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08-07-2008, 07:04 PM
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So our third line is??

K im confused about our third line. I mean we have Sergei Kostityn, Lapierre, and?

Is our third line more of a scoring line than a checking line

and if we get Sundin, then what?


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08-07-2008, 07:06 PM
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And why can't we have 3 scoring line?

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08-07-2008, 07:08 PM
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Lapierre with Sergei? Where'd you get that idea? at the toilet store?

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08-07-2008, 07:08 PM
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Sergei Lapierre and Laraque

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08-07-2008, 07:12 PM
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My lines

Higgins Pleks Kovalev
Tanguay Koivu Andrei
Latendresse Lapierre Sergei
Kostopolous Chipchura Laraque

If we sign sundin, he goes in Koivu's spot.
Koivu replaces Lappy and Lappy replaces Kostopolous or Laraque.

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08-07-2008, 07:20 PM
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My lines...

Andrei - Pleks - Kovalev
Tanguay - Koivu - Higgins
Sergei - Lapierre - Latendresse
Kosto - Bégin - Laraque

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08-07-2008, 07:24 PM
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the ak - plecks - kovi wont change
tanguay is a lock with koivu

the third line is a combo of LAPIERRE - CHIPS - SK - LATS - HIGGINS

I say its gonna be LATS - CHIPS - SK

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08-07-2008, 07:31 PM
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The **** is Lapierre centering the third line for?

Chipchura will center the third line with either Lats and S. Kosts.. or Higgins and S. Kosts.

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08-07-2008, 07:37 PM
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Lapierre with Sergei? Where'd you get that idea? at the toilet store?
i'll admit it, that caught me off guard and i laughed ;0

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08-07-2008, 07:40 PM
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Without Sundin:

Plek-A.Kost-Kovy
Koivu-Tanguay-Lats
Chipchura-Higgins-S.Kost
Lapierre-Kosto-Laraque/Begin

Markov-Komi
Hamr-O'Byrne
Gorges-Bouillon
Dandenault

Price/Halak

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The **** is Lapierre centering the third line for?

Chipchura will center the third line with either Lats and S. Kosts.. or Higgins and S. Kosts.
Chips is better than Lappierre i agree.. .but if Latendresse is on the third line, I don't want Chips there too... the line is too slow with both of them..

If you want to go

Akost - Pleks - Kovy
Tanguay - Koivu - Lats
Higgins - Chips - Sergei.

I'm okay like that too...

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Chips is better than Lappierre i agree.. .but if Latendresse is on the third line, I don't want Chips there too... the line is too slow with both of them..

If you want to go

Akost - Pleks - Kovy
Tanguay - Koivu - Lats
Higgins - Chips - Sergei.

I'm okay like that too...
I thought that Chipchura and Latendresse had some nice chemistry together... put a fast guy like Higgins or Sergei on the other side and that would be a pretty solid third line.

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Chips is better than Lappierre i agree.. .but if Latendresse is on the third line, I don't want Chips there too... the line is too slow with both of them..

If you want to go

Akost - Pleks - Kovy
Tanguay - Koivu - Lats
Higgins - Chips - Sergei.

I'm okay like that too...
I'm going with..

Tanguay-Plekanec-Kovalev
Lats/S. Kost - Koivu - A. Kost
Higgins - Chipchura - S.Kost/Lats
Laraque-Lapierre-Kostopolous.

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08-07-2008, 07:45 PM
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IMHO Lapierre has no place on a third line. He just doesn't have the hockey acumen to be anything more than a fourth liner on a contender.

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I really don't see a "third line" as per say.

I see three offensive lines that can be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd line on any given night.

I also see Gainey & Carbo building a team where any of the top 9, 10 or 11 forwards can rolled from one line to the next.

I expect at any given time throughout a game we wilk see Andi Kostitsyn play on lines with both Kovalev & Plekanec, then on another shift be out with Sergei & c Chipchura. We could very well see Tanguay bouncing back & forth between the Plekanec line & the Koivu during games.


I believe this team is being for versatility thus keeping the opponents from shutting down anyone group of three players during any given game.

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IMHO Lapierre has no place on a third line. He just doesn't have the hockey acumen to be anything more than a fourth liner on a contender.
Thats why I want us to do something....

as I said in the lang thread... my preferences in order of guys who may be available (free agents and guys on teams over the cap)

1) Sundin
2) Sakic
3) Yashin
4) Kozlov
5) Lang

Bring in an offensive centre to give us three guys.... its about being an upgrade on Chips/Lappy... doesn't have to be an upgrade on Pleks and Koivu.

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IMHO Lapierre has no place on a third line. He just doesn't have the hockey acumen to be anything more than a fourth liner on a contender.

Now I disagree.

I think Lapierre would excel playing pivot between two offensive minded wingers like say the Kostitsyn brothers. Lapper could go to the front of the net & cause some havoc, while the other two kids weaved their magic with the puck. His speed would help a bonus on a line like that as well, more so than a pivot like Chipper.

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Thats why I want us to do something....

as I said in the lang thread... my preferences in order of guys who may be available (free agents and guys on teams over the cap)

1) Sundin
2) Sakic
3) Yashin
4) Kozlov
5) Lang

Bring in an offensive centre to give us three guys.... its about being an upgrade on Chips/Lappy... doesn't have to be an upgrade on Pleks and Koivu.
-I'm hoping for Sundin, but he may just be that big of an idiot.
-Sakic is more black and white, he's won his cups. It's Colorado or retirement.
- Yashin, I'd do a one year deal, heavily loaded with contract bonuses. If he stinks it up, send him back to Russia. Gillette should be the only one with a problem.
- Kozlov? Which one? Atlanta one or Washington one? Atlanta one? Sure. Washington one? No thanks.
- Lang? He costs assetts, so a no from me.

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Now I disagree.

I think Lapierre would excel playing pivot between two offensive minded wingers like say the Kostitsyn brothers. Lapper could go to the front of the net & cause some havoc, while the other two kids weaved their magic with the puck. His speed would help a bonus on a line like that as well, more so than a pivot like Chipper.
I don't think so. Lapierre would grab the puck, go in and throw it on net, resulting in a whistle. That would severely limit the type of game the Kost brothers play.


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I'd go with

A Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kovalev
Tanguay-Koivu-S Kostitsyn
Higgins-Chipchura-Latendresse
Kostopoulos-Lapierre-Laraque

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I don't think so. Lapierre would grab the puck, go in and throw it on net, resulting in a whistle. That would severely limit the type of game the Kost brothers play.
Nicely summing of roughly half of Lapierre's shifts last year.

If Lapierre is regular centre on a line above the 4th this season I'll puke.

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Lapierre was in his 2nd year ffs, and may I remind most of you- he was one of the better scorers in Hamilton.

"doesn't belong here", "can't do this"...get the hell outta here...give the kid some time to develop!*grabs crotch*
(I wonder if it shows that I've just finished another Sopranos marathon)


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-I'm hoping for Sundin, but he may just be that big of an idiot.
-Sakic is more black and white, he's won his cups. It's Colorado or retirement.
- Yashin, I'd do a one year deal, heavily loaded with contract bonuses. If he stinks it up, send him back to Russia. Gillette should be the only one with a problem.
- Kozlov? Which one? Atlanta one or Washington one? Atlanta one? Sure. Washington one? No thanks.
- Lang? He costs assetts, so a no from me.
Kozlov, Washington one, they are over the cap and have a surplus of centres...

1 year, 2.5 million left... Has Size and a RH shot...
A third line of Lats - Kozlov - Sergei works for me.

Lang would come cheap... 1 year 4million left... Hawks need to move one of Lang, Havlat or Khabby to get under the cap.

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Lapierre was in his 2nd year ffs, and may I remind most of you- he was one of the better scorers in Hamilton.

"doesn't belong here", "can't do this"...get the hell outta here...give the kid some time to develop!*grabs crotch*
(I wonder if it shows that I've just finished another Sopranos marathon)


Edit: and change the ****in title ova here!
I like Lappy. I just don't think he has a place anywhere near the first three lines on a top tier team. 4th line? For sure. Injury or deadbeat fill-in? Yes. PK, heck yeah.

He was great in Hamilton because he could use his speed to beat players. Now the next level of play seems to have exposed a weakness in his ability to think the game at the faster pace. Maybe he'll adapt, but I just have this feeling he's nearing his upside. Not bad, but maybe not a top nine player on a contender.

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the ak - plecks - kovi wont change
tanguay is a lock with koivu

the third line is a combo of LAPIERRE - CHIPS - SK - LATS - HIGGINS

I say its gonna be LATS - CHIPS - SK
Doesn't Koivu need one more wing?

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A.Kost-Pleks-Kovy
Tanguay-Koivu-S.Kost
Higgins-Lapierre-Latendresse

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing this, Lats will get a chance to be playmaker with two guys who like to shoot. All three are great along the boards and the other two have the wheels to deal with turnovers. Actually, I take it back.. these guys will own the boards.

Reasoning: Carbo is a fan of two things, keeping his lines together, and always having a vet he can trust on each line. That's why the first line will stay like it was last year, Tanguay will be Koivu's reward for playing with rookies and scraps for the last decade, and Higgins is just about ready to be responsible for his own line (last year he was a 'young vet', this year there going to start expecting him to lead).

re: Chipchura/Lapierre. Chip's not going to play on the third line. He could end up there if Lapierre fails miserably, but expect him to get enough time for us to really see if he can play an offensive role or not. Carbo's going to throw Chipchura between Begin and Kostopoulos/Laraque and bring him along slowly. If he excels in a defensive role that line might end up checking some of the slower top lines, but I doubt he'll get a chance to show off his offensive talents until next year at the earliest.

re: A.Kost. I don't see him moving to RW unless the Habs don't intend to resign Kovalev in which case they could give Andrei this year to prep him to replace Kovy next year.

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