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07-31-2008, 04:14 AM
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we have the 2 good rt d men. and 4 good left. you would never put the 2 rt together unless everyone else was in the box.

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I'd like to see Drury tried at the point.

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07-31-2008, 12:37 PM
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I'd like to see Drury tried at the point.
definitely, he played the point when colorado won the cup, if i'm not mistaken

Edit: if not 5 on 4, definitely when we have a 5 on 3

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i believe bourque and blake played the point on that team

if drury played defense over those two thewn he should definately be playing the point

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i believe bourque and blake played the point on that team

if drury played defense over those two thewn he should definately be playing the point
maybe on the second unit? i have a very strong feeling he did...

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maybe on the second unit? i have a very strong feeling he did...
Drury did not even get a sniff of the 1st unit on that team with Sakic-Forsberg-Hejduk-Blake-Bourque taking up all of those minutes. I do believe he was on the point for the second unit, but I am not certain.

My PP units look like this:

Dawes-Gomer-Naslund
Drury-Redden

I do love Dru on the point and he should be there on the top unit. Having a guy who can carry it in off the point rather than defenseman who, outside of the insanely talented guys, just love to sit on the point and bomb, is a huge advantage. Gomer setting up Naslund and Dawes for one-timers up front could be beautiful.

Callahan-Dubi-Zherdev
Roszy-Mara

Mara deserves a shot, he has a cannon, just needs to hit the ****ing net with it. Roszy deserves a shot without needing to defer everything to Jags. I think Cally belongs on a PP unit cleaning up garbage. He will get into the high traffic areas and get to pucks. The only thing I might change here is giving one of our two garbage guys (Dubi and Cally) to the top unit. I also love having the top unit as an insane skill, keep away and fire shots type of unit, while the second unit is more of a put pucks on net and clean them up type of unit. Let Mara and Roszy fire them, Dubi and Cally clean them up and Zherdev be the creative presence on the unit who can set up Dubi in the middle waiting for pretty passes.

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w/ drury at the point

Naslund - Gomez - Prucha
Drury - Redden


Sjostrom/Cally/Dawes - Dubinsky - Zherdev
Rozsival - Mara

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guys.....drury is one of the best tippers in the game....he lives around the net....look at most of his goals in buffalo....they come from deflections....thats his bread and butter.....that and getting to rebounds by having more desire than the guy he is facing....yes he has a good shot.....yes he could play the point...but he should be around the net because that is where he is the most effective

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in order to tip pucks in one must have shots that are near the net. something we havent quite figured out.

with no more jaromir -- human pp turnover waiting to happen -- jagr and martin--rather pass it than shoot it -- straka, were bound to be atleast slightly better, no?

heres my powerplay plan.

shoot puck on net, crash net, score goal. repeat.

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in order to tip pucks in one must have shots that are near the net. something we havent quite figured out.

with no more jaromir -- human pp turnover waiting to happen -- jagr and martin--rather pass it than shoot it -- straka, were bound to be atleast slightly better, no?

heres my powerplay plan.

shoot puck on net, crash net, score goal. repeat.
that was the problem last season.....not enough movement meant shots from bad angles....if the defense could move lateraly with the puck to make the box move and then pass lanes would open and then shots could be defelected....thats where redden comes in

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07-31-2008, 06:39 PM
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that was the problem last season.....not enough movement meant shots from bad angles....if the defense could move lateraly with the puck to make the box move and then pass lanes would open and then shots could be defelected....thats where redden comes in
well i dont know then if drury is the answer at the point then, i dont think he has ever seen a shot he didnt want to take.

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in order to tip pucks in one must have shots that are near the net. something we havent quite figured out.

with no more jaromir -- human pp turnover waiting to happen -- jagr and martin--rather pass it than shoot it -- straka, were bound to be atleast slightly better, no?

heres my powerplay plan.

shoot puck on net, crash net, score goal. repeat.
This is a Tom Renney PP. It requires failure and a lack of creativity. Shooting on net is too complex. We should give it to Strudwick and see if he can go coast to coast. If that doesn't work... try it again?

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guys.....drury is one of the best tippers in the game....he lives around the net....look at most of his goals in buffalo....they come from deflections....thats his bread and butter.....that and getting to rebounds by having more desire than the guy he is facing....yes he has a good shot.....yes he could play the point...but he should be around the net because that is where he is the most effective
I feel like in 2006-07 when drury played with buffalo he scored a majority of his pp goals firing one timers from the top of the circle. I don't think he should play the point, maybe on a 5 on 3. I would like to see him used on the wing on either pp unit, he could set up for one timers and as you said hes good at picking up those rebounds around the net.

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I feel like in 2006-07 when drury played with buffalo he scored a majority of his pp goals firing one timers from the top of the circle. I don't think he should play the point, maybe on a 5 on 3. I would like to see him used on the wing on either pp unit, he could set up for one timers and as you said hes good at picking up those rebounds around the net.
he did both....he would curl on the top of the circle but he would also tip pucks and bang-in rebounds

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he did both....he would curl on the top of the circle but he would also tip pucks and bang-in rebounds
yeah i agree completely i think were on the same page, cause i feel drury is most effective being setup he can't control the play in the zone himelf. he get opens around the net, creeps in the slot, bangs in rebounds, can execute one timers. I feel putting drury at the point he wouldnt be as effective on the pp.

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This is a Tom Renney PP. It requires failure and a lack of creativity. Shooting on net is too complex. We should give it to Strudwick and see if he can go coast to coast. If that doesn't work... try it again?

tom renney pp or jaromir jagr pp?

now that jagrs in russia, maybe tommy boy can manup and run a real pp.

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This is a Tom Renney PP. It requires failure and a lack of creativity. Shooting on net is too complex. We should give it to Strudwick and see if he can go coast to coast. If that doesn't work... try it again?
Yeah, I'm sure Renney told the team not to shoot on net.

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Yeah, I'm sure Renney told the team not to shoot on net.
He didn't seem to change anything when they didn't...

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He didn't seem to change anything when they didn't...
not much you can do when jagr is out there and controls everything anyways

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He didn't seem to change anything when they didn't...
You also have to consider that Pearn is the PP coach. The idea that the coaching staff didn't attempt to make changes doesn't float. The PP is suffering so they just ignore it? Come on.

The real problem was the fact that everytime someone got into a position to shoot, they'd pass it back to Jagr. In the meantime, the guys on the 2nd unit would take more shots, but never hit the net, shot them into the goalies chest (Shanahan) or didn't have a good screen set up in front to generate rebounds.

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