Sportsnet to prove that one too.

Sad.

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This news make my summer!!!

No more Pednault
This guy piss me off all the year with is montreal player bashing.

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The best thing about getting rid of Pednault is the negatism that came with his comment will be gone with him. It seems to me that he liked to point out mistakes way too much, while ignoring smart little plays. He was so pessimist, it pissed me off.

Outside of the overuse of "Chapeau!", Brunet should be able to replace him well. The Chapeau thing is funny since It was contagious with Demers including Chapeau in his comments. It can be a great drinking game listening to Brunet's Chapeau!
The thing is, Brunet may be as negative as Pednault but in a more monotone manner. At least Yvon would crap on someone in a enthousiastic manner "ooohhh Quelle erreur!"

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I would really like the guys from CKAC to do it on RDS to me they are the best french commentators.

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I would really like the guys from CKAC to do it on RDS to me they are the best french commentators.
Personaly the play-by-play guy Maguire bores me. Houde brings more enthousiasm to his commentary. But Dubé is gold, though.

In my opinion last year, they should have brought Danny as a third man on the commentating, giving us the proper insight on what's going on. You put him on the level of the ice like TSN's Pierre Maguire does when the Habs are at home and then maybe he would do the Kelly Hrudey type analysis of play when the Habs are travelling. You have him do that for two years until Yvon leaves and then Danny eventualy replaces him.

I think RDS needs more professionals, having guys that are more objective about stuff. But I will say I have this view for the magority of the Quebec Sport Press. Too many opinions, not enough specialists.

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I think that out of everybody on RDS, I know it doesn't mean much, he still the guy that has the most inside information in the league. While some might sound not always credible, how many guys like that are on the english side? And how are on the french side? Still don't think it should not have been done that way, just before 2 important milestone in RDS and Habs life, still even if I didn't care about the guy, and honestly I don't really that much, I care about the importance and the relevance of the information that the french listeners can have access to. And as of now, it's far from behing great. We have all of those clowns and/or entertainers, but not a lot of knowledgeable minds and in a province, in a city where you talk hockey 12 months a year, it's purely pathetic.

I love all of you....or most of you..... but it's not normal that you can learn 1000 more things about our team in here than any french fans that can't properly read english can ever learn.....And then people wonder why we keep reading pathetic posts on the RDS and TQS talkbacks....well it's just a demonstration of what the fans hear and read.
I think most of it was verry low level. Often he sounded like eklund talking about stuff and me thinking...wait...I just read the oposite.

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