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07-31-2008, 08:49 AM
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strange how we invite him to camp after Jagr leaves.
Not really. Where was he going to play with Jagr here?

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They either need warm bodies at camp.....

OR

They feel they may have a need for 3rd line center by the time the season starts and want to look at all their options.

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He worked hard. He took hits to make plays.

I guess my point is there were so many others who were worse citizens and worse producers than Nedved that I fail to see why he is the target of your ire.

Especially with the likes of Kamensky, K Stevens, Hathcer, Quintal, etc.
Because he alone had the ability to put the team on his back and get them to the playoffs. We may forget, but many of those years they missed the playoffs by only a couple of points. All we needed was a real star who would take over them team for a couple of weeks, and he never did it. But he had the ability to do it.

Kamensky did not, K Stevens did not, HAtcher and Quintal did not. Trust me, I hated all of them, I watched every god damn game through all those years and it was painful and I wanted to hurt them all, but Nedved to me was the reason we never at least saw a first round sweep during those years. He was a star, or at least he should have been.

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Its a no-risk, potential reward move. If Nedved can see it to playing wing, he could prove to be something. I'm not holding my breath but let's take a look.
As I said, I'd prefer keep the Nedved dice off the table all together.

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As I said, I'd prefer keep the Nedved dice off the table all together.
another non physical player, just what we need, if nedved aint scoring he is useless, at least if shanny aint scoring, he plays physical and fights when needed and gets involved in other ways, when was the last time we saw nedved block a shot

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oh terrific. i really see no point in nedved being anywhere near our camp.

this is another one of those things that make me wonder whos in charge.

so, lets say he plays well- whatever that means, is he a top 6 guy? no. at best, when he was still young, he was another euro softy figure skater. at best. like we dont have someone, anyone, whos better than petr nedved? ugh.

this is beyond stupid.

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at least if shanny aint scoring, he plays physical and fights when needed and gets involved in other ways,
Don't recall that at all last season.

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Because he alone had the ability to put the team on his back and get them to the playoffs. We may forget, but many of those years they missed the playoffs by only a couple of points. All we needed was a real star who would take over them team for a couple of weeks, and he never did it. But he had the ability to do it.

Kamensky did not, K Stevens did not, HAtcher and Quintal did not. Trust me, I hated all of them, I watched every god damn game through all those years and it was painful and I wanted to hurt them all, but Nedved to me was the reason we never at least saw a first round sweep during those years. He was a star, or at least he should have been.
Nedved is not/was never a guy who could carry a team offensively.

My point is compared to the other guys I mentioned, Nedved never embarrassed this team on or off the ice. And that's worth a lot to me.

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this is beyond stupid.
How is a risk-free look at a player stupid?

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Because he alone had the ability to put the team on his back and get them to the playoffs. We may forget, but many of those years they missed the playoffs by only a couple of points. All we needed was a real star who would take over them team for a couple of weeks, and he never did it. But he had the ability to do it.
You're talking about Petr Nedved? What would give you the idea that he was capable of single-handedly carrying these pitiful Ranger teams?

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You're talking about Petr Nedved? What would give you the idea that he was capable of single-handedly carrying these pitiful Ranger teams?
#2 overall draft choice with skills almost unmatched, he just didn't bother to use them, when he wanted to the guy could almost score at will. He just never cared. Better that we didnt make it to the playoffs as he probably would have disappeared like he always had the tendency to do. He was bad enough when we had him the first time, that when they traded for him again, I almost became a Devils fan.

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i'd rather have someone who didn't waste odd man rushes by shooting wide EVERY TIME

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It will be very good for camp. Real solid competition for everyone young and old alike.

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He worked hard. He took hits to make plays.

I guess my point is there were so many others who were worse citizens and worse producers than Nedved that I fail to see why he is the target of your ire.

Especially with the likes of Kamensky, K Stevens, Hathcer, Quintal, etc.
Yeah, i'm not a Nedved fan, but you can't say the guy didn't try. He just wasn't good enough to carry the offense, I blame the organization for that.

But remember SBOB, he played alot, people are gonna remember him when thinking of the bad times just because he was around more than most.

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Is Petr still married to that incredible female?

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How is a risk-free look at a player stupid?
here we go again. trying to recreate a career thats way past it prime hoping somehow these players magically get younger and better and thus, can in some way help us now.

even at his best, when he could still play, he was everything wrong about this organization. hes won nothing, hes a soft perimeter player and his shot was always high and wide.

usually, things that are free have no value.....

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here we go again. trying to recreate a career thats way past it prime hoping somehow these players magically get younger and better and thus, can in some way help us now.

even at his best, when he could still play, he was everything wrong about this organization. hes won nothing, hes a soft perimeter player and his shot was always high and wide.

usually, things that are free have no value.....
So you agree that it's a risk-free move.

Nobody is trying to recreate a career. They didn't give him a multi-year, one way contract.

Dan Girardi was a "free thing."

Nedved was everything that was wrong about this organization? Very simple thing to say.

I'm not/was never a big Nedved fan, but the guy is being killed for little reason.

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Just think of the return of all the Norris-esque threads about Nedved's "Laser-like" wrist-shot (I can't be the only one who remembers those).

And I believe he split up with his wife.

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Just think of the return of all the Norris-esque threads about Nedved's "Laser-like" wrist-shot (I can't be the only one who remembers those).

And I believe he split up with his wife.

well that settles it, no smokin hot super model wife. no tryout.

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Hes actually a decent PKer and Defensive forward now. When he was with Philly Hitch made him play a lot of D, because he was struggling offensivly.

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#2 overall draft choice with skills almost unmatched, he just didn't bother to use them, when he wanted to the guy could almost score at will.
Skills unmatched? Score at will? I think you're not being realistic about his abilities.

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Nedved is not/was never a guy who could carry a team offensively.

My point is compared to the other guys I mentioned, Nedved never embarrassed this team on or off the ice. And that's worth a lot to me.
I agree. Those other guys still make me cringe. Nedved was sometimes really frustrating (with the dipsy-doodling at the blue line mentioned earlier and his always oh so close wrister) but I never thought he dogged it. I always appreciated that during an awful time in Rangerland. And man, that wrister was deadly at times.

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strange how we invite him to camp after Jagr leaves.
He'll be a token Czech for the Rangers when they open the season in Prague.

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He'll be a token Czech for the Rangers when they open the season in Prague.
maybe we will sign david vyborny as well

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As I said, I'd prefer keep the Nedved dice off the table all together.
Me too....

I'm surprised at how many people are ok with this. Even if Nedved makes the team out of camp (much the way tikkanen did a few years back when he was way over the hill) it doesn't mean anything.....

my fear is nedved does enough to make the team and JUST enough to keep his roster spot thus blocking a younger player that is earning a shot in Hartford......

Nedved isn't a warrior as some have called him...He's not a third line center.....He was bad two years ago in the league, does anybody think he's suddenly found the fountain of youth? Somehow he's going to be an upgrade over one of the centers already here?



all summer long it's been preached how the "culture" of the team has changed (the old messier cliche) and now we want to go back to one of the players that were around during the "dark times." huh? maybe it's just me but i don't get it...



but lets welcome it because there is no risk...sure there is a risk...the risk is he makes the team.....players don't get younger..they get older...his skills were gone two years ago.....

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