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07-23-2008, 12:08 PM
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Glen Murray

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/..._on_waive.html

The Bruins have placed Glen Murray on unconditional waivers, the first step of the buyout process.

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07-23-2008, 12:09 PM
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YES!!! W00t. No surprise though

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I thought the buyout period was over...

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what's the buyout amt?

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Wonder what he fetches as a UFA.
He presumably wasn't tradeable w/ a $4.15m cap hit but I'm sure he has value for some team at a lower price.

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I say he goes to Atlanta or Florida

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what's the buyout amt?
Roughly $1.8 million; just enough to get us under the cap.

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I guess whether or not he gets picked up determines who was right in that "value of Glen Murray?" thread not too long ago.

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I thought the buyout period was over...
You get a 48 hour window to buy someone out if a player elects for arbitration like Wideman did. EVEN if the player ends up signing before arbitration.

Hopefully no one claims Murray.

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So we (bruins) basicly waive Murray to get for the next 3 years a player of his kind and salary with even less production (Ryder) ? Good job

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I'm not a fan of his, but I have no doubt that Murray could help the right team. If he can be signed for $2-3 mil after a buyout, then he might be a pretty decent find. Though he's 35, he still has a terrific shot. It's not always accurate, but it's quick and hard. He's at his best floating into the circles where he can take sweet feeds to off his one-timer. That's his bread and butter.

On the flipside, my biggest pet-peeve about Murray is that he rarely comes up big when it matters most. Aside from the regular season games, as a supposed goalscorer, he never lit the lamp much in the postseason. Not only that, but for a guy of his stature, he's not physical nor does he use his size and strength to power to the net. He can also take amazingly stupid and/or lazy penalties.

But rest he still has strong wrists and can shoot the puck with some of the best.

Looking ahead, I think he will have a surprisingly decent season. He's motivated - aching to come back and disprove his critics from last season. His intention is to come into camp in great shape and hit stride early (rather than his typical slow start). With a nifty passer who can thread the needles and a speedy or banging type winger who can help open space, Murray could still score some goals and help someone ...

Though not for $4.15 mil.

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07-23-2008, 12:58 PM
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Does anybody still think this WASN'T orchestrated by Chiarelli (and his former business partner) Wideman's agent? We've known since the Ryder signing that the B's would be over the cap, and before the buyout period ended, Wideman filed for arbitration (two weeks early) eliminating any chance of an offer sheet.

Sweet move by Chiarelli, to make sure he got the guy he wanted (Ryder) before cutting loose the guy he's replacing (Murray).

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He has to be one of the worst skaters in the NHL today.

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Since the buyout period is over I would wager to guess the Bruins have made a verbal agreement with another team that they would claim Murray if the Bruins put him on waivers.

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Every team has 2 buyouts for the current CBA. These only count when a player gets bought after the buyout period. Something like that

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So we (bruins) basicly waive Murray to get for the next 3 years a player of his kind and salary with even less production (Ryder) ? Good job
Except Murray never hit 30 goals until he was 29, whereas Ryder has two 30 goal season under his belt at the age of 28. Nice try.

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Since the buyout period is over I would wager to guess the Bruins have made a verbal agreement with another team that they would claim Murray if the Bruins put him on waivers.
why would you wager that?

and what do you want to wager?

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doesnt a team have a chance to pick him up on waviers and have boston pay half his salary? If so Murray at 2 mill isnt that bad and I'm sure a team would be intrested at trade deadline in his services (20 goal guy) at that price, he's a free ahent at the end of the year anyways.

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07-23-2008, 01:10 PM
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doesnt a team have a chance to pick him up on waviers and have boston pay half his salary? If so Murray at 2 mill isnt that bad and I'm sure a team would be intrested at trade deadline in his services (20 goal guy) at that price, he's a free ahent at the end of the year anyways.
Only if he was sent to the AHL and he was on re-entry waivers, which he's not.

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doesnt a team have a chance to pick him up on waviers and have boston pay half his salary? If so Murray at 2 mill isnt that bad and I'm sure a team would be intrested at trade deadline in his services (20 goal guy) at that price, he's a free ahent at the end of the year anyways.
That's only if he's put on re-entry waivers...which he won't be if they are planning to buy him out.

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Since the buyout period is over I would wager to guess the Bruins have made a verbal agreement with another team that they would claim Murray if the Bruins put him on waivers.
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Every team has 2 buyouts for the current CBA. These only count when a player gets bought after the buyout period. Something like that
No. If a player elects to go to arbitration, his team gets a buyout window, once an agreement is reached, to buy out up to three contracts, so that they can react to the player's new deal. This is true, even if the player never goes to the hearing.

Chiarelli didn't want to buy out Murray if he couldn't upgrade him in free agency, so the belief is that he had Wideman's agent, who was his former partner, file for arbitration, thereby extending the buyout window, and giving him time to see if he could get the guy he was after in free agency.

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[QUOTE=MeisterBruinmaker;14966103]I'm not a fan of his, but I have no doubt that Murray could help the right team. If he can be signed for $2-3 mil after a buyout, then he might be a pretty decent find. Though he's 35, he still has a terrific shot. It's not always accurate, but it's quick and hard. He's at his best floating into the circles where he can take sweet feeds to off his one-timer. That's his bread and butter.


Hard to argue with this...

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Wouldn't be surprised to see one of the LA-ATL-FLA-TOR contingent bring him in and maybe trade him at the deadline if he has a decent season.

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Unsurprising development.

imo The Kings should bring him back.

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