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08-06-2008, 06:52 PM
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NYR THN point predictions

This is how the THN fanatasy guide predicts the points will go-

Gomez-68
Zherdev-66
Drury-61
Naslund-51
Dawes-48
Redden-45
Fritsche-43
Dubinsky-35
Callahan-34
Roszival-33
Prucha-31
Kalinin26

I'd certainly say these predictions are certainly on the low side or at least let's prey they are.

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08-06-2008, 07:02 PM
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Yeah I'd have to agree, perhaps a little low. But it doesn't really matter.

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seems pretty on par with what i would say the totals would be, though i would be ecstatic if fritsche could get 43 pts...

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08-06-2008, 07:17 PM
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Eh, Dawes and Fritsche were estimated on the high side. I also don't think Zherdev will get 66 points, but it's possible he does.

Dubinsky and Roszival are on the low side, and Naslund may be a tad bit low as well.

Also Girardi should get more than Kalinin's supposed 26 points.

Other than that, seems about right, from an outsiders perspective.

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Did they just give points predictions, or did they break it down into goals and assists? I'm interested to see how many goals they think the team will score altogether and how that number relates to last season.

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08-06-2008, 07:44 PM
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I think the estimates are pretty realistic given where the team is on August 6, 2008.

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08-06-2008, 07:57 PM
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For a team that is touted as a run and gun, fast-paced team, those predictions show just how pathetic this team is right now.

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08-06-2008, 08:35 PM
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Dawes- 48......

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Eh, Dawes and Fritsche were estimated on the high side. I also don't think Zherdev will get 66 points, but it's possible he does.

Dubinsky and Roszival are on the low side, and Naslund may be a tad bit low as well.

Also Girardi should get more than Kalinin's supposed 26 points.

Other than that, seems about right, from an outsiders perspective.
Zherdev got 61 pts on a defensive team, on a playoff team he should get at least 65-70. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...me=nhl-rangers

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a little on the low side for gomez, drury, naslund and zherdev (just a little).

dawes looks about right, fritsche got too much love and prucha didn't get enough love...i think he can crack 50 with the right ice time.

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If Prucha gets top 6 minutes, I predict he doubles those predicted point totals.

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08-07-2008, 10:30 AM
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If Prucha gets top 6 minutes, I predict he doubles those predicted point totals.
and I think you're smoking alot of crack.... honestly if he even hits 31 pts this year I think it will be succesful for him. you overrate him so much its not even funny. Prucha over-achieved his first two years. The Prucha you saw last year is closer to the real Prucha than the player we saw the first two years.

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and I think you're smoking alot of crack.... honestly if he even hits 31 pts this year I think it will be succesful for him. you overrate him so much its not even funny. Prucha over-achieved his first two years. The Prucha you saw last year is closer to the real Prucha than the player we saw the first two years.
First off, watch your ****ing attitude.

Second off, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he can hit 62 points if he plays top 6 time all year. That includes, obviously, at least #2 powerplay time.

He had 47 points in 68 games his rookie year. To say somehow that he has nothing left to do that is just absurd.

I would love to see how he could've been a better player somehow last year buried on the 4th line with zero powerplay time. The guy can only go up from there..

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First off, watch your ****ing attitude.

Second off, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he can hit 62 points if he plays top 6 time all year. That includes, obviously, at least #2 powerplay time.

He had 47 points in 68 games his rookie year. To say somehow that he has nothing left to do that is just absurd.

I would love to see how he could've been a better player somehow last year buried on the 4th line with zero powerplay time. The guy can only go up from there..
He looks nothing like he did as a rookie. He doesn't move as well, he doesn't work the puck as well and his shot has gone from quick and accurate to something that resembles an off balance golf swing that hits more legs than Nedveds old wrister.

I would love to see him bounce back but until he plays like he used to its not going to happen with all of the ice time in the world.

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08-07-2008, 10:53 AM
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First off, watch your ****ing attitude.

Second off, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he can hit 62 points if he plays top 6 time all year. That includes, obviously, at least #2 powerplay time.

He had 47 points in 68 games his rookie year. To say somehow that he has nothing left to do that is just absurd.

I would love to see how he could've been a better player somehow last year buried on the 4th line with zero powerplay time. The guy can only go up from there..
Prucha has little to no playmaking ability. He'd have to score 35-40 goals to reach 60+ points, and thats just not happening.

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First off, watch your ****ing attitude.

Second off, I don't see how it's a stretch to say he can hit 62 points if he plays top 6 time all year. That includes, obviously, at least #2 powerplay time.

He had 47 points in 68 games his rookie year. To say somehow that he has nothing left to do that is just absurd.

I would love to see how he could've been a better player somehow last year buried on the 4th line with zero powerplay time. The guy can only go up from there..
he had 47 pts his Rookie year playing on a PP w/ JAROMIR JAGR who was probably the best player in the game that year. we do not have have anybody nearly as capable as Jagr on this team. Also he has played like utter dog **** since his injury. he is not the same player as he was. he was a pleasent surprise the first year or two but realistically that was not his game. and if Chris Drury has trouble hitting 62 points regularly what in God's name makes you think the Petr Freakin Prucha can. If pruchs had any on ice vision, or could make a pass, or stay on his skates than yea maybe. but he can't. he will be lucky to get 20 assts in one year. That means he would need 41 goals. That ain't happenin my friend.

and no he cannot only go up. his production can still go down. if he didn't score 1 point last year than that still wouldn't mean he can only go up. he could also stay the same.

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With Dubi playing with Jagr, I'd (precamp) pick him to play with Zherdev and because of such I'd Imagine Fritsche in a more defensive role on the 3rd line. Dubi should out produce Fritsche and I'm hoping that he doesn't have a sophmore slump.

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Don't forget Sjostrom's 70 pts as predicted in the "Fastest skater" thread...

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Zherdev got 61 pts on a defensive team, on a playoff team he should get at least 65-70. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...me=nhl-rangers
That's fine. The Rangers also play a defensive system, and are by no means a high scoring team.

I'm not a Zherdev fan by any means, so I'm biased, but I think 50 points is more realistic.

I've been wrong before.

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That's fine. The Rangers also play a defensive system, and are by no means a high scoring team.

I'm not a Zherdev fan by any means, so I'm biased, but I think 50 points is more realistic.

I've been wrong before.
50 points from a Zherdev coming off 61 playing with mediocre line mates is not a very realistic prediction... more like a very biased one.

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I think those point totals are completely off.

If Fritsche gets 43 points..........

Dubinsky, 35? - No, sorry.

Gomez and Zherdev in the 60's? 70's at least.

Too high points for Drury by a tad, too high for Callahan.

That's just a couple..

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That's fine. The Rangers also play a defensive system, and are by no means a high scoring team.

I'm not a Zherdev fan by any means, so I'm biased, but I think 50 points is more realistic.

I've been wrong before.
The Rangers were a defensive team. They've already said they plan on playing much more uptempo and much more offensive.

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I'd love to know how they're coming to these numbers when we don't even know what the lines are going to look like.

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I'd love to know how they're coming to these numbers when we don't even know what the lines are going to look like.
That whatever emoticon is certainly wrong......that resembles no kind of 'whatever' I've ever emoted....

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