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07-30-2008, 10:51 AM
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PP Units

Ok, we've covered the even strength line combos to death, and considering some of the threads popping up, i'll give us one more where we can talk some REAL hockey.

The Rangers have lost some key special teams players and added some new ones.

What's your take on the Power Play and how it will be run?

Heres mine with a team featuring Prucha and one without. I believe if Prucha isnt traded he should get some top minutes, if not theres no use using him as a depth player, but thats a whole different thread.

w/Prucha

1st Unit

Zherdev - Gomez - Naslund (Z and Naz switch sides for one timers)
Roszival - Redden

2nd Unit

Prucha - Drury - Dubinsky
Staal - Mara

w/o Prucha

1st Unit

Naslund - Gomez - Zherdev
Roszival - Redden

2nd Unit

Drury - Dubinsky - Dawes (Drury could take faceoffs, and Dubi goes to the net)
Staal - Mara


Whatever the combos may be, I'll be thrilled to see a PP that is focus on the net and not the RW boards. I could definitely see Dawes getting some quality numbers here if he can get some chemistry with his unit, as Dubinsky because he should be used as a Graves type screening in front. I dont know who would go to the front of the net on that first unit, it could actually be Zherdev. Thats the problem with the units, theres no force in front, which is why we might see Dubi or even Sjostrom or Fritsche mixed in to garner attention to the crease.


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07-30-2008, 10:56 AM
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drury-gomez-naslund
redden-rozsival


dawes-dubinsky-zherdev
girardi-mara/kalinin

pp qb on the first is gomez.....drury goes to the net

pp qb on the second is zherdev....dubinsky goes to the net

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drury-gomez-naslund
redden-rozsival


dawes-dubinsky-zherdev
girardi-mara/kalinin

pp qb on the first is gomez.....drury goes to the net

pp qb on the second is zherdev....dubinsky goes to the net
I like those.

There are actually more combos then you think. No Stall/Prucha?

Plus, Redden and Rozsival wont be facing each other for one time shots the way you have it.

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07-30-2008, 11:05 AM
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I like those.

There are actually more combos then you think. No Stall/Prucha?
i think staal will get more than enough playing time if he is on the first-pairing and on the first pk(where he should be).....dont want to run him into the ground

also, prucha is one dimensional...he cant pass.....not someone i want on the pp

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w/ prucha

Drury - Gomez - Naslund
Redden - Rozsival


Prucha - Dubinsky - Zherdev
Staal - Mara/Girardi

w/o

Drury - Gomez - Zherdev
Redden - Rozsival

Sjostrom/Dawes - Dubinsky - Naslund
Staal - Mara/Girardi

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i think staal will get more than enough playing time if he is on the first-pairing and on the first pk(where he should be).....dont want to run him into the ground

also, prucha is one dimensional...he cant pass.....not someone i want on the pp
Points taken.

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07-30-2008, 11:08 AM
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Drury Gomez Dawes

Rozsival Redden

Zherdev Dubinsky Naslund

Staal Girardi

Prucha is going to have a tough time getting power play time..

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I like Cally in front........better/quicker hands, better set-up man then than Dubi....similar to Dury and is willing to pay the price.........Proved it in '06 in the run and playoff's on the PP. Cally/ Avery/Shanny........06 second unit for the playoffs.

Gomer and Cally have good chemistry add a third and we may have something to consider.

Dubi was there last year because of JAGER

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07-30-2008, 11:20 AM
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Not to be a nuisance as I think Staal will eventually be able to point the PP, but why not Kalinin in his place for now? Kalinin has the shot...

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Not to be a nuisance as I think Staal will eventually be able to point the PP, but why not Kalinin in his place for now? Kalinin has the shot...
thats the way i had it...its better to even out the TOI than try to pile it all on a 21 y/o.....let the kid concentrate on the pk and ev and keep his time a bit lower

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PP unit #1:

Naslund-Gomez-Prucha
.....Redden-Mara

PP Unit #2:

Dubinsky-Drury-Zherdev
.....Kalinin-Rozsival

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Drury - Gomez - Zherdev
Redden - Girardi

Dawes - Dubinsky - Naslund
Rozsival - Mara

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i just want to see drury firing the rubber from the top of the circle.

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Will the season just start already!

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I say we find PP units that don't work, then stick with them through out the season and playoffs. Then give Renney an extension for his creativity...

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petr prucha does not belong on any first pp unit. nor, imo, the second unit even...

your first unit needs to get the majority of the pp time, therefore those will be your best players and scorers. and, ill take a different direction here, i happen to like 4 forwards and 1 dman on the pp especially with guys like redden and rozy who can both skate so well.

1st unit

drury gomez dawes naslund redden

2nd unit

keep-dru and dawes out but add dubi zherdev and rozy for gomez naslund redden

heres why i like that 1st unit.

drury is a clutch scorer and good around the net. gomez and redden are the breakout starters and puck movers. dawes is the closest thing we have to a sniper and naslund still has that wicked shot. redden is the pp qb from the point.

2nd unit add another puck mover in Z and gives gomez a blow, dubi needs to go to the front and cause havoc and rozy goes to the point and SHOOTS the puck.

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petr prucha does not belong on any first pp unit. nor, imo, the second unit even...

your first unit needs to get the majority of the pp time, therefore those will be your best players and scorers. and, ill take a different direction here, i happen to like 4 forwards and 1 dman on the pp especially with guys like redden and rozy who can both skate so well.

1st unit

drury gomez dawes naslund redden

2nd unit

keep-dru and dawes out but add dubi zherdev and rozy for gomez naslund redden

heres why i like that 1st unit.

drury is a clutch scorer and good around the net. gomez and redden are the breakout starters and puck movers. dawes is the closest thing we have to a sniper and naslund still has that wicked shot. redden is the pp qb from the point.

2nd unit add another puck mover in Z and gives gomez a blow, dubi needs to go to the front and cause havoc and rozy goes to the point and SHOOTS the puck.
Why do you think Dawes, who has never in his NHL Career have PP time or success go ahead of Prucha who has shined when he has PP time?

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Why do you think Dawes, who has never in his NHL Career have PP time or success go ahead of Prucha who has shined when he has PP time?

ill take dawes' overall talent including, his passing, shot, quick release, offensive instincts, goal scoring ability and skating over pruchas heart, soul, effort and occasional goal here and there everyday.

pp or even strength. doesnt matter, i like dawes' game better

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Why do you think Dawes, who has never in his NHL Career have PP time or success go ahead of Prucha who has shined when he has PP time?
because dawes can threaten with his pass as well as his shot

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Dubinsky - Gomez - Naslund
Rozsival - Staal

Zherdev - Drury - Dawes
Girardi - Redden

Redden on the 2nd unit because I feel a bit more comfortable with him running the play from the blue line.

Pretty much keeping the top two lines (in my mind) together on the same units while switching the wingers to get inside shots, the same for the defensive pairs.

For the people who are going to demand an explanation for why I put Dawes in over Prucha: Dawes is a left handed shot and is a much better passer than Prucha could ever hope to be. I don't think Prucha could spend the entire shift parked down by the net like he used to without getting plowed over a dozen times.

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Dubinsky - Gomez - Naslund
Rozsival - Staal

Zherdev - Drury - Dawes
Girardi - Redden

Redden on the 2nd unit because I feel a bit more comfortable with him running the play from the blue line.

Pretty much keeping the top two lines (in my mind) together on the same units while switching the wingers to get inside shots, the same for the defensive pairs.

For the people who are going to demand an explanation for why I put Dawes in over Prucha: Dawes is a left handed shot and is a much better passer than Prucha could ever hope to be. I don't think Prucha could spend the entire shift parked down by the net like he used to without getting plowed over a dozen times.

i like the players out there......i dont know if i like the defense.......

drury and naslund IMO needs to be with a playmaker.....so they should be split up.....

naslund+gomez
drury+zherdev

that leaves dawes and dubinsky IMO at forward who should be on the pp......

considering dubinsky is a center and gomez only plays center, i would put him out with zherdev and drury

drury-dubinsky-zherdev

naslund-gomez-dawes


the four defenseman who i think should be on the pp:
rozsival
redden
girardi
mara


redden-mara

rozsival-girardi(considering i think this will be the second pairing)

drury-dubinsky-zherdev
redden-mara


---this unit will move the puck down low and look for shots from everywhere and look for tips coming from the shooters on the blue-line....really excited to finally see a defenseman who shoots with his head up(redden) be paired with drury as that is where drury scored a lot of his points in buffalo......also adds another dimension to the pp


naslund-gomez-dawes
rozsival-girardi


---this unit will run through gomez....he will be the undisputed pp qb here and he has 4 shooters with him....naslund and dawes will hover around the net and help him distribute the puck and rozsival and girardi on the point who can really shoot the puck.....the one thing this group will have to do is continuously move as they dont have any big guys to stand in front of the net....they will ned to do it by committee and hover in the high slot looking for high tips and such to make the defenseman play them higher and sneak a guy in the backdoor

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because dawes can threaten with his pass as well as his shot
i understand where you are coming from but when Prucha does get PP time he will score 20-30 goals per season again.

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i understand where you are coming from but when Prucha does get PP time he will score 20-30 goals per season again.
but do you honestly believe prucha has the better shot?....or the better pass?.....the pp is where players who are creative and have all the skills excell.....where players have extra room.....IMO a player like dawes who has as good, if not better shot than prucha and is a much much better passer than prucha should be out there.....

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but do you honestly believe prucha has the better shot?....or the better pass?.....the pp is where players who are creative and have all the skills excell.....where players have extra room.....IMO a player like dawes who has as good, if not better shot than prucha and is a much much better passer than prucha should be out there.....
okay, then why not have them out together? have 1 full time unit like

Naslund-Gomez-Zherdev
Dawes-Drury-Dubinsky-Prucha


Prucha and Dubinsky rotate? i think it'll make more sense than leaving him out all in general.

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