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08-01-2008, 03:24 AM
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First off, ridiculously horrific and sad, and prayers go out to his family.

Next, to all those saying that in the cramped, confused, blood-spattered confines of a Greyhound bus, you would have approached a buck-knife wielding maniac -- who can't be blindsided or surrounded -- with no effective weapon available, and done something...well aren't you just special? Get a grip, realize you'd have done nothing better than what the people on the bus did. They evacuated, they secured the exit, they made an attempt at seeing if the victim was still alive and could be helped...and went back to securing the door when it was obviously not the case. Something like that is not sane, and unless you're some hardened army vet, I really think you're talking out of your ass. Just a general comment, no one specific.

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08-01-2008, 03:39 AM
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Obviously it's naive to think this. But I'm really surprised something like this happened in Canada.

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08-01-2008, 03:53 AM
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ohhhhh........my............god.................. Sick, sick and sick ........ I hope this Psycho burn in hell !!

Poor kid... I never would have imagined something like this could happen...


And I agree with Slick Nick with pretty much everything he said...


Now with this freakinnn story, every time I will take public transportation, I will have to look at the person next to me ... Thinking about it just makes me want to puke...

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I'm just sickened by this whole thing. My heart goes out to the young man's family.

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08-01-2008, 04:07 AM
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just pray to allah or whatever that the ******* killer gets ***** in prison so bad that he'll **** blood for the rest of his life. eye for an eye!

RIP Tim Mclean


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08-01-2008, 06:00 AM
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just pray to allah or whatever that the ******* killer gets ***** in prison so bad that he'll **** blood for the rest of his life. eye for an eye!

RIP Tim Mclean
WIth the Justice system the way it is, I'm sure it'll be proven that the killer was dropped on his head as a young child, his mother didn't love him enough, society let him down, and he therefore isn't responsible for his crime. Sick.


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08-01-2008, 06:22 AM
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But still... Forty person let that happen?
I don't care what anyone says. Unless the victim is a friend or relative of yours, you're not doing a thing, and are trying to get to sowewhere safe and calling the cops.

Playing the hero is the dumbest thing that you can do in this type of a situation. Any police officer would tell you the very same thing. This isn't the movies. Reality is, you'd end up getting stabbed to death or close(Think anyone else on the bus would help you?), and making a tragic situation that much more tragic.

Unless you're equally armed. I.e: Pepper spray, a very hot beverage, or anything you can throw into his eyes like sand or what not, you don't stand a chance.

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08-01-2008, 06:38 AM
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The RCMP stated that everyone on the bus did the right thing, they got away & were able to isolate the monster & keep him from getting away & possibly going on some kind of rampage.

In the press conference they stated that the scene even freaked out the most seasoned police officers on the scene!! Wouldn't be surprised if some of the cops on scene will probably need counseling just for seeing the aftermath.

I'm wondering what other possible unsolved mysteries someone like this might of caused during his life. I don't think the guy just snaps at 40 for no reason, maybe he just decided to graduate from carving up street cats or something. I'm sure he's so far gone that they can't even interview him yet, maybe we will never know what sets of a time bomb like this headcase.

I think a lot of people are outraged as this kinda stuff just doesn't happen in Canada. Proves that Psycho's can be anywhere. When I first heard it I instantly thought, well Greyhound, probably in Texas or something with that heat. When I learned where it was, I Was in shock like what!!!! that was on a Canadian bus line!!!


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08-01-2008, 07:13 AM
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i am anxious for the day wehave the rights to stone those criminal... with bricks!!


Wow - the taleban has a job for you then, I guess....
They're out there fighting for just that kind of backwards thinking - sheesh....

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08-01-2008, 07:47 AM
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violence does not solve anything

lifelong imprisonment in badass prisons
I don't want my tax money to be spent on people like that. Lethal injection would be something I prefer, or even better, I wish he puts himself out of misery while in jail.

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08-01-2008, 08:13 AM
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That's why I've been praising death sentence since years. I want it back in Canada just like Texas. Just for cases like that.. it's funny, most people here are probly against death sentence but all of a sudden they just changed their mind.

This guy should get kill with multiple shotgun shots thu the head.

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08-01-2008, 09:44 AM
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I don't want my tax money to be spent on people like that. Lethal injection would be something I prefer, or even better, I wish he puts himself out of misery while in jail.
It costs the gov't more to execute a guy then it does to imprison them for life in the states....

Appeals and court time are much greater in death penalty cases.

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08-01-2008, 09:52 AM
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It costs the gov't more to execute a guy then it does to imprison them for life in the states....

Appeals and court time are much greater in death penalty cases.



Who are you and why are you here???

Chezz.... someone needs a welcome to the habs board...

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08-01-2008, 09:59 AM
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Take a look at this person's comment on the web site:

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Instead of running their cowardly butts off the bus, they could have saved that man’s life.

How pathetic.

I hope those blood-curdling screams haunt them till the day they die.
Yeah I bet he or she would have done a lot more than just ******** his or her pants, people like to say **** like that, but in general, wouldn't do **** when stuff like this happens

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08-01-2008, 10:08 AM
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The victim was Tim McLean Jr., 22, of Winnipeg. This information has been released by friends and family.
The police have yet to officially confirm his identity.

The attacker was Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton,charged with second degree murder.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ng-victim.html

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08-01-2008, 10:12 AM
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Seems pretty likely to me that the killer had some pretty severe mental illness. Doesn't appear to have known the victim, had no obvious motive to be angry at him, let alone hack him up, and the fact that they're saying there may have been cannabalism... only the most deranged, disturbed, psychopathic killers generally do that.

I'm not against the death penalty, generally speaking, but this guy is not wired right and should at least get a chance- in the most secure mental facility in existance- to see if medication can make him not a threat to society. I don't think he should be allowed to live independently ever, even if his dangerous behavior is put into check with medication, but I don't agree with executing people who committed crimes while in the throes of psychosis or delusions, which I'm guessing this guy was.

OTOH, if he has a record of violent crimes, or if he's not mentally ill but was strung out on drugs or something, then I would have no problem with the death penalty.

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08-01-2008, 10:16 AM
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The victim was Tim McLean Jr., 22, of Winnipeg. This information has been released by friends and family.
The police have yet to officially confirm his identity.

The attacker was Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton,charged with second degree murder.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ng-victim.html
How this is not First Degree murder is beyond me

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08-01-2008, 10:18 AM
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There are some sick ****ing b*stards out there, man.

This "thing" better not see natural sunlight as a free man for the rest of his life.

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How this is not First Degree murder is beyond me
Apparently it wasn't pre-meditated.

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Apparently it wasn't pre-meditated.
But he carried the knife on the bus and deliberately changed seats to sit beside his eventual victim...?

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08-01-2008, 10:22 AM
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Apparently it wasn't pre-meditated.
Thats debatable....


I think his intent was to kill...just not that specific victim

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08-01-2008, 10:28 AM
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Personally, I don't think this Li guy is ever going to go to trial for this murder. He didn't know his victim, the maliciousness of the attack, all point toward insanity. I think he'll probably be confined indefinitely in a psychiatric institute.

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From that article:

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"While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," said Caton.
I mean ***...that type of stuff belongs in a horror movie and not real life. I can't even imagine what kind of person could do something like that.

Here is a facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...2BTim%2BMcLean

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Perhaps you've heard of United Flight 93?

Those guys were sure as hell a lot more dangerous than one lunatic with a knife.
In all honesty you cant realy compare the two , everyone on the flight was doomed , they had no choice but to act , and even if they were goin to die if they could of prevented crashing into somthing. Now if EVERYONE on the bus was to get attacked and what not .. or held the driver captive then i bet the out come would of been diffrent

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