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07-22-2008, 07:07 PM
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Did he have much help when he took off Mike Green's jock, or when he took a cruise through the entire Thrashers line up? I don't think he'll decline if he doesn't play with Plekanec or Kovalev - and if he doesn't play with them do you honestly think playing with Sergei, Saku, or Tanguay will make him any worse?
Thats the thing, i think he would be better off with other linemates where he is the go to guy. Next year he will have more confidence and should look to take more space.

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I'm really high on AK46; but he still has a lot to prove, he is young and still developping

but he has the complete package to become a hell of a player
we need to not start a thread to trade him as soon as he is 3 games without a point...
give him time and he'll prove to all of us what he is capable of.

I also think (and always did) that he has more upsides then serge; different kind of game but overall he has more tools to become a star in this league; which does not mean more effective then his bro.
what I like about him is that he seizes his chances when he gets them....scored in his 1rst game as a hab... scored important goals... good hands ... great hockey sense.... leave him in kovalev's shadow for the next season and let him develop into what he is bound to be... one of the league's deadliest game breakers.

will he rack up 90 pts .... who knows... but one thing is for sure... his talent is gold... his futur is bright...

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what I like about him is that he seizes his chances when he gets them....scored in his 1rst game as a hab... scored important goals... good hands ... great hockey sense.... leave him in kovalev's shadow for the next season and let him develop into what he is bound to be... one of the league's deadliest game breakers.

will he rack up 90 pts .... who knows... but one thing is for sure... his talent is gold... his futur is bright...
Now that Bob's brought in a LW playmaker (Tanguay) I'd rather see him moved back to RW, playing with Tanguay/Koivu, who can both put the puck on his stick.

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I'm only in favour of taking him off Kovalev's line if someone else on the team bucks up and shows they can finish off Kovy's plays to keep kovy productive. We've all seen what happens to kovy if he feels his hard work isn't being appreciated.

Keep Kovy scoring points and this team will be the highest scoring team again next year. Take the finishing talent and skill off kovy's line and watch him sulk by December and get traded at the deadline....

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whats there to discuss he's a pimp and thats final

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I'm only in favour of taking him off Kovalev's line if someone else on the team bucks up and shows they can finish off Kovy's plays to keep kovy productive. We've all seen what happens to kovy if he feels his hard work isn't being appreciated.

Keep Kovy scoring points and this team will be the highest scoring team again next year. Take the finishing talent and skill off kovy's line and watch him sulk by December and get traded at the deadline....

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I like your lines.. nice.

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Overall those are pretty nice but personally I wouldn't put Latendresse with our most explosive player.

Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev
S.Kost - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

Looky there. Everyone playing their natural positions :O

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Is S.Kost really a natural LW? Where did he played in London?

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Well to be fair the RedScull guy DID say those quotes were BS, so he was just showing him that they weren't
Yep no hard feelings about that at all. I truly didn't realize I said it. a few posts out of 8000 (most over the last two seasons) and it's no wonder why.

I jumped because most everything that people post on here without any evidence is generally BS.

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Overall those are pretty nice but personally I wouldn't put Latendresse with our most explosive player.

Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev
S.Kost - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

Looky there. Everyone playing their natural positions :O
If that's Sundin instead of Chipchura I would agree. But Chips and Tender on the same line could be exposed due to an aggregate lack of speed.

By the way, I don't think Kostopoulos is a natural LW.

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Overall those are pretty nice but personally I wouldn't put Latendresse with our most explosive player.

Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev
S.Kost - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

Looky there. Everyone playing their natural positions :O
Tanguay might be the guy to pull it off. Theres enough skill on that first line to break some ankles and create some tap ins....both top lines actually.

I actually like these lines provided Higgins still gets his minutes PP & PK (due to putting a forward on the pt).

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Overall those are pretty nice but personally I wouldn't put Latendresse with our most explosive player.

Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev
S.Kost - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

Looky there. Everyone playing their natural positions :O
As has been said above, Sergei's a natural RW, but I do like the lines. I might do a 3-way swap among Tanguay, S.Kost and Lats to achieve:

Latendresse - Plekanec - Kovalev
Tanguay - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - S.Kost
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

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Sergei is a natural LW playing RW
Andrei is a natural RW playing LW.

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As has been said above, Sergei's a natural RW, but I do like the lines. I might do a 3-way swap among Tanguay, S.Kost and Lats to achieve:

Latendresse - Plekanec - Kovalev
Tanguay - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - S.Kost
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque
Sergei = LW. Lats = RW. A.Kost = RW.

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Out of curiosity, when has Sergei played LW in the last few years? On the Belarussian team?

He played RW in London, Hamilton and in Montreal.

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Overall those are pretty nice but personally I wouldn't put Latendresse with our most explosive player.

Tanguay - Plekanec - Kovalev
S.Kost - Koivu - A.Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - Latendresse
Kostopolous - Lapierre - Laraque

Looky there. Everyone playing their natural positions :O
These are my dream lines for next season...mostly because I want to see the Kostitsyns together, you don't want to split up Plekanec-Kovalev, and I want to see Chipchura-Latendresse back together

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Out of curiosity, when has Sergei played LW in the last few years? On the Belarussian team?

He played RW in London, Hamilton and in Montreal.
He played LW in London as far as I know. Kane played RW.

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He played LW in London as far as I know. Kane played RW.
He didn't play on the same line as Kane except when they were trailing late in a game from what I watched in person and on TV.

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He didn't play on the same line as Kane except when they were trailing late in a game from what I watched in person and on TV.
We must have watched different games.

The only time I've seen Kost playing the right side was on the PP, where he played the point.


Edit: Just for fun, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1WA8LntWHU

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We must have watched different games.

The only time I've seen Kost playing the right side was on the PP, where he played the point.


Edit: Just for fun, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1WA8LntWHU
Yeah, you're right that in that video he looks to be on the left a whole bunch.

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I'd rather see these lines

Sergei Plekanec Kovalev
Tanguay Koivu Andrei

I still think that when Andrei and Sergei play together they get a little too fancy and I don't niether one is mature enough to play with each other.

Andrei plays his natural position with a mature playmaker in Tanguay and Koivu, he will be the sniper of that line gaurenteed.

Sergei will benefit from Pleks and Kovy more that Andrei because he's a natural playmaker. Pleks scored 29 last and Kovy scored 35?(Can someone correct me on that). Sergei won't live under the shadow of those two players because he'll be dishing out the passes which he loves to do, where as Andrei felt as though he had to pass because he was playing with Kovy and Pleks so he never got to use his natural instincts.

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If that's Sundin instead of Chipchura I would agree. But Chips and Tender on the same line could be exposed due to an aggregate lack of speed.

By the way, I don't think Kostopoulos is a natural LW.
Don't believe it for a second. Higgins is above average fast and Chip is at about average, although he looks choppy he gets where he needs to be.

Lats can pick up the trailer.

And since everyone else is doing it:

Tanguay Koivu AK
SK Pleks Kovy
Lats Chip Higgins
Begin Lapierre Kost/Laracque

No one out of position, a triggerman and decent puckmovers on the top three lines, + a good mix of defensive responsibility all the way down to the 4th.

Thats a pretty good looking lineup right there Mats/No Mats.

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Don't believe it for a second. Higgins is above average fast and Chip is at about average, although he looks choppy he gets where he needs to be.

Lats can pick up the trailer.

And since everyone else is doing it:

Tanguay Koivu AK
SK Pleks Kovy
Lats Chip Higgins
Begin Lapierre Kost/Laracque

No one out of position, a triggerman and decent puckmovers on the top three lines, + a good mix of defensive responsibility all the way down to the 4th.

Thats a pretty good looking lineup right there Mats/No Mats.
Chipchura's not often going to be down low, anyway. He'll always be fairly high in the slot because as far as digging goes, he's definitely at this point the poorer of the three.

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Chipchura's not often going to be down low, anyway. He'll always be fairly high in the slot because as far as digging goes, he's definitely at this point the poorer of the three.
Chipchura is amazing on the boards.

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