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07-22-2008, 03:19 PM
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OVERPAID Ex-Habs we let go........HA!

Create your own "Over-paid" ex HABS roster. Get as "high" as you can!
You don't even have to go too far back,.....

eg:

Theodore: 5.50 MILLION$$$$$
Souray: 5.75 MILLION$$$$$
Streit: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
RYDER: 4.50 MILLION$$$$$
Ribeiro: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
etc.... MILLION$$$$$

It would have been 50% of the salary cap!

ps: $ might be a bit off.....

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07-22-2008, 03:22 PM
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Ribeiro is not overpaid... at PPG production, he's worth the 5 mil

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Ribeiro is not overpaid... at PPG production, he's worth the 5 mil
I would take Koivu or Kovalev at 4 and change anyday over Ribiero.

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Ribeiro Overpaid? The guy is PPG, what more do you want from him? Koivu is getting 4.75m and he isn't close to PPG. You'd be a fool to not take Ribeiro at 5m with the way he's been playing. He was not only great in the season, but the playoffs as well.

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I would take Koivu or Kovalev at 4 and change anyday over Ribiero.
That's not what I was saying, just that the OP stated OVERPAID, and I don't think that Ribeiro at PPG production is overpaid at 5 mil, not that I would take him over Kovy or Koivu, not in a lifetime, I'm no fan of Ribs.

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I would take Koivu or Kovalev at 4 and change anyday over Ribiero.
Ribs had a better season then both these two. He also had a better playoffs than Kovalev. Say what you will about the guy but if you haven't seen him play recently....you best keep your mouth shut or come out looking like a fool.

People change.

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Ribs had a better season then both these two. He also had a better playoffs than Kovalev. Say what you will about the guy but if you haven't seen him play recently....you best keep your mouth shut or come out looking like a fool.

People change.
I wouldn't say he played better than Kovy... It's much easier to get an assist than a goal and although Ribs got a better +/-, he was playing for the most part with Lethinen and Morrow. As for the playoffs, they had similar PPG, although Kovy scored twice as many goals in almost half the games played.

I do agree over Koivu tho.

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Create your own "Over-paid" ex HABS roster. Get as "high" as you can!
You don't even have to go too far back,.....

eg:

Theodore: 5.50 MILLION$$$$$
Souray: 5.75 MILLION$$$$$
Streit: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
RYDER: 4.50 MILLION$$$$$
Ribeiro: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
etc.... MILLION$$$$$

It would have been 50% of the salary cap!

ps: $ might be a bit off.....

Ribeiro is 5M/year
Ryder is 4M/year
Streit is 4,25M/year
Souray is 5,5M/year
Theodore is 4,5M/year

At least try to get the right numbers!

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I wouldn't say he played better than Kovy... It's much easier to get an assist than a goal and although Ribs got a better +/-, he was playing for the most part with Lethinen and Morrow. As for the playoffs, they had similar PPG, although Kovy scored twice as many goals in almost half the games played.
If you've watched Ribeiro play this past season, he truly controls the play. It's similar to what Kovalev does, but he wastes less time due to having much better vision.

I think it's immature to keep going back on what happened with him in Montreal. He's a different player and person now. He always back checks, and his skating isn't an issue anymore.

Also, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could say that they would take a 35 year old Kovalev, who is UFA next year and will probably command 6m+ over a 28 year old entering his prime who's locked down to a very good contract.

Post this up on the main boards and I guarantee that Ribeiro wins.

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07-22-2008, 03:45 PM
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Ribeiro is 5M/year
Ryder is 4M/year
Streit is 4,25M/year
Souray is 5,5M/year
Theodore is 4,5M/year

At least try to get the right numbers!
Thanks for doing the research for me..........I saved 10 minutes of my life...

But thanks for pointing that out.....

And Ribeiro NEVER would have done what he's doing for Dallas. Sure people change, but he would not have changed HERE!

So yes, IMO, he's overpaid.......

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If you've watched Ribeiro play this past season, he truly controls the play. It's similar to what Kovalev does, but he wastes less time due to having much better vision.

I think it's immature to keep going back on what happened with him in Montreal. He's a different player and person now. He always back checks, and his skating isn't an issue anymore.

Also, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could say that they would take a 35 year old Kovalev, who is UFA next year and will probably command 6m+ over a 28 year old entering his prime who's locked down to a very good contract.

Post this up on the main boards and I guarantee that Ribeiro wins.

Stop making up arguments... Ribeiro didn't have a better season than Kovalev.

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eg:

Theodore: 5.50 MILLION$$$$$
Souray: 5.75 MILLION$$$$$
Streit: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
RYDER: 4.50 MILLION$$$$$

It would have been 50% of the salary cap!

ps: $ might be a bit off.....


the first 3 are about 3 millions overpaid and the last one is 4,5 millions overpaid.. What a joke..


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Thanks for doing the research for me..........I saved 10 minutes of my life...

But thanks for pointing that out.....

And Ribeiro NEVER would have done what he's doing for Dallas. Sure people change, but he would not have changed HERE!

So yes, IMO, he's overpaid.......
Why do you think it took me 10 minutes? It took me the time to write this post. Why would I have to research? These signings happened for the most part less than 1 month ago... And the others less than one year ago.

And whatever Ribeiro would have done here, he did have a great season season in Dallas and deserves 5M. It's a really reasonable contract.

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If you've watched Ribeiro play this past season, he truly controls the play. It's similar to what Kovalev does, but he wastes less time due to having much better vision.

I think it's immature to keep going back on what happened with him in Montreal. He's a different player and person now. He always back checks, and his skating isn't an issue anymore.

Also, I don't see how anyone in their right mind could say that they would take a 35 year old Kovalev, who is UFA next year and will probably command 6m+ over a 28 year old entering his prime who's locked down to a very good contract.

Post this up on the main boards and I guarantee that Ribeiro wins.

Yes, still, goals are harder to make than assists. Kovalev is a scorer first, not a playmaker and Ribs is the opposite. Pleks and Kosty are very good, but not yet at the level that Morrow and Lehtinen play. Those are different variables and I'm not sure Ribs would have the same success playing with the players present in Montreal.

The paradigm was set with the present salaries, not what you "predict" Kovalev will make next year. And on that matter, you are not a prophet, Kovy might just take a hometown discount and cost around the same salary as before or even less, nobody knows what will happen, so you cannot set a comparison on an undefined variable. kovy might be older, but he also brings leadership and experience, two things Ribeiro doesn't have to mind doing, playing with Morrow and Lehtinen.

About the bolded part, I never said this, stop arguing about something I haven't said. What is immature is creating an argument that is totally off-base to what you are responding to.

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add up hainsey who sign a ridiculous contract with atl and huet

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Stop making up arguments... Ribeiro didn't have a better season than Kovalev.
If you say so. Like I said, go up on the main boards with no bias, see who wins in a argument of Ribeiro vs Kovalev.

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Create your own "Over-paid" ex HABS roster. Get as "high" as you can!
You don't even have to go too far back,.....

eg:

Theodore: 5.50 MILLION$$$$$
Souray: 5.75 MILLION$$$$$
Streit: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
RYDER: 4.50 MILLION$$$$$
Ribeiro: 5.25 MILLION$$$$$
etc.... MILLION$$$$$

It would have been 50% of the salary cap!

ps: $ might be a bit off.....
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Yes, still, goals are harder to make than assists. Kovalev is a scorer first, not a playmaker and Ribs is the opposite. Pleks and Kosty are very good, but not yet at the level that Morrow and Lehtinen play. Those are different variables and I'm not sure Ribs would have the same success playing with the players present in Montreal.
I agree with Morrow, but both players are considerably better offensively than Lehtinen at this point. Also, Morrow had a career year playing alongside Ribeiro. I don't think there's a large difference between Morrow and Plekanec offensively either.

Also would you use the "goals are harder to make than assists" if comparing Crosby and Ovechkin? Cuz that is a ridiculously stupid argument. Playmakers are just as important as scorers.

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The paradigm was set with the present salaries, not what you "predict" Kovalev will make next year. And on that matter, you are not a prophet, Kovy might just take a hometown discount and cost around the same salary as before or even less, nobody knows what will happen, so you cannot set a comparison on an undefined variable. kovy might be older, but he also brings leadership and experience, two things Ribeiro doesn't have to mind doing, playing with Morrow and Lehtinen.
And he also brings inconsistency. Do we know which Kovalev will show up this year?

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Yep, i think Huet should be on that list aswell 5.625M$

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Ribs had a better season then both these two.
STOP CALLING HIM RIBS!!!


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the first 3 are about 3 millions overpaid and the last one is 4,5 millions overpaid.. What a joke..
maybe Ryder will play better in the bruins system
and be a consistent 30 goals a year for the 3 years
only then we will know if its a joke

I'm looking forward to see gainey do is miracle work with all the RFA'S\UFA'S next season

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Did you get ANY of those salaries right?

* Ryder is getting $4M, not $4.5M.. and he's going to be a first line player with Marc Savard. I love Koivu and all, but offensively, he's not in his league.

* Streit got $4.1M, not anywhere close to the $5.25M you have listed. At his current salary and the minutes he'll be playing, it might not be THAT bad of a contract. I see him as a $3-$3.5M player, so it's not a huge overpayment.

* Ribeiro is getting $5M, instead of the extra $250,000 you listed. He was also one of the best offensive players in the league last year. Overpayment? I don't think so, and I hate the guy.

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I agree with Morrow, but both players are considerably better offensively than Lehtinen at this point. Also, Morrow had a career year playing alongside Ribeiro. I don't think there's a large difference between Morrow and Plekanec offensively either.

Also would you use the "goals are harder to make than assists" if comparing Crosby and Ovechkin? Cuz that is a ridiculously stupid argument. Playmakers are just as important as scorers.

And he also brings inconsistency. Do we know which Kovalev will show up this year?
Do you know which Ribeiro will show up this year?

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