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07-31-2008, 10:40 AM
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Gordon's interview complete

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/...s/bruins_blog/

Newsday's Greg Logan writes about Scott Gordon's interview with Islanders GM Garth Snow yesterday, with a source telling the paper that the meeting went "extremely well."

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[I]Newsday's Greg Logan writes about Scott Gordon's interview with Islanders GM Garth Snow yesterday, with a source telling the paper that the meeting went "extremely well."[/I]
Boooo!!!!

if he gets the job I'll be happy for the guy, he's earned it - but i hope he doesn't take the job and one of the regurjitated coaches gets it

is that too selfish?

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Boooo!!!!

if he gets the job I'll be happy for the guy, he's earned it - but i hope he doesn't take the job and one of the regurjitated coaches gets it

is that too selfish?
I agree. I am just as selfish as you.
I admire the development of young players. He seems very skilled.

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Boooo!!!!

if he gets the job I'll be happy for the guy, he's earned it - but i hope he doesn't take the job and one of the regurjitated coaches gets it

is that too selfish?
Honestly I don't know if that would be selfish. Not going to work for the NYI's may be the best decision for his long term career. I know if would get him into the NHL but that organization is a joke. He may be better off waiting for next year.


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I think the Islanders would be foolish not to hire him. He's the perfect fit for a team that's building through their youth.

That said, I hope he stays on one more year in Providence. He's too valuable to this organization with all the new prospects playing for Providence.

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FWIW, this is the first time Logan has used the term "extremely well" with regards to an interview. Hartley, Maurice, and Torts apparently did "well" or "fine." My guess is Gordon is the front-runner now, though the Islanders generally keep things very close to the mouth, so no one really knows.

Snow has said he is looking for someone he can work with "for at least 10 years." Obviously, that might be a stretch, but with an NHL coaching job with security...Gordon would be foolish to turn that down with anyone. Even the Islanders.

Can you tell I want Gordon the most out of anyone?

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****.

That was the "s" word.

Well, I just don't know. ********!

Now I'm just crossing my fingers that Gordon stays.

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I think the Islanders would be foolish not to hire him. He's the perfect fit for a team that's building through their youth.

That said, I hope he stays on one more year in Providence. He's too valuable to this organization with all the new prospects playing for Providence.

Should Gordon be hired by the Islanders, who gets hired to replace him in Providence????????????

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Should Gordon be hired by the Islanders, who gets hired to replace him in Providence????????????
I'm guessing they'd promote Rob Murray.

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Oh snap!

Who would take Gordon's job in Priovidence?

I like Julien and all, but I would much rather see Gordon get his shot with the 2009-2010 Bruins team than have to watch him behind the Isles bench in 2008-2009. Its Lavoillete all over again.

EDIT - sorry. I'm a bit slow. Just saw jahbrations post above. Thanks!


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do we have to let scott go w/o getting anything in return since he under contract.
Maybe our 2nd back in the Nokie trade

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**** ...this couldn't have come at a worse time...

We've only had one year of Julien...a very successful one, but not enough to gauge whether he's here for the long run. I love what Chia and Julien have done for the team, but you can't measure the success of their game plan/philosophy after one year.

Gordon is a fantastic coach and...**** i'm just so pissed right now...the Islanders will drive this guy into the ground like they Laviolette, Stirling and Nolan with their collective incompetence. And what's with the Isles with their ex-Bruins love? Lav, Milbury, Bowness...please not Gordon.

Gordon is a home grown talent...from Mass, played at BC, current Providence coach...right in our own backyard...skullduggerous theft if the Isles get their inept paws on this guy.

The Isles are a joke of a franchise...100 Gordon's can't turn Snow into a competent GM or Wang into an educated sports person. The team won't make the playoffs...and we may lose out on a home grown talent.

God I hope they hire Hartley or Torts...

I'm usually not this judgmental, but I hate the Isles; Mickey Mouse franchise if there ever was one...which is sad considering their early-80's dynasty.

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**** ...this couldn't have come at a worse time...

We've only had one year of Julien...a very successful one, but not enough to gauge whether he's here for the long run. I love what Chia and Julien have done for the team, but you can't measure the success of their game plan/philosophy after one year.

Gordon is a fantastic coach and...**** i'm just so pissed right now...the Islanders will drive this guy into the ground like they Laviolette, Stirling and Nolan with their collective incompetence. And what's with the Isles with their ex-Bruins love? Lav, Milbury, Bowness...please not Gordon.

Gordon is a home grown talent...from Mass, played at BC, current Providence coach...right in our own backyard...skullduggerous theft if the Isles get their inept paws on this guy.

Down Boy! Have a freakin' Car Bomb or 2, then we'll put the thinking hats on and then we'll do this skullduggerous business stuff you speak of

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Down Boy! Have a freakin' Car Bomb or 2, then we'll put the thinking hats on and then we'll do this skullduggerous business stuff you speak of
LOL,

I usually take a deep breath before I post, but I read the article in Newsday this morning over breakfast and my Honey Bunches of Oats had a bitter taste.

I hate the Isles and tend to let my hatred take over sometimes.

Thanks for talking me off the ledge...I'm having a glass of Hendrick's, on the rocks, with a wedge of cucumber to calm the nerves. Sometimes I like to pretend I have a ton of money and imbibe drinks that are beyond my pay scale.

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**** ...this couldn't have come at a worse time...

We've only had one year of Julien...a very successful one, but not enough to gauge whether he's here for the long run. I love what Chia and Julien have done for the team, but you can't measure the success of their game plan/philosophy after one year.

Gordon is a fantastic coach and...**** i'm just so pissed right now...the Islanders will drive this guy into the ground like they Laviolette, Stirling and Nolan with their collective incompetence. And what's with the Isles with their ex-Bruins love? Lav, Milbury, Bowness...please not Gordon.

Gordon is a home grown talent...from Mass, played at BC, current Providence coach...right in our own backyard...skullduggerous theft if the Isles get their inept paws on this guy.

The Isles are a joke of a franchise...100 Gordon's can't turn Snow into a competent GM or Wang into an educated sports person. The team won't make the playoffs...and we may lose out on a home grown talent.

God I hope they hire Hartley or Torts...

I'm usually not this judgmental, but I hate the Isles; Mickey Mouse franchise if there ever was one...which is sad considering their early-80's dynasty.
...Wow.

I'll give you Laviolette, but Stirling was a terrible coach, and Nolan had one-too-many run-ins with management (whether they know what they're doing or not), which is why he's gone.

You're right the Islanders won't make the playoffs. They are rebuilding and are going with a lot of kids. That's why Gordon is a great candidate. The point is for Gordon (or whoever) to be here for the long-haul. To grow with the team and eventually become a contender.

Obviously, the jury is out to see if that happens or not. But it's not going to take less than 2-3 years.

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Thanks for talking me off the ledge...I'm having a glass of Hendrick's, on the rocks, with a wedge of cucumber to calm the nerves. Sometimes I like to pretend I have a ton of money and imbibe drinks that are beyond my pay scale.

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...Wow.

I'll give you Laviolette, but Stirling was a terrible coach, and Nolan had one-too-many run-ins with management (whether they know what they're doing or not), which is why he's gone.

You're right the Islanders won't make the playoffs. They are rebuilding and are going with a lot of kids. That's why Gordon is a great candidate. The point is for Gordon (or whoever) to be here for the long-haul. To grow with the team and eventually become a contender.

Obviously, the jury is out to see if that happens or not. But it's not going to take less than 2-3 years.
One thing is...Islander fans are as die-hard as they come, and some of the most educated in the sport...My lengthy diatribe was directed towards the front-office and not you guys...just wanted to make that clear.

I'm from the Island, so by default I have a lot of information concerning the team. Don't want to go too off topic, but Stirling had/has the same reputation as Gordon...great with kids, high hockey IQ. He had a .521 winning percentage 56-51-11 with the Isles from '03-'06...I don't want to bring up the Isles lineup between those years because you know...same old same old. I think he did as good as anyone could have with that group.

As far as Nolan is concerned, it is a bit disconcerting that this guy now has outstayed his welcome in 2 NHL sites. He is a very good coach however, and I'd have to put most of the blame on Snow, Wang and their bastardized version of running a team.

Remember the Neil Smith debacle (from Wikepedia)

Neil Smith reportedly had grown frustrated with his lack of authority on personnel and staffing decisions, as owner Charles Wang had instituted a setup where decisions were made collectively by a group of advisers rather than by the general manager alone. Wang decided that Smith was incapable of fitting within this model and therefore decided to fire him.

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Just give Maurice the job so their string of incompetence will be unbroken.

Consistency and all that...

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One thing is...Islander fans are as die-hard as they come, and some of the most educated in the sport...My lengthy diatribe was directed towards the front-office and not you guys...just wanted to make that clear.
Thanks.

Having almost went to school in Boston, and being somewhat familiar with the city, I can say the same (and Boston sports in general).

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I'm from the Island, so by default I have a lot of information concerning the team. Don't want to go too off topic, but Stirling had/has the same reputation as Gordon...great with kids, high hockey IQ. He had a .521 winning percentage 56-51-11 with the Isles from '03-'06...I don't want to bring up the Isles lineup between those years because you know...same old same old. I think he did as good as anyone could have with that group.
Admittedly, Stirling did pretty decent in 03-04, but when the lockout ended, he tanked. Yes, the roster was a little worse (most notably no Jonsson/Aucoin/Hamrlik), but he was making easy tactical mistakes (trying to run-and-gun with Montreal), didn't know how to handle DiPietro, mix and matched lines by the game (and sometimes by the period), gave a spot to Nilsson by default (though Milbury may have had some say in that) screwing over Bergenheim (who was much more impressive in camp and eventually ran him to Europe for a year). Stuff like that. He had clearly worn out his welcome.

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As far as Nolan is concerned, it is a bit disconcerting that this guy now has outstayed his welcome in 2 NHL sites. He is a very good coach however, and I'd have to put most of the blame on Snow, Wang and their bastardized version of running a team.
Nolan is a fantastic coach, and I was very angry when they let him go. But the fact is, whether it's Snow/Wang's fault (and I believe that they are just as at fault as Ted) or Nolan's, the two parties had serious differences which dated back to last year. They publicly feuded and tossed subtle-yet-noticeable insults around. Fact is someone had to go, and 10/10 times it's going to be the coach. Still, given Nolan's history with Buffalo and now the NYI, it starts to become a trend, not an exception, which means, IMO, it's going to be VERY HARD for him to find another job in the NHL. Ever.

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Remember the Neil Smith debacle (from Wikepedia)

Neil Smith reportedly had grown frustrated with his lack of authority on personnel and staffing decisions, as owner Charles Wang had instituted a setup where decisions were made collectively by a group of advisers rather than by the general manager alone. Wang decided that Smith was incapable of fitting within this model and therefore decided to fire him.
Which was a joke, and I agree with you. Still, though, it's just like any business. If a high-ranking official does not fit in with the overall plan and direction of the company, you have to let them go. I don't fault Wang for firing Smith. I fault Wang for his stupid committee idea from the get-go. But to Wang's credit, he did tell Smith all of the specifics and Smith thought he could work around that. That's Smith's fault.

Naturally though, if Smith had waited not even 2 years, he'd have full autonomy like Snow has now, and who knows how different the team would look. And Nolan would still probably be coaching.

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I'm guessing the Islanders said Gordon's interview went extremely well because he's currently the cheapest option...

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The Islanders are one of my favorite secondary teams, mostly because of Dipietro. Still, I'd rather keep Gordon.

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Gordon should be the B's coach! Now they loose another good coach while they hire from the outside.

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**** And what's with the Isles with their ex-Bruins love?
That all started with Eddie Westfall in the 1972 expansion draft. He became the front man of their team, moving from third-line RW to first-line C. Moses-like, he retired in '79, and the Isles reached the promised land their first year without him.
Another ex-Bruin of note: Gordie Clark, scout who left the Bruins, inspiring a great quote from Harry Sinden in a press release: "Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do to stop this kind of piracy." I asked Harry about that later, and he said, "Let them get their own people. I don't go down there and take their people."

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Just a bit more insight from James Mirtle's blog. I know it's a blog, but he writes for the Globe and Mail in Toronto. It's an interesting source btw.

http://mirtle.blogspot.com/

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Nice press for Flash. I wouldn't agree with the "defensive specialist" tag. He's much more of a playmaker's coach who puts the onus for gray-area situations on teammates to read and make compensatory support.

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